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Gardai find 'cloned' car but no charges brought?

  • 18-07-2018 4:42pm
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    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,065 ✭✭✭


    LINKY

    This is a bizarre case. Where did the car come from? Surely VW have records of VINs and where the car was shipped to.

    He obviously had no insurance on a car that wasn't registered, yet no mention of that.

    Isn't having reg plates on a car that they don't belong to breaking the law? No mention of that.


    This all sounds shady AF.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,117 ✭✭✭✭Seve OB


    Weird


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,140 ✭✭✭James Bond Junior


    GUBU


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 18,299 ✭✭✭✭The Backwards Man


    One was probably SDI and the other TDI


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 84,733 ✭✭✭✭Atlantic Dawn
    M


    I suppose technically both cars would be insured once they both had same plate on that matched that of the cert of insurance.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,919 ✭✭✭Odelay


    The area around Buncrana seems to be some sort of Bermuda Triangle for motoring oddities.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,065 ✭✭✭Pique


    I suppose technically both cars would be insured once they both had same plate on that matched that of the cert of insurance.


    Not if one of them wasn't registered I would've thought. At least one of them is on fake plates.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 720 ✭✭✭Pops_20


    No mention in the article of the Gardai following up on the car that "doesn't exist". Do they just not care and leave it at that? Maybe ask the guy himself?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 51,360 ✭✭✭✭bazz26


    Those Donegal folks always up to no good.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,060 ✭✭✭Kenny Logins


    Pops_20 wrote: »
    No mention in the article of the Gardai following up on the car that "doesn't exist". Do they just not care and leave it at that? Maybe ask the guy himself?

    Separate case maybe?

    Does the DVLA NI share a database with the DVLA UK?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,731 ✭✭✭✭osarusan


    Crafty bastard.

    Get two cars of the same make, clone the reg plates, then insure and tax one but not the other.

    If the police stop you for not having up-to-date nct, tax or insurance displayed (just leave the old ones from the other car in the clone), you turn up at the police station a few days later with valid certs for the car with that registration number.


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  • Registered Users, Subscribers, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,631 ✭✭✭✭antodeco


    I'm trying to figure out what the benefit to him was, having both? I assume it was someone else could drive the other car at the same time? Big risk just to save money on separate insurance and tax. Unless he was planning on selling one, or one was stolen and then plates changed.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,072 ✭✭✭sunnysoutheast


    antodeco wrote: »
    I'm trying to figure out what the benefit to him was, having both? I assume it was someone else could drive the other car at the same time? Big risk just to save money on separate insurance and tax. Unless he was planning on selling one, or one was stolen and then plates changed.

    Yeah I was wondering.

    Either have two identical cars to drive concurrently or tax and insure a 1.6 and put false plates on a gti or something.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,117 ✭✭✭✭Seve OB


    I suppose technically both cars would be insured once they both had same plate on that matched that of the cert of insurance.

    Well technically one of the cars had false plates on it


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 59 ✭✭pea be


    Rumour has it that a quarry owner near here had a similar setup many years ago with 3 lorries on the same number plate, but only one tax, psv and insurance. Each driver had a given road they had to take at the crossroads outside the quarry so more than one lorry would not be in the same direction at the same time.

    I heard this at a wake years ago.... so it must be true!!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 907 ✭✭✭Under His Eye


    Separate case maybe?

    Does the DVLA NI share a database with the DVLA UK?
    They are all the one these days, DVNI was absorbed into the DVLA.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,267 ✭✭✭mikeecho


    perhaps, the other car that was parked up on private property, had the false plates.

    it wasn't being used in a public place (that could be proven)
    so technically no offence was disclosed.

    there's nothing illegal about putting false plates on a car on private property.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,065 ✭✭✭Pique


    mikeecho wrote: »
    perhaps, the other car that was parked up on private property,  had the false plates.

    it wasn't being used in a public place (that could be proven)
    so technically no offence was disclosed.

    there's nothing illegal about putting false plates on a car on private property.
    But it seems the opposite was the case.
    The garda told the court that he had noted the chassis number of the vehicle that Craig had been driving and there was no record of it anywhere, including in the North.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,688 ✭✭✭✭mickdw


    No penalty for scumbags in this country.
    As the article said, he was driving the dodgy one so no debate but that it was fraudulent.
    Car should be crushed, driver reported to his insurance company and given all points and fines associated with driving without tax insurance or test.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,823 ✭✭✭Markcheese


    I hope they did take the illegal car off him... Seems like he got off very lightly...

    Slava ukraini 🇺🇦



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,162 ✭✭✭jelutong


    Two cars taxed and insured for the price of one. It was a well known scam in the haulage business years ago. One truck in Ireland another one the Continent for example.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,235 ✭✭✭✭Cee-Jay-Cee


    Markcheese wrote: »
    I hope they did take the illegal car off him... Seems like he got off very lightly...

    Most likely the car was seized and he would have to prove ownership before he could get it back and as the car was not to be found on any database then him proving its his would be difficult and the car would ultimately be crushed/destroyed after a certain period of time.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,795 ✭✭✭Isambard


    years ago my employer had two vans with the same reg, genuine error somewhere. We used to load right by the Gard Barracks in McCurtain St Cork and one morning a Gard queried it. Someone told him they were twins and he nodded and walked off.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,042 ✭✭✭kaizersoze


    Donegal....nuff said.


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