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Cinema False Advertising

  • 17-07-2018 9:27pm
    #1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,815 ✭✭✭SimonTemplar


    I was in a cinema recently and their ad for their loyalty card claimed the user could watch over 500 movies a year. This is clearly nonsense. That would be over 9 new movies a week. The cinema branch in question has 9 screens (average for their chain) so to live up to their claim, every week every screen would have to have a new movie and therefore no movie could play for more than one week. All of that is nonsense.

    I reckon about 200 - 220 new movies are released in Ireland each year. I've no idea where they got that 500 figure from and how they could justify it.

    If you include small independent / foreign / Bollywood movies that may only get a week in the cinema before quickly moving to home entertainment, over 500 movies are released. The BFI said that 698 movies were released in 2013. But that doesn't mean those 500+ movies would be available to the loyalty card holders of that cinema. As mentioned above, the numbers don't allow for that. And I reckon only a portion of those 698 movies were screened in Ireland.

    So, would this be grounds for false advertising? I don't go to the cinema often enough to justify being a member of that loyalty card so I don't have one, and definitely have no interest in pursuing any legal challenges, but it is something that struck me when I saw the ad.


Comments

  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,812 ✭✭✭Addle


    Seriously...
    Do they advertise that you can watch 500 NEW movies a year?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,806 ✭✭✭GerardKeating


    I was in a cinema recently and their ad for their loyalty card claimed the user could watch over 500 movies a year. .

    Did it say 500 Different movies, some dedicated fans might do a new Star wars movie a few times during the openinng week, even twice on the opening day.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,229 ✭✭✭LeinsterDub


    Do you even have said loyalty card?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,088 ✭✭✭OU812


    You could probably quite easily watch over 500 movies a year.

    They don’t have to be a different one every time. It’s not up to them how many times you want to watch the latest cgifest, you could easily watch the same movie 21 times a week if you wanted. Change that movie once a month, you’ve seen 12 new movies & watched over 1,000 movies in a year


  • Posts: 0 CMod ✭✭✭✭ Annie Clean Racer


    I've no idea where they got that 500 figure from and how they could justify it.

    a movie every day and a few extra on weekends


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,815 ✭✭✭SimonTemplar


    If you see one movie 10 times, you've still only seen one movie, but I get the argument noted above.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 78,580 ✭✭✭✭Victor


    Addle wrote: »
    Seriously...
    Do they advertise that you can watch 500 NEW movies a week?
    OP says year, not week.
    If you see one movie 10 times, you've still only seen one movie, but I get the argument noted above.
    I concur.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,812 ✭✭✭Addle


    Victor wrote: »
    OP says year, not week.

    Corrected.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,102 ✭✭✭✭Del2005


    If you see one movie 10 times, you've still only seen one movie, but I get the argument noted above.

    But you've watched it 10 times and that's what the cinema is advertising in the OP.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,699 ✭✭✭The Pheasant2


    Mere advertising puffery would be my defence.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,815 ✭✭✭SimonTemplar


    Del2005 wrote: »
    But you've watched it 10 times and that's what the cinema is advertising in the OP.

    This is the text from the ad (I've removed the company's name)
    Imagine you can see all the films you want as often as you like. Well now you can when you join XXXX. That's over 500 pulse-racing, rib-tickling, mind-bending movies a year.

    I suppose the question is would it be reasonable for a person to expect to see 500 different movies a year or would they be required to see the same movie multiple times to reach the 500 figure.

    Would it be like iTunes releasing a subscription entitling the user to watch 500 movies a year but not disclosing 1/2 of them can only be repeat viewings? As I said in my OP, it is impossible to watch 500 movies in the cinema a year unless a lot are repeat viewings.

    I still think that figure is bizarre. If it is based on multiple viewings, why stop at 500. Why not 1000.

    Anyway, it doesn't really matter. Just my random thoughts for the evening.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,230 ✭✭✭jaxxx


    Hmm. Where words fail, pictures shall answer the call:

    Funny-Facepalms-Statements-001.jpg


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,102 ✭✭✭✭Del2005


    This is the text from the ad (I've removed the company's name)



    I suppose the question is would it be reasonable for a person to expect to see 500 different movies a year or would they be required to see the same movie multiple times to reach the 500 figure.

    Would it be like iTunes releasing a subscription entitling the user to watch 500 movies a year but not disclosing 1/2 of them can only be repeat viewings? As I said in my OP, it is impossible to watch 500 movies in the cinema a year unless a lot are repeat viewings.

    I still think that figure is bizarre. If it is based on multiple viewings, why stop at 500. Why not 1000.

    Anyway, it doesn't really matter. Just my random thoughts for the evening.

    If you have no job or dependants you could watch 500 movies in a year.

    The ad is like when an insurance company says quotes from €xxx but the criteria are nearly impossible to match or your Internet provider saying up xMb.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,815 ✭✭✭SimonTemplar


    jaxxx wrote: »
    Hmm. Where words fail, pictures shall answer the call:

    Funny-Facepalms-Statements-001.jpg

    Many thanks for your cogent legal argument. :rolleyes:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,230 ✭✭✭jaxxx


    Many thanks for your cogent legal argument. :rolleyes:


    Even Judge Judy would be speechless, c'mon like.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,006 ✭✭✭✭callaway92


    One of the saddest threads I’ve ever seen created on this site.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,815 ✭✭✭SimonTemplar


    callaway92 wrote: »
    One of the saddest threads I’ve ever seen created on this site.

    I came here with a genuine question that interested me. You may disagree with me or believe my question lacks merit but no need to be insulting.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,230 ✭✭✭jaxxx


    callaway92 wrote: »
    One of the saddest threads I’ve ever seen created on this site.


    There's another goodie in AH with someone claiming that insurance is gambling. Something in the air tonight me thinks.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,393 ✭✭✭Grassey


    52 weeks in a year, 5 movies every Monday - Friday (1 a day over the working week) , 5 movies over weekend gives 520 movies... Bizarre figure now rendered mundane.

    For what it's worth, I wouldn't have any reasonable expectation that a cinema would be able to show 500+ new movies a year... Surely that's the realm of Netflix.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,815 ✭✭✭SimonTemplar


    My argument as stated above clearly isn't concerning whether it is possible to see 500+ movies a year. Of course it is. It is possible to see double that figure if a person has the time and inclination.

    My initial question (and again in post 12) concerns whether it is reasonable for a person to infer from the ad that they can watch 500 different movies.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,575 ✭✭✭Indricotherium


    This is the text from the ad (I've removed the company's name)



    I suppose the question is would it be reasonable for a person to expect to see 500 different movies a year or would they be required to see the same movie multiple times to reach the 500 figure.

    Would it be like iTunes releasing a subscription entitling the user to watch 500 movies a year but not disclosing 1/2 of them can only be repeat viewings? As I said in my OP, it is impossible to watch 500 movies in the cinema a year unless a lot are repeat viewings.

    I still think that figure is bizarre. If it is based on multiple viewings, why stop at 500. Why not 1000.

    Anyway, it doesn't really matter. Just my random thoughts for the evening.

    Movies are delivered to cinemas these days on hard drives!

    Technically there is no "film" involved at all. Really you can watch no "film"!!!!!

    You have them by the nuts there twice over!!!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,627 ✭✭✭tedpan


    Can't stand the cinema, haven't been in years. I don't understand why you'd want to sit in a dirty chair, sticky floor and watch a movie in a room full of people you don't know..


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