Bianchi Via Nirone

Sal Butamol · 16-07-2018 10:14pm #1

So I am doing the whole B2W thing and I'm a bit torn regarding my options.

I currently have a Rose Pro SL2000 105 and I love it.

I'd like to stay with an aluminium bike and at least 105 groupset.

My local bike shop stocks Bianchi and Cannondale (amongst others)

The guy was pitching a CAAD12 105 disc for 1680euro but I also have been looking at the Bianchi Via Nirone.

It is available in 105 or Xenon groupset. Personally I think the Bianchi is gorgeous albeit a bit heavy. However it is only 1399euro.

Am I mental in thinking of going for the Bianchi over the CAAD12?

I'm more of a club spin, sportive kind of guy and prefer climbing over sprinting. I was thinking I could upgrade the wheels on the Bianchi and a few other bits over the next year.

Haven't really seen anything else out there that grabs my eye to be honest although another shop nearby has a Ridley Fenix Carbon 105 that did look amazing...despite my reluctance for carbon and disc brakes.

The Bianchi is sexy though...:cool:

Sal Butamol · 16-07-2018 11:35pm

Anyone?

BrianHenryIE · 17-07-2018 3:55am

Get the Bianchi. I wanted a Bianchi for years, got one last year (2017 Impulso 105 disc) and am very happy with it. You will be too.

lizzylad84 · 17-07-2018 7:35am

I have a bianchi impulso. Aluminum frame. Campagnolo veloce group set. Have it 4 years now and it's a fantastic bike. Highly recommend. Several clubmate ride buanchis (carbon and aluminum) and there all happy with them. Go for it

Dermot Illogical · 17-07-2018 10:17am

The Bianchi Via Nirone is a beautiful looking bike alright. I have one and am very happy with it.

ratracer · 17-07-2018 10:24am

You like the look of the Bianchi....
You don’t want disk brakes...
Of course the shop is going to try flog you the higher price bike! I’d say your mind is already made up.

What’s the weight difference of the two? And is that a key factor for you? When it comes to weight of a bike/components I always come back this —— the second bottle on your frame (700ml) weighs >700gms. Leave it off if your that concerned about it!!

Go with the bike that will make you happy, then enjoy pedalling it!!

Sal Butamol · 17-07-2018 12:03pm

The Bianchi is heavier but I intend to stick new wheels on it anyway (most of the weight are the wheels)

To be honest I find the CAAD12 to be fugly as sin, despite being a great bike.

I guess I just wanted to make sure I wasn't doing anything crazy by going for the Bianchi

Now I have to decide between Shimano 105 and Xenon

I know Shimano is almost sacrilege on a Bianchi but I like the idea of being able to swap wheels with my Rose which is also 105

joey100 · 17-07-2018 12:22pm

If your rose is 11 speed and the Bianchi is too you should be able to swap no bother, differences in the chain widths is tiny and no real issues running a campy cassette on Shimano anymore, I use an 11 speed campy disc with my TT bike that has Shimano Ultegra 11 speed and no issues.

Sal Butamol · 17-07-2018 12:27pm

Sweet

joey100 · 17-07-2018 1:07pm

https://www.velonews.com/2013/09/bikes-and-tech/drivetrain-compatibility-hidden-in-plain-sight_303199

Lennard Zinn says so anyway, and it's worked well for me.

fat bloke · 17-07-2018 1:31pm

As long as the bianchi is celeste...

Dermot Illogical · 18-07-2018 12:26am

fat bloke wrote: »

As long as the bianchi is celeste...

Wooooooooah! Hang on a second!

Sal Butamol · 18-07-2018 7:41am

It's in Celeste don't worry

Sal Butamol · 18-07-2018 9:42pm

Plastik · 18-07-2018 10:05pm

Beauty is in the eye of the beholder and all that, but I personally can't see how the CAAD12 can be considered fugly next to either of those Bianchi. But it's your money and you buy with your eyes as much as anything else. The geometry of both bikes is also very different with the Caad being much longer and lower across all the sizes - more aggressive position. That's something to take into account much more than the colour scheme.

Sal Butamol · 18-07-2018 10:12pm

This just doesn't really do it for me

It reminds me of the old raleigh I had as a kid. I know it is a fantastic bike but...meh

Sal Butamol · 19-07-2018 7:35am

Dermot Illogical wrote: »

Wooooooooah! Hang on a second!

That's actually growing on me...

fat bloke · 19-07-2018 7:41am

Sal Butamol wrote: »

That's actually growing on me...

Yeah, it is nice in fairness

. I certainly don't like it in the red and black though.

To throw the spanner back m the works, I'd get a caad12 non disc if it was me. All the magazines and reviewers and riders can't be bullsh1tting and they've been lauding the caad12 for three years straight now

joey100 · 19-07-2018 8:03am

All cannondale bikes look a lot better in person than in their photo's too, but go with which ever one you prefer, more likely to use it then!

Cyclewizard · 19-07-2018 11:14am

I have a couple of Bianchis (old patani replica and a singlespeed) and like them but have ridden a via nirone and wasn't too impressed to be honest, felt heavy and dull. There's no question the caad 12 is the much better bike of the two but if you don't like the look of it you'll never be completely happy with it though. Would you consider looking into any other models?

irishrover99 · 19-07-2018 11:50am

If you want a nice Italian bike that's as heavy as old boots, get the Bianchi.
If you want the best Alu bike ever made and something that would piss all over most carbon bikes up to 2000 Euro or more, get the Caad 12.

As Joey100 said, they look much better in person.
I've mine a few months now, and i've yet to notice any flex out of the frame.
I switched the wheels from the Aksiums to Zonda's and i'm very happy with it.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nhV0DjteqII

Sal Butamol · 19-07-2018 2:19pm

Cyclewizard wrote: »

I have a couple of Bianchis (old patani replica and a singlespeed) and like them but have ridden a via nirone and wasn't too impressed to be honest, felt heavy and dull. There's no question the caad 12 is the much better bike of the two but if you don't like the look of it you'll never be completely happy with it though. Would you consider looking into any other models?

Actually I would, what with 2019 bikes arriving soon.

In Limerick so looking at what's on offer in The Hub and Raw Cycles

tuxy · 19-07-2018 3:59pm

irishrover99 wrote: »

If you want a nice Italian bike that's as heavy as old boots, get the Bianchi.
If you want the best Alu bike ever made and something that would piss all over most carbon bikes up to 2000 Euro or more, get the Caad 12.

As Joey100 said, they look much better in person.
I've mine a few months now, and i've yet to notice any flex out of the frame.
I switched the wheels from the Aksiums to Zonda's and i'm very happy with it.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nhV0DjteqII

Have they fixed the issues so many people have with bb30?

Sal Butamol · 19-07-2018 5:21pm

https://www.aquabluesport.com/pinarello-fp-due-105-road-bike

Opinions?

sin_26 · 19-07-2018 7:04pm

tuxy wrote: »

Have they fixed the issues so many people have with bb30?

At least you can mount adaptor if unlucky but dull riding bike cannot be fixed easily. I have bikes where I expect performance as prio and other bikes where performance is second to visuals but I would never go by paint scheme only otherwise I would own some ekhem... piece of metal tho.

magicbastarder · 19-07-2018 7:56pm

every time i see this thread title, it reads as someone asking for directions.

07Lapierre · 19-07-2018 8:43pm

fat bloke wrote: »

As long as the bianchi is celeste...

No..there's are some really nice Bianchi's out there: https://www.facebook.com/Humphries-Cycles-450812244967380/?ref=br_rs

Sal Butamol · 26-07-2018 12:07pm

So...I took another look at a Ridley Fenix Carbon 105 yesterday and really liked it. Reduced from 1799 to 1400.

Carbon wasn't my first choice but it's a beautiful bike

c.p.w.g.w · 30-07-2018 11:23pm

Sal Butamol wrote: »

So...I took another look at a Ridley Fenix Carbon 105 yesterday and really liked it. Reduced from 1799 to 1400.

Carbon wasn't my first choice but it's a beautiful bike

Where did you see reduced? Online or instore around Limerick?

irishrover99 · 31-07-2018 1:23pm

magicbastarder wrote: »

every time i see this thread title, it reads as someone asking for directions.

Just in case you are wondering

https://www.google.ie/maps/dir/Bianchi+Team%26+Il+mondo+di+lollo,+Via+Sarzanese+Nord,+1445,+55054+Massarosa+LU,+Italy/Nirone,+43025+Province+of+Parma,+Italy/@44.1346407,9.8396075,10z/data=!3m1!4b1!4m14!4m13!1m5!1m1!1s0x12d59e94d31cc205:0x39902ce3eed55ac!2m2!1d10.327463!2d43.877682!1m5!1m1!1s0x12d539e083e4af39:0xef086b0be908067b!2m2!1d10.1923887!2d44.392269!3e0

Sal Butamol · 31-07-2018 1:40pm

c.p.w.g.w wrote: »

Where did you see reduced? Online or instore around Limerick?

Raw Cycles - they are doing deals on Ridley at the moment

c.p.w.g.w · 31-07-2018 1:46pm

Sal Butamol wrote: »

Raw Cycles - they are doing deals on Ridley at the moment

Cheers, do any of the shops in Limerick do much in the way of offers e.g end of year, last year models reduced.
Aside from the current Ridley offer in raw

Is there much room for haggling or not.

Last bought a bike 6 years ago second hand and was able to do a bit of haggling, but that shop has since shut after a long time trading

Sal Butamol · 31-07-2018 2:46pm

c.p.w.g.w wrote: »

Cheers, do any of the shops in Limerick do much in the way of offers e.g end of year, last year models reduced.
Aside from the current Ridley offer in raw

Is there much room for haggling or not.

Last bought a bike 6 years ago second hand and was able to do a bit of haggling, but that shop has since shut after a long time trading

Only getting back into it myself man so I honestly don't know.

If you know your fit on a bike I'd go for Rosebikes.com or Canyon. Hands down every time.

Way more bike for your money. I have a Rose myself it's pure class.

Only went for the Ridley because I'm doing bike to work scheme. Otherwise I'd have gone online

Bianchi Via Nirone

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