New discovery near Newgrange

realdanbreen

Apparently the prolonged heatwave has led to the discovery of a new archaeological site near Newgrange. Is this true?

thebiglad

Reported in papers today - with photos so yes...

https://www.independent.ie/irish-news/massive-unknown-henge-at-newgrange-discovered-thanks-to-drought-and-drone-37108820.html

tom1ie

realdanbreen wrote: »

Apparently the prolonged heatwave has led to the discovery of a new archaeological site near Newgrange. Is this true?

Apparently moisture was held in the foundations of the archeological site which was buried underground. When the surrounding earth had all the moisture sucked up by the sun, and the grass wilted, this revealed an outline of the site as the grass directly above the site was greener. It was discovered via drone.
Pretty cool really.

Igotadose

We need the Time Team!

thebiglad

Not just Ireland - https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-wales-44806069

Good times ahead for Archaeologists

Great discovery. Unless the chamber contains an ancient, dormant monster or virus of course.

Good reminder too that not all people with drones are cúnts.

cml387

Hmmm. Indo photo looks suspiciously detailed. Photoshop anyone?

tom1ie

Deleted User wrote: »

Great discovery. Unless the chamber contains an ancient, dormant monster or virus of course.

Good reminder too that not all people with drones are cúnts.

Lol on both points.

opti76

its the shamrogues ...

Hitman3000

Deleted User wrote:

Good reminder too that not all people with drones are cúnts.

Just 99% of them.

duffysfarm

so does it look like there is an actual structure buried underground or is it just foundations of something? (i know they wont actually know until they dig it up but just wondering what they think if there actually is a structure)

tom1ie

duffysfarm wrote: »

so does it look like there is an actual structure buried underground or is it just foundations of something? (i know they wont actually know until they dig it up but just wondering what they think if there actually is a structure)

Not sure I think it just said the outline of a structure. That might just be ruined foundations. As you say they won’t know until it’s dug up I suppose.

Ipso

I wonder has anyone been looking near Rathcroghan, that was supposed to be a very important site (some think as important as Tara).

topper75

A very interesting period and a very frustrating one.

Life was utterly different for these people and that makes it interesting.

Getting reasons behind things or finding out detail on their lives makes it frustrating.

We only get guessing... religious ritual, sacrifice, tribal meeting spot, agri-calendar, cemetery, excoriation site, palace compound, royal inauguration site, could even be crop storage ... no certainty though.

Igotadose

topper75 wrote: »

A very interesting period and a very frustrating one.

Life was utterly different for these people and that makes it interesting.

Getting reasons behind things or finding out detail on their lives makes it frustrating.

We only get guessing... religious ritual, sacrifice, tribal meeting spot, agri-calendar, cemetery, excoriation site, palace compound, royal inauguration site, could even be crop storage ... no certainty though.

Without excavating and archaeology, we won't ever know anything of course. There's so much archaeology all over Ireland just waiting to be excavated. Perhaps someday the country will be able to afford to do it justice, it's expensive and time consuming to do

shakeitoff

Always found this period of history far more interesting than later stuff, always found later history, especially Irish history very bland if I'm honest. The mystery of their lives and how different it was makes it all the more fascinating. Seemed I was in the minority though. Personally, for my own arbitrary reasons I use the famine as the end of history in Ireland. IMO, the world of the late 1800's while so different to ours now, doesn't have the same mystery of the time before this, which makes sense as we have way more recorded history, photographic evidence etc. of this time period.

Igotadose

shakeitoff wrote: »

Always found this period of history far more interesting than later stuff, always found later history, especially Irish history very bland if I'm honest. The mystery of their lives and how different it was makes it all the more fascinating. Seemed I was in the minority though. Personally, for my own arbitrary reasons I use the famine as the end of history in Ireland. IMO, the world of the late 1800's while so different to ours now, doesn't have the same mystery of the time before this, which makes sense as we have way more recorded history, photographic evidence etc. of this time period.

History's much less interesting after the fall of Rome. :P

Ipso

shakeitoff wrote: »

Always found this period of history far more interesting than later stuff, always found later history, especially Irish history very bland if I'm honest. The mystery of their lives and how different it was makes it all the more fascinating. Seemed I was in the minority though. Personally, for my own arbitrary reasons I use the famine as the end of history in Ireland. IMO, the world of the late 1800's while so different to ours now, doesn't have the same mystery of the time before this, which makes sense as we have way more recorded history, photographic evidence etc. of this time period.

With important places like Newgrange, they probably covered different eras and cultures with later ones injecting themselves into prior mythology to make taking over easier.

I think Gaelic era Ireland makes for fascinating history, so much going on. I'd love to see Bernard Cornwell or someone like him do a fictionalized account like The Last Kingdom.

Donald Trump

Igotadose wrote: »

History's much less interesting after the fall of Rome. :P

If it was that interesting, the how come we don't see evidence of their amazing lives on their instagram posts then?


Duhhhhhhhh?

Malayalam

Igotadose wrote: »

Without excavating and archaeology, we won't ever know anything of course. There's so much archaeology all over Ireland just waiting to be excavated. Perhaps someday the country will be able to afford to do it justice, it's expensive and time consuming to do

And perhaps some day they will pay the archaeological site workers a proper wage to do their work. At the moment it's a vocation.
Really exciting photos about this new site.

the_pen_turner

you would have assumed that all the land around there would have been heavily scanned with geo fis or ground radar (what ever it was called that they used on time team) .

its amazing that it can be that close by and not known about

Igotadose

the_pen_turner wrote: »

you would have assumed that all the land around there would have been heavily scanned with geo fis or ground radar (what ever it was called that they used on time team) .

its amazing that it can be that close by and not known about

Geophys is what Time Team's doing. It includes magnetometry, resisitivity as well as ground radar. They occasionally use metal detectors, too.

Herself helped out with a resistivity investigation of an old site here in West Kerry this summer. They used equipment just like what you see on Time Team. It was a team of volunteers and a hired archaeologist from NUI Galway(I think that was the place.) They divided the field into grids and walked around measuring ground resistance to find anomalies. Results are still being analyzed.

TheValeyard

Awesome news


We all know what's buried beneath

Fr_Dougal

whiskeyman

thebiglad wrote: »

Good times ahead for Archaeologists

delly

I took a spin up there earlier today. Forgive the cheesy music, it was the first time that matched the video length on YouTube's editor.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4WVtnyomplk

Chaos Tourist

God, imagine what it will be like in a thousand years from now if the planet is still around.

Archaeologists are very excited to have discovered another Tesco carpark outside Athy. The team are finding the remains of what was once called an 'off licence' at the Tesco site and are digging up small fragments of what were then called Stella Artois cans.

Buford T. Justice XIX

Donald Trump wrote: »

If it was that interesting, the how come we don't see evidence of their amazing lives on their instagram posts then?


Duhhhhhhhh?

Coz wifi signal was crap back then as well:pac:

Are Am Eye

Chaos Tourist wrote: »

God, imagine what it will be like in a thousand years from now if the planet is still around.

Archaeologists are very excited to have discovered another Tesco carpark outside Athy. The team are finding the remains of what was once called an 'off licence' at the Tesco site and are digging up small fragments of what were then called Stella Artois cans.

It's an oblate spheroid actually.

Wheeliebin30

Looks like a pic from Aerosmith’s crazy video.

Roadtoad

Actually ('cause I'm an authority on these things) the ring is a bull pen. They were always stealing each others bulls, so the hard men and hard women of the time kept two rings (bull rings, with a legacy in modern Spain etc.), one for their own prize bull, the other as a spare, for when they came back from the hunt. The mathematical exactness of the circle is the optimum enclosed area for the number of posts available, each separated from the next by the length of the standard hardy oak limb, which closed the gap. They also stole each others posts, that's why some circles are smaller, or with a gap like teeth in a boxer's mouth. There's a modern parallel if you google Ballymany Stud on the Curragh, and note how the horse pen was left empty after the prize stud was nicked by the Gerryites from under the noses of the Sheakites, or was it from the Aga rangers.
The rectangular box in one corner of the circle was for the bull shyte. If you put your nose in real close to the screen you can still smell it!

bodhrandude

Never heard of a Drown, is that a drone full of water. :pac:

Igotadose

Looks like the Governments on it. Well, they're going to measure something anyway:
https://www.rte.ie/news/ireland/2018/0714/978626-newgrange/