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  • 03-07-2018 12:00am
    #1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,119 ✭✭✭


    Hi all,

    Okay, so to make a long story short.

    I was called up by management of an old job. Asked to work 8 hours. I done my work and was paid cash. I am not usually someone who accepts cash. But the manager insisted. So I took the pay.

    Since then I worked two more days there. However, I was never paid and when ever I call into collect my pay every excuse is made. I am owed for a 13.5 hours.

    What should I do? Would citizens information even entertain me when I was working for cash?

    Any help is appreciated.

    Thanks.


Comments

  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,611 ✭✭✭Mooooo


    Refuse to leave until you get your pay


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,119 ✭✭✭job seeker


    Mooooo wrote: »
    Refuse to leave until you get your pay

    Tried that. The manager behind the bar just walks away and ignores me.

    I have called in many times since working these days also..


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,611 ✭✭✭Mooooo


    Threaten to report them to revenue, if they insisted on paying cash they are avoiding tax


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,119 ✭✭✭job seeker


    Mooooo wrote: »
    Threaten to report them to revenue, if they insisted on paying cash they are avoiding tax

    Ok, suppose if I didn't threaten them and just went ahead and reported them?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,267 ✭✭✭mikeecho


    Mooooo wrote: »
    Threaten to report them to revenue, if they insisted on paying cash they are avoiding tax

    https://www.revenue.ie/en/corporate/assist-us/reporting-shadow-economy-activity/reporting.aspx

    They won't come after you (this time) as a few hrs tax free is small fish.
    They'd much rather catch the employer.

    Revenue are actually good to deal with.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,620 ✭✭✭Banterbus28


    Mooooo wrote: »
    Threaten to report them to revenue, if they insisted on paying cash they are avoiding tax

    That's a bit of a jump. You can't know whether or not they have declared the expense of paying cash or not...


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,620 ✭✭✭Banterbus28


    Mooooo wrote: »
    Refuse to leave until you get your pay

    That's just gonna get you lifted.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,267 ✭✭✭mikeecho


    That's a bit of a jump. You can't know whether or not they have declared the expense of paying cash or not...

    Let revenue investigate that.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,620 ✭✭✭Banterbus28


    mikeecho wrote: »
    That's a bit of a jump. You can't know whether or not they have declared the expense of paying cash or not...

    Let revenue investigate that.

    They aren't unless OP can prove it's systemic...


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,620 ✭✭✭Banterbus28


    Invoice them, technically you are self employed in this instance...

    It is an offence to with hold payment for services rendered without just cause.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,733 ✭✭✭OMM 0000


    I'm not recommending you do this, but it would get you paid pronto.

    Make a sign saying "X REFUSE TO PAY MY WAGES" and stand outside their business. They will pay you immediately.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 4,691 ✭✭✭4ensic15


    Start a complaint with the Workplace Relations Commission.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,384 ✭✭✭Eire Go Brach


    OMM 0000 wrote: »
    I'm not recommending you do this, but it would get you paid pronto.

    Make a sign saying "X REFUSE TO PAY MY WAGES" and stand outside their business. They will pay you immediately.

    You need to go above him. Give an ultimatum and a date that your entering the premises with this sign. And do it. Or get a load of your mates and go in with high viz on. With “debt collectors “


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,637 ✭✭✭brightspark


    Will they need you again?

    If so insist on payment in full when they next call you (I'm guessing you have a skill they need)


    If it is a job others can do but they need you just to fill a gap, they say yes the next time and sit around until you are paid.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,378 ✭✭✭CeilingFly


    Forget revenue - they won't be overly interested in small fry.

    WRC is different - you were contracted to work, you did not get written contract, no payslip, no pay, no holidays.

    They'll be out to the company very quickly looking for information.

    Maybe letting them know that if they don't pay within 7 days that you will make a complaint to the wrc.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,119 ✭✭✭job seeker


    Thanks all, I was in contact last Thursday with the KP that works there. She likes to 'talk'.. So I let her know that I needed my money and I was going to go to revenue. She stated that I couldn't as I myself was working for cash. I explained, that I just didn't care and I had Monday booked off, to do this. I also explained that I was sick of waiting to receive my money "next week" and next week just wasn't coming. None of this was true, but I decided to chance my arm.

    Friday at 10am. I was messaged by the manager, stating that my money was ready for collection on Saturday at 2pm. I replied and thanked him and I also stated that I appreciated it.

    Yesterday, I went down to the restaurant and waited from 1pm and walked in at 1:55pm and the money was waiting for me in an envelope.

    Thanks all for your advice.

    Obviously they were hoping that I'd forget about it and not have to pay me.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,620 ✭✭✭Banterbus28


    job seeker wrote: »
    Thanks all, I was in contact last Thursday with the KP that works there. She likes to 'talk'.. So I let her know that I needed my money and I was going to go to revenue. She stated that I couldn't as I myself was working for cash. I explained, that I just didn't care and I had Monday booked off, to do this. I also explained that I was sick of waiting to receive my money "next week" and next week just wasn't coming. None of this was true, but I decided to chance my arm.

    Friday at 10am. I was messaged by the manager, stating that my money was ready for collection on Saturday at 2pm. I replied and thanked him and I also stated that I appreciated it.

    Yesterday, I went down to the restaurant and waited from 1pm and walked in at and the money was waiting for me in a envelope for me.

    Thanks all for your advice.

    Obviously they were hoping that I'd forget about it and not have to pay me.

    If they cut corners like that to avoid paying staff I wonder what else they cut corners on?

    Glad you got sorted.

    Stay away.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,119 ✭✭✭job seeker


    If they cut corners like that to avoid paying staff I wonder what else they cut corners on?

    Glad you got sorted.

    Stay away.

    Any corners, which can be cut. Are cut, I can assure you.

    Cheers.

    Yup, not worth the hassle. But the reason, I did work was purely because I was getting 13 p/h. Which was pretty good. That was only, because they were stuck though.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,620 ✭✭✭Banterbus28


    job seeker wrote: »
    If they cut corners like that to avoid paying staff I wonder what else they cut corners on?

    Glad you got sorted.

    Stay away.

    Any corners, which can be cut. Are cut, I can assure you.

    Cheers.

    Yup, not worth the hassle. But the reason, I did work was purely because I was getting 13 p/h. Which was pretty good. That was only, because they were stuck though.

    Selling parrot as chicken lol?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,119 ✭✭✭job seeker


    Selling parrot as chicken lol?

    If Parrot was a cheaper alternative of course they would be..

    :D


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