Satellite Receive Options

tod1982

Hi,

I am cancelling sky and wondering what is the best option for FTA and Saorview channels. Not worried about the price of the box as I will compare the options. 
below are my requirements:

[*]Satellite & Saorview either on the same EPG or separate (I don't mind getting for example humax box for free sat and switching to aerial for irish channels)
[*]Ability to record
[*]Ability to series link
[*]7 day EPG 

[font=Open Sans, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]Could someone recommend the best way to go and what would be a good box?[/font]

[font=Open Sans, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]Thanks [/font]

dvdman1

tod1982 wrote: »

Hi,

I am cancelling sky and wondering what is the best option for FTA and Saorview channels. Not worried about the price of the box as I will compare the options. 
below are my requirements:

[*]Satellite & Saorview either on the same EPG or separate (I don't mind getting for example humax box for free sat and switching to aerial for irish channels)
[*]Ability to record
[*]Ability to series link
[*]7 day EPG 

[font=Open Sans, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]Could someone recommend the best way to go and what would be a good box?[/font]

[font=Open Sans, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]Thanks [/font]

Saorview Approved combi TV or connect your existing TV to an Approved combi box.
Have an aerial, satellite and broadband connected to it.
You get all the irish and uk free tv
But only Now and Next Epg for uk

Freesat is the only way to get 7day epg on uk

Another option would be buy a freesat (not free to air) tv that also has freeview tuner (works with saorview) 7day epg is on irish and uk. Models are here.
https://www.freesat.co.uk/get-freesat/televisions/

Gerry Wicklow

A Linux enigma based combo box will give you both Saorview and FTA satellite in one box. You will need an aerial for Saorview and a satellite dish for the UK channels. An internet connection will add functions like Youtube. The current favourite is the Tiviar
The only Saorview approved box available at the moment does not have recording or a 7day EPG for satellite. Likewise budget, non-Linux boxes will probably not have a 7day EPG on satellite.

Gerry Wicklow

dvdman1 wrote: »

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Freesat is the only way to get 7day epg on uk
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Wrong. All Linux boxes have full 7day EPG with comprehensive series linking etc. You can also mix terrestrial and satellite channels on the same EPG

tod1982

Gerry Wicklow wrote: »

A Linux enigma based combo box will give you both Saorview and FTA satellite in one box. You will need an aerial for Saorview and a satellite dish for the UK channels. An internet connection will add functions like Youtube. The current favourite is the Tiviar
The only Saorview approved box available at the moment does not have recording or a 7day EPG for satellite. Likewise budget, non-Linux boxes will probably not have a 7day EPG on satellite.

thanks - where is the best place to buy the Tiviar - world of satellite or sat25 or somewhere else?
Is there some set up involved with this box or once I connect it will there be some work involved?

Gerry Wicklow

World of Sat have good prices. When you first install there is a "wizard" that talks you through the basics such as your local network and terrestrial tuning. There is a bit of a learning curve getting used to the terminology etc but there is plenty of help available here if you really get stumped. A little bit of effort now will be hugely rewarding later as you find just how powerful and flexible these boxes can be. That said, if you just want a basic box it will do that too.

dvdman1

Gerry Wicklow wrote: »

Wrong. All Linux boxes have full 7day EPG with comprehensive series linking etc. You can also mix terrestrial and satellite channels on the same EPG

my info is outdated..gerry can i ask u when did this happen i thought the uk epg was copywrited? Does this mean the end of choosing freesat in Ireland

Gerry Wicklow

There are numerous sources of EPG data both online and via sat. Some legal and some legally vague.
Freesat is still very relevant as a plug and play type service. Things like auto-tuning and "Red Button" functions are useful. Like many things in life, what suits one user may restrict another. It should also be noted that there are increasing numbers of FTA channels not on the Freesat EPG. Most notably Channel 4 HD and other sport and news channels.

Johnboy1951

Gerry Wicklow wrote: »

There are numerous sources of EPG data both online and via sat. Some legal and some legally vague.
Freesat is still very relevant as a plug and play type service. Things like auto-tuning and "Red Button" functions are useful. Like many things in life, what suits one user may restrict another. It should also be noted that there are increasing numbers of FTA channels not on the Freesat EPG. Most notably Channel 4 HD and other sport and news channels.

From what I have been able to understand, the EPG data/facts are not covered by copyright, but the database compilation of those data/facts could well be, provided the database meets certain criteria.

Also the presentation method of the data is likely covered by copyright ..... such as Sky EPG, Freesat EPG as they are displayed to the user.

It is definitely difficult to get a hard, fast and 'absolute' answer .... particularly if one wanted to distribute the data.

conhen

Hi sorry if this is on the wrong page. I'm looking for advice on cabling. I have a sat dish (FTA) and saorview Ariel. Currently I have x4 connections that are combined in the attic and then split before set top box. I want to add a fifth TV to the set up. Is it possible to split one of the four connections into 2 and have x2 set top boxes off the one connection. The saorview one should be OK but not sure about the FTA. I want to avoid getting a new lnb with extra connections if possible.
Hope this makes sense and thanks for any ad vice

Gerry Wicklow

Satellite tuners send control signals to the LNB on the dish and therefore need a direct connection to the dish. If you try to split a satellite signal the two tuners can fight for control even if one device is turned off. It is possible to get a 'priority switch' device which will give you an either/or option if you knew two devices would never be on at the same time.

Delta Lima

I'm afraid you can't split a lead from a satellite dish and expect both outputs to work simultaneously, in the same way that you can split a lead from an aerial.

If you really don't want to go for an Octo LNB, then you might consider a multiswitch installed in your attic that would give you 8 outputs. If you connect your aerial to the multiswitch then you would have all your terrestrial stations available at each output also.

Be careful that you choose a multiswitch that can work with a quad LNB. ( That's the normal LNB, but not the one that works with SKY Q).

An Example of a suitable multiswitch would be this model by EMP Centuri.
Multiswitch MS5/8PIU-4 (P.143-UP)

conhen

Cheers for the info. Will look into those options, many thanks for the quick responses