Relocation

Unanimous

I work for an organisation who sends people to work abroad for training. The company has said that going abroad is not based on performance etc.

I was on training with a few of my colleagues and there was a level of uncertainty on where we will go next for training.

Now we have been told where we would go for training and most of us are going abroad. I am staying in Ireland and being sent to Dublin.

When you go abroad, your accommodation/transportation etc is sorted out for you but when you stay in the country, there is no form of assistance.

I am planning to meet with HR to ask for assistance for moving to Dublin because the situation there is really bad. We are all in entry level roles and so our pay isn't really that great.

Please can anyone give me any advice on how to go about this issue?
According to what I have heard, the company usually has the arguement that what they pay is competitive based on what other people earn in Dublin but I am coming from a perspective that there was a level of uncertainty around our relocation. Some people got what they wanted, others didn't. I had to leave my accommodation in Dublin which was decent to go down for this job somewhere in Waterford, now I have to look for another one in Dublin which has been proving difficult

I believe they should offer support for people to going to Dublin as well because it is one of the most expensive cities in the world while the other cities these people go are not as bad as dublin. secondly even the people who go to expensive cities outside Ireland get assistance so they are indifferent.

Please can you give me any advise on how to approach this with HR?

Thanks

Stheno

are you being asked to move permanently to Dublin?

Unanimous

no I am not asked to move temporarily and could be sent on training somewhere else after one year

Stheno

Unanimous wrote: »

no I am not asked to move temporarily and could be sent on training somewhere else after one year

so you are being asked to move to Dublin for a long time? that is you are not being sent on a training course for a week or two?

what happens to the job in your current location?

Unanimous

no its like an management/consultant trainee job where you get sent to different locations for a year to work.

Stheno

Unanimous wrote: »

no its like an management/consultant trainee job where you get sent to different locations for a year to work.

ah right.

hard to know how to make a case for assistance given what you've outlined to be honest.

have you discussed it with your manager?

Unanimous

no I haven't and I don't know if my manager can help. don't know if I should talk to HR or to him first

Stheno

Unanimous wrote: »

no I haven't and I don't know if my manager can help. don't know if I should talk to HR or to him first

start with your manager.

does your contract state that you will be required to move locations?

Unanimous

yeah it stated that it is a contract that would be require travelling and relocating.

Stheno

Unanimous wrote: »

yeah it stated that it is a contract that would be require travelling and relocating.

and you were aware you might have to move to Dublin with no extra compensation?

Unanimous

no not really, we go into the job not knowing where we would go for the next year. I was told about it a month ago. the uncertainty is that they tell you that you may go abroad. so thats what we were hoping for. they have never given anyone assistance for Dublin and thats why I want to discuss it with them

Stheno

Unanimous wrote: »

no not really, we go into the job not knowing where we would go for the next year. I was told about it a month ago. the uncertainty is that they tell you that you may go abroad. so thats what we were hoping for. they have never given anyone assistance for Dublin and thats why I want to discuss it with them

are you trying to make a case that if you went abroad they would provide housing assistance and should do the same for people moving to Dublin on the basis that its expensive?

do they provide housing the entire time you are abroad or for a shorter time?

Masala

Unanimous wrote: »

no not really, we go into the job not knowing where we would go for the next year. I was told about it a month ago. the uncertainty is that they tell you that you may go abroad. so thats what we were hoping for. they have never given anyone assistance for Dublin and thats why I want to discuss it with them

Seems unfair. If they send you to London you get assistance with accommodation and moving. If sent to Dublin you get nothing!!!

Can't see the difference myself... both have the same amount of challenges in getting setup for training.

Where are you based at moment...

Unanimous

yes thats the case I am trying to make actually. they usually provide a accomodation for the entire stay, a car, cover any expense to come back to Ireland for company events etc. it is really difficult to sort out accomodation or moving my things to Dubln.

Stheno

Unanimous wrote: »

yes thats the case I am trying to make actually. they usually provide a accomodation for the entire stay, a car, cover any expense to come back to Ireland for company events etc. it is really difficult to sort out accomodation or moving my things to Dubln.

talk to your manager first about it. best of luck. i suspect you won't get very far with it however

Unanimous

I am in between Waterford and Cork which is a very small town. rent is affordable here. I feel its a really unfair. my colleagues are saying that nothing would be done but I am trying to make a good case for myself to see what they would do about it.

Batgurl

There’s no precedent for it as the Dublin housing market hasn’t been the way it is for a very long time so that’s probably why everyone is saying you won’t get it.

But I think you are in a good position to put a case forward, especially if you:

a) have no family or support network in Dublin to assist you
b) don’t currently have a car for work
c) don’t currently earn a high enough salary to allow you to easily pick up an apartment in Dublin for a year

You probably took the role before the Dublin market was in such bad condition. Explain how you may not have taken it if you’d known being relocated there with no support was a possibility. Show them exactly how much you think you would need to work in Dublin.

If they refuse all that, make a request to be reallocated elsewhere based on hardship. Surely someone in the training would be only too delighted to stay closer to home?

Unanimous

Thanks I will see how this goes.

Unanimous

Stheno wrote: »

talk to your manager first about it. best of luck. i suspect you won't get very far with it however

I talked to my manager and she said that I should try raising the issue with the HR manager and the head of the program but that she doubts that anything can be done about it as far as she is aware of.

Batgurl

Unanimous wrote: »

I talked to my manager and she said that I should try raising the issue with the HR manager and the head of the grad program but that she doubts that anything can be done about it as far as she is aware of.

Well your manager sounds useless. He/She should be fighting your case for you. When my team wants something that I agree with, I go in swinging for them. Can you get their backing?

Unanimous

Batgurl wrote: »

Well your manager sounds useless. He/She should be fighting your case for you. When my team wants something that I agree with, I go in swinging for them. Can you get their backing?

I am not sure if she is willing because it seemed that other people who had been in similar situation had been turned down. She asked me to however make my case to them in the meeting they arranged with me to see what they say