BMW busted by guards on M7

Driving home this evening and at around 8:20 PM I was doing 140 and he flew past, easily doing 170-180 Km/h, few mins later I caught sight of squad in my rear view Mirror and it flew past me so knew she had caught him.

This was on M9 South after Kilcullen, so wherever she was hiding I didn't see her ffs, not even a glimpse out of the corner of my eye. And I would have passed her before the 5 Series.

The Guard caught pulled him over at the Carlow/Castledermot turn off.

I wonder , court appearance and fine ?

EPAndlee

If they were doing that speed then surely its off the road, well it should be anyway

Jimbob1977

I'd expect it's a disqualification if the speed could be proven.

It's quite common to hear about UK footballers getting driving bans for 100mph (160kmph).

I know this isn't the UK..... But that's a ferocious speed.

Gorgeousgeorge

Depends if he/she got caught with the speed gun. If not its just hearsay. Mad speed to be doing

Dick Turnip

Was driving back from Kilkenny to Dublin around that time and noticed a squad car parked halfway down the "on" sliproad on the far side.

Can't for the life of me remember where exactly as I'm not overly familiar with that road but I think it could have been around Kilcullen

Voodoomelon

Deleted User wrote: »

I was doing 140 and he flew past, easily doing 170-180 Km/h, few mins later I caught sight of squad in my rear view Mirror

Even 30 seconds later, good luck to her catching him. :cool:

Dick Turnip

Dick Turnip wrote: »

Was driving back from Kilkenny to Dublin around that time and noticed a squad car parked halfway down the "on" sliproad on the far side.

Can't for the life of me remember where exactly as I'm not overly familiar with that road but I think it could have been around Kilcullen

Yeah could have been the bridge at Kilcullen, just shows the dirt the Guards have to drive if she only caught up with him at the Carlow/Castledermot turn off. , ridiculous !

racso1975

Deleted User wrote: »

Yeah could have been the bridge at Kilcullen, just shows the dirt the Guards have to drive if she only caught up with him at the Carlow/Castledermot turn off. , ridiculous !

If he's doing 170/180 she needs to be doing more to catch him especially from standing start. Could easily of taken till after athy and she might have wanted him off motorway to really bollick him and her own safety

FriendsEV

If no proof

Nothing

Just a telling off

In my crazy youth I was doing limited top speed of 250, didn't see mondeo blue lights

They met me parked outside chipper about 20 mins after it happened with questions, but did nothing, no proof

Said they were doing 200 and losing ground

Quessing that's the top speed of the mondeo

Hyundai they have, cant be much better

JustJoe7240

FriendsEV wrote: »

If no proof

Nothing

Just a telling off

In my crazy youth I was doing limited top speed of 250, didn't see mondeo blue lights

They met me parked outside chipper about 20 mins after it happened with questions, but did nothing, no proof

Said they were doing 200 and losing ground

Quessing that's the top speed of the mondeo

Hyundai they have, cant be much better

Wow, that's impressive.

joeysoap

JustJoe7240 wrote: »

Wow, that's impressive.

Irresponsible

endacl

Deleted User wrote: »

I was doing 140

JustJoe7240

joeysoap wrote: »

Irresponsible

Apologies, Didn't use enough sarcasm

FriendsEV

joeysoap wrote: »

Irresponsible

It was

Even though its normal in Germany

It just feels wrong here, even on an empty motorway and a performance car designed for it

aidanki

FriendsEV wrote: »

If no proof

Nothing

Just a telling off

In my crazy youth I was doing limited top speed of 250, didn't see mondeo blue lights

They met me parked outside chipper about 20 mins after it happened with questions, but did nothing, no proof

Said they were doing 200 and losing ground

Quessing that's the top speed of the mondeo

Hyundai they have, cant be much better

what type of car did u have to do that speed

Indricotherium

aidanki wrote: »

what type of car did u have to do that speed

A mark 4 imagination.

SeaFields

A couple of years back my new born had to go to crumlin in a hurry by ambulance. I followed on by car but not in convoy or anything. Did 160-170 most of the way from Limerick to Dublin. I was full sure I would be pulled at some stage but nothing. Luck of the draw I suppose if they are on the motorway. Don't see it too often.

Peatys

Indricotherium wrote: »

A mark 4 imagination.

Civic diesel tops out at 245. Not that far out of reach

I think the limit should be increased to 140 for certain newer motorways and 120 for Naas road N7.

M9 is easily good for 140.

Seth Brundle

[Deleted User] wrote: »

I think the limit should be increased to 140 for certain newer motorways and 120 for Naas road N7.

M9 is easily good for 140.

Most of our drivers wouldn't be competent at driving at those speeds.

FriendsEV

aidanki wrote: »

what type of car did u have to do that speed

Mazda 3 MPS

FriendsEV

Peatys wrote: »

Civic diesel tops out at 245. Not that far out of reach

Maybe the Type R, no diesel Honda Civic does 245, unless seriously modified

CeilingFly

FriendsEV wrote: »

In my crazy youth I was doing limited top speed of 250, didn't see mondeo blue lights

aren't you BRILIANT


Suppose you ate 50 pancakes and had a sackful of valentine letters too. :rolleyes:

bazz26

It does on a games console or in a Fast and Furious movie maybe.

FriendsEV

CeilingFly wrote: »

aren't you BRILIANT


Suppose you ate 50 pancakes and had a sackful of valentine letters too. :rolleyes:

Was 23, long time ago

Seth Brundle

Seth Brundle wrote: »

Most of our drivers wouldn't be competent at driving at those speeds.

Well too bad for them but there's a lot of motorway now well capable of those speeds.

amcalester

Deleted User wrote: »

Well too bad for them but there's a lot of motorway now well capable of those speeds.

Motorways don't move:rolleyes:

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arsebiscuits82

SeaFields wrote: »

A couple of years back my new born had to go to crumlin in a hurry by ambulance. I followed on by car but not in convoy or anything. Did 160-170 most of the way from Limerick to Dublin. I was full sure I would be pulled at some stage but nothing. Luck of the draw I suppose if they are on the motorway. Don't see it too often.

Had something similar about 6 weeks ago. Wife was heavily pregnant, got up at 7 am to heavy bleeding and not feeling a baby. Home to the hospital door in 9 minutes in morning traffic, usually a 20-25 minute drive. Topped out at around 220kph in one section. An ambulance would have taken 30-40 minutes to get to us, so i made to call to go for it. Hazards on and flashing the headlights the whole way up, apologising with my hand as I passed/met cars.

95% of traffic saw me and moved, and hopefully understood nobody drives like that. The thought crossed my mind to call the guards and ask for an escort but it was faster to get on the road.

It all worked out in the end though, our little fella arrived 3 weeks early 3 weeks ago. Given the circumstances if I had to do it again I would, but would call the guards first to advise them of my upcoming lunacy!

2ygb4cmqetsjhx

Meh. I think the limits need to be increased. Whenever I drive in Ireland 120 feels incredibly slow, especially as I live in germany where I usually floor it and drive between 180 & 220 depending on the car.

amcalester

amcalester wrote: »

Motorways don't move:rolleyes:

Funny man. :rolleyes:

The Autobahn lanes are far wider than our lanes but 140 is an acceptable max for a lot of our newer motorways.

Let them have peak and off peak limits, 100 for the N7 3 lanes is an utter joke, though I would imagine that limit is more down to reducing noise pollution, then if that's the case let them install proper quality asphalt like they do in Germany, for instance the new surface between Newlands cross and long mile is quite typical of the road surface in Germany.

The New surface on the Kilcullen Bypass is pretty rough, and the new M9 between Carlow/Castledermot turn off at the Dump heading for Bagenalstown is an utter disgrace for such a new motorway, the noise travels very far, I should know as I like 1 Km from it as the crow flies.

seachto7

Yehuda Fit Skull wrote: »

Meh. I think the limits need to be increased. Whenever I drive in Ireland 120 feels incredibly slow, especially as I live in germany where I usually floor it and drive between 180 & 220 depending on the car.

No. They shouldn't be increased. There's already an amount of d1ckheads going well over 120 on the motorways here.

seachto7

seachto7 wrote: »

No. They shouldn't be increased. There's already an amount of d1ckheads going well over 120 on the motorways here.

What about the people driving 60-80 Km/h, they're just as bad .

I drive at 140 regularly on the M9 and it's about right for that road.

dudara

Deleted User wrote: »

I think the limit should be increased to 140 for certain newer motorways and 120 for Naas road N7.

M9 is easily good for 140.

When you consider that most drivers can’t (or worse, won’t) use a three lane carriage way correctly, I’m not convinced about increasing the speed limits on the N7

120 is more than acceptable off peak for the N7 and the M50.

dudara

Deleted User wrote: »

120 is more than acceptable off peak for the N7 and the M50.

Not when people don’t know how to use 3 lanes correctly. My view, improve our basic standards of driving first so that Irish drivers have sufficient basic skills to be able to drive at speed. Then we can look at increasing the speed

And for the sake of transparency, I like to drive fast, but standards on 3 lame carriageways here like the N7 and the M50 are atrocious

_Kaiser_

I think half the problem is the underpowered/inappropriate cars that many take to the motorways in - eg: these little hatchbacks, or bigger cars with small engines where at 120+ the engine is revving like crazy and the stability isn't great (I remember driving my now-ex's 1.3 Honda Fit on the M3 and it wasn't what I'd consider safe at all).

Whereas in my former 2L Passat it was a completely different experience. In my current 3L Quattro it doesn't even touch 2000 RPM at 120 km/h.

_Kaiser_

dudara wrote: »

Not when people don’t know how to use 3 lanes correctly. My view, improve our basic standards of driving first so that Irish drivers have sufficient basic skills to be able to drive at speed. Then we can look at increasing the speed

And for the sake of transparency, I like to drive fast, but standards on 3 lame carriageways here like the N7 and the M50 are atrocious

I drive the N7 daily (off-peak) and I can tell you there's no issue whatsoever with doing 120 on it.......... if one wanted to......

100 vs 120 isn't that big a jump - the key is situational awareness and being ready to react as needed if someone does something stupid.

The real issue is lack of training, people here merge onto motorways at 60 Km/h into lanes with traffic going 120+ causing the lane to slow down to 60 which has a knock on effect if it's busy.

You pass your test in Ireland driving mainly 50 kph then can do what you like, madness, no training to drive at high speeds or how to merge and exit motorways. Joke !

Slip roads are not fit for purpose on the N7, there's also far too many exits and I can consider the 100 limit fine for peak usage but not for off peak, then it becomes incredibly ridiculous when there's little traffic.

Some other motorways might be the same.

The M9 North after the tunnel was upgraded to a suitable slip road, merging lane, probably the best in the country, before it was disastrous.

dudara

_Kaiser_ wrote: »

I drive the N7 daily (off-peak) and I can tell you there's no issue whatsoever with doing 120 on it.......... if one wanted to......

100 vs 120 isn't that big a jump - the key is situational awareness and being ready to react as needed if someone does something stupid.

I don’t disagree with an individual being able to do it. But there’s a big difference between a few competent people and a herd of incompetent people. There’s no way I’d trust ALL drivers especially when most of them can’t/won’t use the correct lanes.

_Kaiser_

Deleted User wrote: »

The real issue is lack of training, people here merge onto motorways at 60 Km/h into lanes with traffic going 120+ causing the lane to slow down to 60 which has a knock on effect if it's busy.

You pass your test in Ireland driving mainly 50 kph then can do what you like, madness, no training to drive at high speeds or how to merge and exit motorways. Joke !

Slip roads are not fit for purpose on the N7, there's also far too many exits and I can consider the 100 limit fine for peak usage but not for off peak, then it becomes incredibly ridiculous when there's little traffic.

Some other motorways might be the same.

The M9 North after the tunnel was upgraded to a suitable slip road, merging lane, probably the best in the country, before it was disastrous.

I agree completely on the merging.. the amount of times I'm trying to merge onto a motorway only to be stuck by some dawdling idiot (again could be an underpowered car as well) doing 60/70 while a 40 foot truck bears down on the right is just ridiculous!

Most of our motorways are more than suitable for 140 once you get outside Dublin... the M8 for example could be 140 24/7 it's so quiet most of the time.

_Kaiser_

_Kaiser_ wrote: »

I drive the N7 daily (off-peak) and I can tell you there's no issue whatsoever with doing 120 on it.......... if one wanted to......

100 vs 120 isn't that big a jump - the key is situational awareness and being ready to react as needed if someone does something stupid.

I regularly drive the N7 off peak also and drive usually 120 and I'm not the only one, people don't break the limit because they're bad people they break the limit because it makes no sense what so ever when peak traffic has passed, of course peak traffic is different, you won't get no where near those speeds and the upgrade on the M7 to 3 lanes will just make all that traffic hit Rathcoole a lot faster causing traffic to queue at Kill to newlands cross rather than Rathcoole to newlands.

Anyway, the point is that there should be peak and off peak limits in busy areas and on the likes of the M9, parts of M7 etc when they get out of peak areas the limit should be 140.

McCrack

OSI wrote: »

They don't need proof.

If the Gardai are alleging a person has driven at an excessive speed they need to be able to demonstrate (prove) that to the Court.

_Kaiser_

McCrack wrote: »

If the Gardai are alleging a person has driven at an excessive speed they need to be able to demonstrate (prove) that to the Court.

Is it not still the case that "I saw him do it Judge" (optionally with his mate "yea me too Judge") is still considered enough "proof" in this country?

Bit of a joke though given we've seen actual PROOF recently that AGS are prone to making up numbers.

JC01

This debate pops up here every other week with predictable responses, honestly your man was unlucky to be done, you can get away with speeding an awful lot on our motorways.

As to the rights/wrongs of it, different people in different cars in different circumstances are going to be safely capable of wildly different speeds, having a set 24/7 limit on every road in the country is archaic in this day and age. Late at night a performance car in the right hands can be a much safer place to be at 260+ than a lot of the driving you see at 60 on the m50 at rush hour but still a lot of people lose their minds that modern cars are capable of decent speeds as a few posters here have already done.

GarIT

I've no idea if it's true but I've heard (essentially down the pub) that since we joined the EU all motorways built or improved have to be specced for 160km/h.

With all the technology in existence I think the speed limits on every road should be variable. On a sunny hot day today with incredibly high grip due to the heat of the road surface the outside lane on most motorways shouldn't have a limit, in heavy rain they should be restricted to 100km/h.

I'd also suggest speed limits varying by lane, 80km/h or 100km/h in the left lane, 120km/h in the middle lane, and no limit in the outside lane. And the lanes vehicles can use should be restricted based on the vehicles power to weight ratio.

Leonard Hofstadter

120 is quite slow for a motorway, most of ours are definitely capable of much higher than that. The main problem with higher speeds is the incompetence of a substantial portion of the driving population. If we drove better on motorways, such as following the keep left rule at all times, then we should definitely be allowed do 140 for sure.

The alternative would be to have something like the 10% + 3 km/h (2 mph) rule in England and Wales, that would allow us to do 135 km/h before being done on a motorway, 113 in a 100 (I really think there should be a limit of 110 for dual carriageways like the way they allow 70 mph for them in the UK), 91 in an 80, 69 in a 60 and 58 in a 50.

wexie

JC01 wrote: »

As to the rights/wrongs of it, different people in different cars in different circumstances are going to be safely capable of wildly different speeds, having a set 24/7 limit on every road in the country is archaic in this day and age. Late at night a performance car in the right hands can be a much safer place to be at 260+ than a lot of the driving you see at 60 on the m50 at rush hour but still a lot of people lose their minds that modern cars are capable of decent speeds as a few posters here have already done.

hmmmyeah.....perhaps....on the assumption there is either nobody else on the road or the people sharing the road with you are all acting in a rational and predictable manner.

And from my experience of the roads in Ireland (and I've a fair bit at pretty much anytime of day) that's a hell of an assumption to make with your life.

JC01

wexie wrote: »

hmmmyeah.....perhaps....on the assumption there is either nobody else on the road or the people sharing the road with you are all acting in a rational and predictable manner.

And from my experience of the roads in Ireland (and I've a fair bit at pretty much anytime of day) that's a hell of an assumption to make with your life.

To be fair late at night most of our motorways are completely empty bar lorries which means you can see lights of upcoming cars from hundreds of metres if not kilometres back, ease off and you've slowed down to normal speeds in the few seconds it takes to catch up to them. Im not condoning driving like a lunatic all the time but surely you can see the point im making?

punisher5112

Plan is to lower limits as to save on pollution.

They want to lower the 120km/h to 100km/h.