glanbia milk price cut

cute geoge

It is some stunt to pull to drop the price for the peak month and i have have not heard as much as a peep from any of their suppliers .It looks like there is not much fight in any of them anyway!! I would say the board are thinking that they would have goting away even with a 2 cent drop .
God help us the ganbia dairy suppliers are fairly fainthearted.

GrasstoMilk

cute geoge wrote: »

It is some stunt to pull to drop the price for the peak month and i have have not heard as much as a peep from any of their suppliers .It looks like there is not much fight in any of them anyway!! I would say the board are thinking that they would have goting away even with a 2 cent drop .
God help us the ganbia dairy suppliers are fairly fainthearted.

Strongly thinking of making enquires with strathroy and arrawbawn here. Both are collecting in our area.
We've been Glanbia suppliers since the day my grandparents started supplying milk in the 60s.
Don't want to leave but the price is ridiculous compared to what is being paid else where.
I want to be paid for my milk by the plc not by the coop which we own, and not by having to buy meal and fert to get rebates on them.

Biggest processor in the country and they can't match the competitors prices

simx

GrasstoMilk wrote: »

Strongly thinking of making enquires with strathroy and arrawbawn here. Both are collecting in our area.
We've been Glanbia suppliers since the day my grandparents started supplying milk in the 60s.
Don't want to leave but the price is ridiculous compared to what is being paid else where.
I want to be paid for my milk by the plc not by the coop which we own, and not by having to buy meal and fert to get rebates on them.

Biggest processor in the country and they can't match the competitors prices

That's how they became the biggest

GrasstoMilk

simx wrote: »

That's how they became the biggest

Not really.they were always very fair with the price over the years iirc. The last few years has been very different to what they always were

whelan2

GrasstoMilk wrote: »

Not really.they were always very fair with the price over the years iirc. The last few years has been very different to what they always were

Around here lakelands were always the poor man's creamery, now it is glanbia. Almost 2 cent of a difference in cpl. That's 2000 euro less of a milk cheque for me for May than if I supplied lakelands

jaymla627

whelan2 wrote: »

Around here lakelands were always the poor man's creamery, now it is glanbia. Almost 2 cent of a difference in cpl. That's 2000 euro less of a milk cheque for me for May than if I supplied lakelands

It's even more head scratching given a lot of Lakeland milk is going into Ballyragget that's collected in my area, obviously glanbia have to be paying enough for it that Lakeland can hold their price at nearly 3 cent above glanbias base price

mf240

GrasstoMilk wrote: »

Strongly thinking of making enquires with strathroy and arrawbawn here. Both are collecting in our area.
We've been Glanbia suppliers since the day my grandparents started supplying milk in the 60s.
Don't want to leave but the price is ridiculous compared to what is being paid else where.
I want to be paid for my milk by the plc not by the coop which we own, and not by having to buy meal and fert to get rebates on them.

Biggest processor in the country and they can't match the competitors prices

Arrabawn lorry literally passes the gate here. Will have to consider changing. I can't afford to prop up a multinational company.

whelan2

mf240 wrote: »

Arrabawn lorry literally passes the gate here. Will have to consider changing. I can't afford to prop up a multinational company.

Do we still have to give 2 years notice e en if there isn't 2 years left in the msa?

mf240

whelan2 wrote: »

Do we still have to give 2 years notice e en if there isn't 2 years left in the msa?

Not sure.

Mooooo

It's the bollixing with these "support payments" is part of the problem only being used to mask pulling the prices. You'll see when profits increase at the coop that the were talking ****e

RightTurnClyde

Not trying to be smart, but every few months there's the usual 'I sick of Glanbia, I'm giving notice or i'm moving coop". Has anyone actually done it, or even made more than a half arsed effort to.
They're taking the p1ss.

GrasstoMilk

RightTurnClyde wrote: »

Not trying to be smart, but every few months there's the usual 'I sick of Glanbia, I'm giving notice or i'm moving coop". Has anyone actually done it, or even made more than a half arsed effort to.
They're taking the p1ss.

First time I've considered it tbh.
We were locked into the msa until now. 2 years notice is a balls

alps

GrasstoMilk wrote: »

First time I've considered it tbh.
We were locked into the msa until now. 2 years notice is a balls

It's a real catch 22....

It was my understanding originally(not supplier) that once you give notice you will no longer be entitled to coop top ups...you may have a look to see if this still is the case, but that would have a huge financial bearing on the possibility of leaving.

You might also check out what happens in the event that you give notice, but at the 2 year expiry time you have not ceased supplying, then you will need to recommence a new 2 year notice period to leave..

There would seem to be a lot of ducks to line up to make this happen....

If you take the view that you are going to break the contract and deal with whatever fallout from glanbia, you will not be accepted by any ICOS Coop due to agreements 2 years ago.

This limits options...it's certainly achievable, but would look to me to be a long expensive road to leave.

Maybe there are other was of doing it through change of business structure/entity, change of business ownership etc.

It's a horrible place to be with this sort of trauma going around in your head. Don't let it eat you up...investigate, calculate and decide...

And go back to doing what you do well...

kowtow

My instinct is that Glanbia suppliers are a victim of their own success - at least if success is measured by scale alone.

Whatever the expensive marketing talk about premium products and value added niches, there has presumably always been a relatively static catalog of high value lines in the product mix to return a premium. The balance of milk supplied must surely end up as commodity powder one way or another and that dilutes the premium returns for all suppliers.

The more milk they process the more must end up in the drier, I would have thought... at least that's the obvious conclusion for an interested outsider.

It would make me very wary indeed of plans to consolidate processors for further "economies of scale" because it turns out that the milk price itself is one of those economies.....

boggerman1

alps wrote: »

It's a real catch 22....

It was my understanding originally(not supplier) that once you give notice you will no longer be entitled to coop top ups...you may have a look to see if this still is the case, but that would have a huge financial bearing on the possibility of leaving.


You might also check out what happens in the event that you give notice, but at the 2 year expiry time you have not ceased supplying, then you will need to recommence a new 2 year notice period to leave..

There would seem to be a lot of ducks to line up to make this happen....

If you take the view that you are going to break the contract and deal with whatever fallout from glanbia, you will not be accepted by any ICOS Coop due to agreements 2 years ago.

This limits options...it's certainly achievable, but would look to me to be a long expensive road to leave.

Maybe there are other was of doing it through change of business structure/entity, change of business ownership etc.

It's a horrible place to be with this sort of trauma going around in your head. Don't let it eat you up...investigate, calculate and decide...

And go back to doing what you do well...

Reading that post makes brexit sound easy😉

visatorro

jaymla627 wrote:

It's even more head scratching given a lot of Lakeland milk is going into Ballyragget that's collected in my area, obviously glanbia have to be paying enough for it that Lakeland can hold their price at nearly 3 cent above glanbias base price

Lorry Man was telling me he met Lake lands lorry in a man's yard and had to reverse back onto the road. Then met him later on in the glanbia depot dropping off milk.

Our man should be on four loads per day. He's only on two. Farmers just filling the liquid contract and sending the rest with lakelands. I'm in a tradional liquid area.

Don't know what I'm going to myself.