Rally car

Smehz

Yes I know expensive..Yes I know hAve put lot money into a car for it to be worth it

But what would be the easiest n cheapest build for a rally car like what kind of rally car, I see lot of e11 corolla going cheap n I worked on many of them but never seen a rally spec one so I wouldn't know how to go about it?

If comes to it I'd run a car standard but would like to know requirements cause all I know is needed is harness and roll cage and helmet n suit

mickdw

In my opinion, you will buy a rally car far cheaper than you will build to same spec.
Sure you will buy a cheap corolla but when you have it down to basically the shell and need all the better bits to build it up again, it is nuts the amount of money you will spend.

Cee-Jay-Cee

To be honest with you, the fact that you haven’t really any idea at all about cars, group types, etc etc suggests that it’s not something you should be doing.

The vast majority of drivers/co-pilots have been following rally’s for years, most come from a rallying background and so have first hand knowledge before ever sitting behind the wheel of a rally car.

It’s not really a case of going out and building or buying a car and entering the next available rally. There is an awful lot of background stuff that you need to have/sort before ever getting on the road.

Inexperience is the most dangerous thing when it comes to rallying.

ianobrien

OP, as it has been said, it's cheaper to buy than to build. There are a few cars on Dungdeal in the €4k to €5k range that are grand to start out.

Buying the car is the cheap side of competing in rallying if you want to do more that 2 or 3 events a year. You could easily spend the price of the car. Rallying is not a cheap sport. Entry fee alone is in the €700 to €1400 range. Then it's fuel, tyres, consumables, service crew, etc. You have to budget for rebuilds (either send to Prodrive/M-Sport or raid a scrapyard, up to you). I know people that would easily spend €5k a weekend competing. Hell, I've heard of people spending €20k a weekend!

OP, I'd join my local motor club to see how a rally is ran and how much it costs.

Smehz

Cee-Jay-Cee wrote: »

To be honest with you, the fact that you haven’t really any idea at all about cars, group types, etc etc suggests that it’s not something you should be doing.

The vast majority of drivers/co-pilots have been following rally’s for years, most come from a rallying background and so have first hand knowledge before ever sitting behind the wheel of a rally car.

It’s not really a case of going out and building or buying a car and entering the next available rally. There is an awful lot of background stuff that you need to have/sort before ever getting on the road.

Inexperience is the most dangerous thing when it comes to rallying.

I have experience with car now rally, I follow rally and auto cross, I have experience with cars as I mechanic, but as I said I don't have the experience in say going about building a rally car, sourcing the material etc is was I don't have experience in..And I know bout whole process of going bout the license etc for rallying, just not what is required on the car so I can do it as handy as possible

endacl

Smehz wrote: »

I have experience with cars as I mechanic

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Smehz wrote: »

just not what is required on the car so I can do it as handy as possible

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Smehz

endacl wrote: »

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😂 I realise how that looks now,

What I mean by that is I wouldn't know what rally specifications are required in a car when building it, ex: roll cage, fireshield at the dash etc

I said I mechanic to show I have experience working on cars etc 😂

Doctors room ghost

Best thing you could do is join your local motorclub and you will find out all you need to know there.its not as simple as building a car and entering it in the next event.you need a competition license and that involves medical and you need a load of signatures to compete.you have to enter and complete a certain number of rally’s as a navigator before you can drive and need approved signatures for same.
You also have to complete training course for navigation and driving and you need to cover half the cars entry and costs in the above.
Also the scrutiny pre events is tight and car preparation has to be professional standard with all seats harnesses overalls boots helmet etc being in date.they have a best before date on them or end of life date more so.
All in it’s huge money.and that’s before normal costs such as tyres fuel gearboxes etc.entry fees and insurance are massive now too

Spook_ie

http://www.motorsportireland.com

Good place to start

J.pilkington

For a start join your local rally club and volunteer to marshal at some events. You will meet some great like minded people, some of whom will have been down the road you aspire to travel(I believe all club members including drivers must marshal each year) .

CiniO

Cee-Jay-Cee wrote: »

To be honest with you, the fact that you haven’t really any idea at all about cars, group types, etc etc suggests that it’s not something you should be doing.

The vast majority of drivers/co-pilots have been following rally’s for years, most come from a rallying background and so have first hand knowledge before ever sitting behind the wheel of a rally car.

It’s not really a case of going out and building or buying a car and entering the next available rally. There is an awful lot of background stuff that you need to have/sort before ever getting on the road.

Inexperience is the most dangerous thing when it comes to rallying.

Indeed it looks that way here.
Rally society in Ireland seem to be quite closed. Very hard to access for someone who is not involved through family, etc....

Should be much easier to join.
Also should be way more simple rallies organised where anyone could participate without much preparation and expensive cars and equipment.

mickdw

Rally sport association is probably easiest way to start.
They run a few events each year. No motorsport licence required. Basically car with roll cage, extinguisher and engine cut off switch needed.

ianobrien

CiniO wrote: »

Indeed it looks that way here.
Rally society in Ireland seem to be quite closed. Very hard to access for someone who is not involved through family, etc....

Should be much easier to join.
Also should be way more simple rallies organised where anyone could participate without much preparation and expensive cars and equipment.

Rallying and Motorsport is far from a closed shop. Its quite simple, you start by joining an affiliated motor club. From that point on, it's a question of how much you are willing to spend.

Insurance (and the lack of companies willing to cover motorsport) is the primary reason for the costs being so high and for the safety equipment.

J.pilkington

CiniO wrote: »

Indeed it looks that way here.
Rally society in Ireland seem to be quite closed. Very hard to access for someone who is not involved through family, etc....

Should be much easier to join.
Also should be way more simple rallies organised where anyone could participate without much preparation and expensive cars and equipment.

Please clarify this statement as I believe it couldn’t be further from the truth. Have you ever joined a motorclub? This involves paying membership and helping / volunteering out at events (prep or marshalling), or are you just whinging for the sake of it because things aren’t as super awesome as Poland.

You should research autocross. You couldn’t find a cheaper motorsport and there are events in every county.

Mayo motor club are a a great club with plenty of decent members some with expensive cars, some with cheap autocross cars and some wth no cars at all. Never heard a bad word about them and they are always looking for members / Marshall’s.