Toyota 1.4 d4d query.

gooner99

Hi.

I've read that the earlier versions of this engine were pretty bullet proof, but what is the 1.4 d4d engine like in the Auris model year 2013+ like? Would it be trouble free of does it suffer the usual diesel issues like dpf, dmf, turbo, chain issues, etc?

Yearly mileage would be approx 30k kms on country a/b roads.

Thanks.

tcawley29

gooner99 wrote: »

Hi.

I've read that the earlier versions of this engine were pretty bullet proof, but what is the 1.4 d4d engine like in the Auris model year 2013+ like? Would it be trouble free of does it suffer the usual diesel issues like dpf, dmf, turbo, chain issues, etc?

Yearly mileage would be approx 30k kms on country a/b roads.

Thanks.

The parents have a '16 one of these for a year or two and no trouble so far

gooner99

tcawley29 wrote: »

The parents have a '16 one of these for a year or two and no trouble so far

Thanks for the reply. What sort of mileage is on it?

gooner99

Anyone else with experience of this engine in the Auris.

We do 30k kms per year currently in a 1.4 petrol golf. The main requirement in a car is reliability. Would the 1.33 D-vvti petrol or 1.4 D4d diesel be the best bet in the new model Auris for this mileage. Want to stick with a manual and smallish engine to insure our 17 year old.

alibab

I have a 152 diesel corolla and I love it . It’s the first car that I am going to keep over 3 years as it’s a dream to drive and very economical. I have had zero issues with it and average 28,000 km a year approx

tcawley29

gooner99 wrote: »

Thanks for the reply. What sort of mileage is on it?

I think it was bought with 16k on it and not its at 30 or 40k. No issues so far

gooner99

alibab wrote: »

I have a 152 diesel corolla and I love it . It’s the first car that I am going to keep over 3 years as it’s a dream to drive and very economical. I have had zero issues with it and average 28,000 km a year approx

Sounds good. Probably better for the bigger mileage than the 1.33 petrol.

gooner99

tcawley29 wrote: »

I think it was bought with 16k on it and not its at 30 or 40k. No issues so far

Thanks again. Sounds good.

gooner99

What's it like to run on fuel?

What are the servicing schedule and costs like?

tcawley29

gooner99 wrote: »

What's it like to run on fuel?

What are the servicing schedule and costs like?

Not exactly sure on mileage but should be good for 50-55mpg anyways. They're very good.

Service schedule would be every 15k km for oil and filters.

Cost would vary depending on where you go. An indie is usually cheaper than a main dealer, unless you catch a sale at the main dealer.

alibab

gooner99 wrote: »

Sounds good. Probably better for the bigger mileage than the 1.33 petrol.

Can I be honest my dad had the petrol version of the exact same car except 161 and I hate it . It is sluggish I find in comparison and I hate driving it when I have too . The too are chalk and cheese to me and if I had the petrol version I would have gotten rid of it by now ,

tcawley29

alibab wrote: »

Can I be honest my dad had the petrol version of the exact same car except 161 and I hate it . It is sluggish I find in comparison and I hate driving it when I have too . The too are chalk and cheese to me and if I had the petrol version I would have gotten rid of it by now ,

The 1.4 diesel corollas are pretty quick for what they are.

gooner99

alibab wrote: »

Can I be honest my dad had the petrol version of the exact same car except 161 and I hate it . It is sluggish I find in comparison and I hate driving it when I have too . The too are chalk and cheese to me and if I had the petrol version I would have gotten rid of it by now ,

Thanks. Had driven both on short test drives. Yeah found the diesel had a bit more power. I was just a bit weary of a diesel with all the horror stories. But it does seem that the 1.4 d4d is a pretty reliable engine once looked after.

gooner99

tcawley29 wrote: »

Not exactly sure on mileage but should be good for 50-55mpg anyways. They're very good.

Service schedule would be every 15k km for oil and filters.

Cost would vary depending on where you go. An indie is usually cheaper than a main dealer, unless you catch a sale at the main dealer.

That's good real world mpg. Service schedule sounds reasonable, same as what I'm used to with the Golf. I do hear offers on the radio from time to time for used car servicing offers for Toyota.

Petyr Baelish

You might want to consider a Hyundai i30 1.6 CRDI, solid engine and arguably a better car than the Auris.

gooner99

Petyr Baelish wrote: »

You might want to consider a Hyundai i30 1.6 CRDI, solid engine and arguably a better car than the Auris.

Yeah, heard they were also good. But I'd imagine insurance would be more expensive when adding a 17 year old.

Petyr Baelish

gooner99 wrote: »

Yeah, heard they were also good. But I'd imagine insurance would be more expensive when adding a 17 year old.

Yeah the Hyundai has a bit more power so it might make a difference but you never know with insurance companies how they work these things out.

gooner99

Petyr Baelish wrote: »

Yeah the Hyundai has a bit more power so it might make a difference but you never know with insurance companies how they work these things out.

Yeah they can be a mystery and no two are the same. I did ask about and it seems they go on engine size and power. So even 1.0 high powered turbo may also be prohibited for younger drivers. He's not 17 till next year and we need to change now, so no way of knowing for sure what they would quote. Maybe I can ask them for a guide price.

chicorytip

gooner99 wrote:

We do 30k kms per year currently in a 1.4 petrol golf. The main requirement in a car is reliability. Would the 1.33 D-vvti petrol or 1.4 D4d diesel be the best bet in the new model Auris for this mileage. Want to stick with a manual and smallish engine to insure our 17 year old.

The diesel, certainly, for fuel economy. Both are very reliable engines. The newer 1.2 litre petrol is much better in terms of performance.

gooner99

chicorytip wrote: »

The diesel, certainly, for fuel economy. Both are very reliable engines. The newer 1.2 litre petrol is much better in terms of performance.

Thanks. Wonder how the 1.2T is performing in the real world in terms of fuel economy. I'd imagine they are nice to drive and reliable being a Toyota petrol engine. But I do fear that these small turbo engines are running to the max a lot of the time, so may not be robust long term.

gooner99

Any experience with the 1.6 V-matic engine?

Can be got for keen prices in the North/UK.
Seems to have decent power and economy. And I think the tax is still only €280.

chicorytip

gooner99 wrote:

Thanks. Wonder how the 1.2T is performing in the real world in terms of fuel economy. I'd imagine they are nice to drive and reliable being a Toyota petrol engine. But I do fear that these small turbo engines are running to the max a lot of the time, so may not be robust long term.

Buying a car with a small diesel engine still makes a lot of sense, certainly in terms of running costs, so the D4D is probably the best option for you.

JohnBoy26

gooner99 wrote: »

Any experience with the 1.6 V-matic engine?

Can be got for keen prices in the North/UK.
Seems to have decent power and economy. And I think the tax is still only €280.

Very good engine and they have a better suspension setup to most auris's.

colm_mcm

Does the 1.6 get IRS John?

JohnBoy26

colm_mcm wrote: »

Does the 1.6 get IRS John?

It does indeed.

Leonard Hofstadter

Only ones that don't are the 1.33 and the 1.4 diesel.

tcawley29

Whats IRS?

bazz26

Independent Rear Suspension.

JohnBoy26

captainspeed wrote: »

Only ones that don't are the 1.33 and the 1.4 diesel.

Which is nearly all of the irish ones. The 1.6 valvematic is very rare here and was only available in auto. The uk got the 1.6 valvematic with a manual gearbox which is the one to go for imo.