The M50, is it really that bad?

P_1

So apparently a fist fight broke out northbound on the M50 today...

http://www.thejournal.ie/m50-public-order-incident-4026869-May2018/?utm_source=facebook_short

What is it about one road that seems to bring out the absolute eejit in people?

Jimmy Dags

It’s totally unsuitable for Lance Armstrong wannabes.

Your Face

A disagreement between certain groups perhaps.

Samuel T. Cogley

Finally someone decided to knock some sense into the cohort of bell-ends that drive in the centre lane?

Conservatory

I find there’s a lot more beeping than usual these days. And people that don’t understand you can’t turn left if the green light is just a forward arrow you have to wait for a full light.

Samuel T. Cogley

Conservatory wrote: »

I find there’s a lot more beeping than usual these days. And people that don’t understand you can’t turn left if the green light is just a forward arrow you have to wait for a full light.

Not entirely sure there are many filters on the M50 :pac:

verycool

Samuel T. Cogley wrote: »

Finally someone decided to knock some sense into the cohort of bell-ends that drive in the centre lane?

Not many people "going forward", eh? :pac:

Atlantic Dawn

A second man was also injured in the incident, which happened after 6pm this evening, but left the scene in a silver Kia Sedona.

I'd have left the scene sharpish too if I was driving a Kia Sedona.

VonZan

In fairness the M50 would drive anyone mad. I pity those that have to commute a decent stretch of it everyday.

Yer Da sells Avon

That's really annoying - they're blocking the undertaking lane.

Jimmy Dags

The fast lane is where it’s at.

alchemist33

For a "motorway", it's got a slow speed limit. I don't like it much

uck51js9zml2yt

Just listen to Joe tomorrow and it will all be explained

Pac1Man

I'll be staying out of this one boss.

Larbre34

alchemist33 wrote: »

For a "motorway", it's got a slow speed limit. I don't like it much

Its about to get lower, at certain times.

PARlance

Atlantic Dawn wrote: »

I'd have left the scene sharpish too if I was driving a Kia Sedona.

You would have left at a moderate speed at best

Ah the Ballymount/Red Cow section, enough to send anyone over the edge.

Atoms for Peace

Jimmy Dags wrote: »

The fast lane is where it’s at.

That what I pay the road tax for.;)

arybvtcw0eolkf

Atoms for Peace wrote: »

That what I pay the road tax for.;)

I'll bite.. 'Motor' tax :pac:

Yer Da sells Avon

Jimmy Dags wrote: »

The fast lane is where it’s at.

*extreme nasal voice* Well actually, that's not what it's...

P_1

Aubrey Whispering Leg wrote: »

I'll bite.. 'Motor' tax :pac:

It looked like a tasty bbq brisket on the outside, alas the meat was rotten at the core :P

ButtersSuki

Luka Deafening Cream wrote: »

Just listen to Joe tomorrow and it will all be explained

Joe is starting his 4th week of holidays this year today (!) so you’ll have to tune in elsewhere for coverage of this.....

heebusjeebus

https://www.independent.ie/irish-news/man-seriously-injured-after-number-of-people-involved-in-altercation-on-m50-36932664.html

between members of the same family

FFS

theyoungchap

From Dublin and Longford - Pavee Point are preparing a statement.

Mrcaramelchoc

Samuel T. Cogley wrote: »

Finally someone decided to knock some sense into the cohort of bell-ends that drive in the centre lane?

I don't drive so what's wrong with people in the centre lane?isnt the m50 three lanes therefore people can get by you no problem?

circadian

The amount of times I see people merging while they're on the phone is staggering.

ButtersSuki

Mrcaramelchoc wrote: »

I don't drive so what's wrong with people in the centre lane?isnt the m50 three lanes therefore people can get by you no problem?

I'm just off to get some popcorn for this.......:pac:

greencap

Always feels like risking your life driving on that road.

Ok technically that's all roads, but the m50 is the one that has most often caused me to think 'yep almost died today'.

ChikiChiki

Hapax Legomenon wrote: »

That's really annoying - they're blocking the undertaking lane.

Tis a great lane in fairness. Pure open road.

YFlyer

ButtersSuki wrote: »

Joe is starting his 4th week of holidays this year today (!) so you’ll have to tune in elsewhere for coverage of this.....

Red FM.

Chesty08

Mrcaramelchoc wrote: »

I don't drive so what's wrong with people in the centre lane?isnt the m50 three lanes therefore people can get by you no problem?

This is exactly the problem.

Basically centre lane drivers think the other drivers can just simply undertake and overtake them which causes 99% of the knock off effects of congestion

ChikiChiki

High chance it was travellers fighting on the M50?

Mrcaramelchoc

Chesty08 wrote: »

This is exactly the problem.

Basically centre lane drivers think the other drivers can just simply undertake and overtake them which causes 99% of the knock off effects of congestion

Ahh i see.
not much need for popcorn really is there.just a simple question.

Auguste Comte

ChikiChiki wrote: »

High chance it was travellers fighting on the M50?

Isn't everyone on the m50 travelling somewhere. (usually very slowly).

Badly Drunk Boy

Jimmy Dags wrote: »

It’s totally unsuitable for Lance Armstrong wannabes.

Druggies?

topper75

theyoungchap wrote: »

From Dublin and Longford - Pavee Point are preparing a statement.

Ironically, the fix for this and many other such issues is ... equal treatment.

SEPT 23 1989

Another day another disgrace

Samuel T. Cogley

Mrcaramelchoc wrote: »

I don't drive so what's wrong with people in the centre lane?isnt the m50 three lanes therefore people can get by you no problem?

YOU F... only kidding.

The idea of multilane motorways is to ease traffic congestion. By pulling out straight into the centre lane people defeat the whole point of a three lane motorway. You're not alone though, even amongst 'experienced' drivers who think you join in the inner lane, drive in the middle and pass in the outer lane.

What you're meant to do is drive in the inner lane with overtaking in the other two lanes to maximise the capacity of the road. What happens here wastes the capacity of the inner lane between junctions. It's not really an issue at peak times (it's a car park) but it's key just before and just after peak times to keep the road moving at 100KPH.

When you compare it to the joy of driving in somewhere like France where practically everyone is doing the same speed and only use the overtaking lanes for exactly that - overtaking - you realise how terrible Irish motorway driving is.

The M50 needs to be a 'managed motorway' with the hard shoulder opening for normal traffic at peak times and variable speed limits. That will really fecking confuse the knobheads who can't drive on it currently.

Mint Sauce

It's not the M50 that's bad. It's the drivers that are using it.

Petyr Baelish

It's their culture.

Samuel T. Cogley

At least they were fecking traveling for once.

Conservatory

To fix the middle lane driving first we must teach people how to drive in the driving lane so that they leave a gap for merging.
For them to agree to learn we have to teach the people in the driving lane to drive at a normal speed. The exits are too close together to compare them with other motorways you may have been on in France.
You get on the motorway at 50km/h because the fella on the ramp jammed on because either nobody let him out or he just bottled it. Then you get up to speed to end up behind somebody doing 50 because they are rattled from their merging experience or because motorways are too fast.
So you overtake to the middle lane after 5 minutes of cars behind you pulling into the middle lane and overtaking you and not letting you merge and see a line of 15 cars all driving at 50 in the driving lane nose to bumper behind some nervous looking nelly.
You then say feck that I’m not going back in there.
At that time I drive to overtaking lane and drive as fast as practical until I’m met by some eejit driving the same speed as the fella in the middle lane.
If the undertake is on I might take it but usually I sigh ad then slowly drift back to the driving lane and sit there at 50 leaving space. Every eejit does the same and fills the space between me and the car in front because it’s the only space in the driving lane.
Then I repeat it all again until exit.

magentis

Always wondered.

Is the M50 the same as what they would call a turnpikey in the US of A?

Samuel T. Cogley

Turnpike was a toll from what I recall.

GhostyMcGhost

Conservatory wrote: »

I find there’s a lot more beeping than usual these days. And people that don’t understand you can’t turn left if the green light is just a forward arrow you have to wait for a full light.

Or the opposite, green circle, coast clear yet they wait for a filter light

Samuel T. Cogley

GhostyMcGhost wrote: »

Or the opposite, green circle, coast clear yet they wait for a filter light

Don't get me started on right turns at box junctions. This is another thing that people completely forget. The car in the yellow box has right of way to turn even once the lights have gone green for people at his 3 or 9 o'clock.

However that rarely comes up on the M50 thankfully.

eagle eye

I've never had any issues on the M50 but I wouldn't use it that often. I don't like it though, the 100k speed limit is annoying on a multi-lane road.

NickNickleby

magentis wrote: »

Always wondered.

Is the M50 the same as what they would call a turnpikey in the US of A?

hehehehe, please tell me this isn't a typo, cos its brilliant!

Cash_Q

Conservatory wrote:

To fix the middle lane driving first we must teach people how to drive in the driving lane so that they leave a gap for merging. For them to agree to learn we have to teach the people in the driving lane to drive at a normal speed. The exits are too close together to compare them with other motorways you may have been on in France. You get on the motorway at 50km/h because the fella on the ramp jammed on because either nobody let him out or he just bottled it. Then you get up to speed to end up behind somebody doing 50 because they are rattled from their merging experience or because motorways are too fast. So you overtake to the middle lane after 5 minutes of cars behind you pulling into the middle lane and overtaking you and not letting you merge and see a line of 15 cars all driving at 50 in the driving lane nose to bumper behind some nervous looking nelly. You then say feck that I’m not going back in there. At that time I drive to overtaking lane and drive as fast as practical until I’m met by some eejit driving the same speed as the fella in the middle lane. If the undertake is on I might take it but usually I sigh ad then slowly drift back to the driving lane and sit there at 50 leaving space. Every eejit does the same and fills the space between me and the car in front because it’s the only space in the driving lane. Then I repeat it all again until exit.

This x 1000000

fleet_admiral

I cross it twice a day from templeogue to tallaght and I need see a councillor

ohnonotgmail

fleet_admiral wrote: »

I cross it twice a day from templeogue to tallaght and I need see a councillor

part-timer