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Cuban aircraft crash

  • 18-05-2018 5:39pm
    #1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,033 ✭✭✭


    On CNN now. Seems to happened on take off. 104 people onboard


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,203 ✭✭✭PukkaStukka




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,296 ✭✭✭✭Oscar Bravo


    The Mexican Ministry of Communications and Transportation is confirming the aircraft involved in the crash to be XA-UHZ, a 737-200.


  • Users Awaiting Email Confirmation Posts: 1,331 ✭✭✭J.pilkington


    100+ confirmed dead.

    Looks like it was wet leased from a Mexican firm for an internal Cubana flight which would make sense as Cubana don’t have any Boeing planes


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 1,201 ✭✭✭Doltanian


    The plane was almost 40 years old, The blood of these people is on the hands of successive US administrations with their embargo and the EU who also prevent airbus from selling to these countries because of US made components.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,163 ✭✭✭EchoIndia


    Doltanian wrote: »
    The plane was almost 40 years old, The blood of these people is on the hands of successive US administrations with their embargo and the EU who also prevent airbus from selling to these countries because of US made components.


    Where the evidence that aircraft age was a factor in this accident?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 645 ✭✭✭faoiarvok


    Doltanian wrote: »
    The plane was almost 40 years old, The blood of these people is on the hands of successive US administrations with their embargo and the EU who also prevent airbus from selling to these countries because of US made components.

    But it was a US-built airplane....?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,015 ✭✭✭Pat Dunne


    Doltanian wrote: »
    The plane was almost 40 years old, The blood of these people is on the hands of successive US administrations with their embargo and the EU who also prevent airbus from selling to these countries because of US made components.

    Before you jump to any conclusions Doltanian. The craft is a Mexican owned Boeing 737-200, with a Mexician crew of 6, operating under lease in Cuba and not subject to the US embargo.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,525 ✭✭✭kona


    Doltanian wrote: »
    The plane was almost 40 years old, The blood of these people is on the hands of successive US administrations with their embargo and the EU who also prevent airbus from selling to these countries because of US made components.

    No, no its not.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,712 ✭✭✭roundymac


    According to the Sunday Independent there has been safety issues with the Mexican leasing company before.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,688 ✭✭✭✭mickdw


    Searching the aircraft registration, it seems to be no 7 on a list of oldest flying commercial aircraft. Of the 6 older, 1 is marked stored and 2 are cargo 747.
    That cannot be a good situation. Add in leasing companies from poorer parts of the world and you have a receipe for disaster.


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  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 1,201 ✭✭✭Doltanian


    They lease in because they are prevented from buying themselves; there was similar crashes in Iran in the past due to decrepit aging planes due to the economic sanctions.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,203 ✭✭✭PukkaStukka


    Doltanian wrote: »
    They lease in because they are prevented from buying themselves; there was similar crashes in Iran in the past due to decrepit aging planes due to the economic sanctions.

    You've already been told that the aircraft involved was Mexican, and there is no evidence whatsoever that any part of this accident is attributable to economic sanctions.

    Is your grievance here technical or political...?

    And as an aside, many of the Iranian crashes concerned Russian built aircraft with whom the Iranians were trading freely, and nor was there any embargo on spares


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,525 ✭✭✭kona


    Doltanian wrote: »
    They lease in because they are prevented from buying themselves; there was similar crashes in Iran in the past due to decrepit aging planes due to the economic sanctions.
    Probably shouldnt have planted soviet icbms and played with the big boys.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,133 ✭✭✭View Profile


    kona wrote:
    Probably shouldnt have planted soviet icbms and played with the big boys.


    Probably shouldn't have led a botched invasion of Cuba in 1961.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,525 ✭✭✭kona


    Probably shouldn't have led a botched invasion of Cuba in 1961.

    Probably shouldnt have wrote cheques their ass or their sugar daddy couldnt cash.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 71,186 ✭✭✭✭L1011


    Politics Cafe is elsewhere...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 392 ✭✭Skyknight


    The aircraft was 737-201 XA-UHZ
    msn:21816/592
    First flight :15. Jul 1979
    Delivered to Piedmont on 7th Aug 1979 as N769N


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