Isn't the weather grand?

Olsky

I tried to get a debate going in the weather forum about the Irish obsession with talking about the weather but am outnumbered. Could do with some backup.

Kristopherus

There will be more of it tomorrow, and the day after, and the day after, and the day after...............

greenflash

Better than the 800 years of crap weather we had under the Brits. Free the cloudy 6. #britsout #freepalestine #jft96

Olsky

The forum is Heavy Rain Sunday/Monday

xabi

Its a weather forum, that's what they like to talk about. Shocker, some people have different interests than me.

Franz Von Peppercorn

Everyday with the weather. New weather. When’s it going to stop?

Olsky

xabi wrote: »

Its a weather forum, that's what they like to talk about. Shocker, some people have different interests than me.

Precisely why the discussion should take place there. Tired of having to spend time listening to people that are obsessed with talking about the weather.

Sam Quentin

Why do they call it 'small talk'?
Shir it's the most important thing in life.
Some people would make you feel guilty chatting about it.

Franz Von Peppercorn

Olsky wrote: »

Precisely why the discussion should take place there. Tired of having to spend time listening to people that are obsessed with talking about the weather.

It never wastes much of my time.

“Nice weather”.

Yes. Lovely.

“Crap weather”

Yeh, I’m soaked.

Sometimes I might add the additional “sunny at the weekend” or “looks like rain Sunday”.

Then we move on from each other, or to another topic.

ytpe2r5bxkn0c1

I never got the Irish obsession with talking about the weather. Extreme events fair enough but going on about it being wet or windy in March is pure nonsense. Or those who persist about how cold or windy it is when the rest of us think it's a fine day. Then those who live to areas renown for wet windy Atlantic weather fronts and complain about the weather they get there. It's Ireland, we have a mild wet climate. Get over it.

splinter65

greenflash wrote: »

Better than the 800 years of crap weather we had under the Brits. Free the cloudy 6. #britsout #freepalestine #jft96

#wengerbackin

dxhound2005

We could be doin' with a bit of rain.

AllForIt

It should be grand. We're 2 weeks away from 1st June (Summer).

splinter65

dxhound2005 wrote: »

We could be doin' with a bit of rain.

It’ll keep the dirt down at least

Your Face

Sure, look it.

0lddog

With the stretch in the evenings we dont know ourselves.

Do you think it will last ?

Sam Quentin

It's warm ohhhh but you can feel the cold comin.

Wildcard7

To be fair there's a lot of weather in Ireland. Sometimes there are all weathers in a day. I've seen days when there were at least 4 different weathers in the same hour. Or sometimes you look up and there's one weather, but it's not the weather you're actually experiencing right now down here, and then when you turn and look north there's another weather.

It's all a bit mad really.

Pherekydes

Kristopherus wrote: »

There will be more of it tomorrow, and the day after, and the day after, and the day after...............

But the Day After Tomorrow is supposed to be really, really bad. Stay in out of the storm and burn anything to stay warm! :eek:

Olsky

Well. The weather obsessives got all my contributions on weather forum deleted.
Gist was questioning why the Irish talk about the weather so much. Seems to be the main subject of conversation here and personally I find it boring.

Grayson

Olsky wrote: »

Well. The weather obsessives got all my contributions on weather forum deleted.
Gist was questioning why the Irish talk about the weather so much. Seems to be the main subject of conversation here and personally I find it boring.

Everyday it gives us something else to talk about.

Olsky

Grayson wrote: »

Everyday it gives us something else to talk about.

It does. But it actually makes many conversations inane, pointless and very dull. I know that smalltalk is supposed to be safe and non controversial but the Irish take it too far.
The thread on the weather forum was on whether or not it might rain on Sunday which would be a common enough conversation topic in Ireland.
Just saying that I am bored senseless from having to listen to such conversations.
And it's not even future weather that people spend this time on like "It might rain later" or "It might be colder next week" It is often the current weather. "grand day" "it's colder today" "the rain is quite heavy" What is the point of stating the obvious in a safe bland way. What does it add to human interaction and discourse

And I don't mean the use of such remarks as conversation openers. I mean whole discourses full of such inanities.

Graces7

Olsky wrote: »

It does. But it actually makes many conversations inane, pointless and very dull. I know that smalltalk is supposed to be safe and non controversial but the Irish take it too far.
The thread on the weather forum was on whether or not it might rain on Sunday which would be a common enough conversation topic in Ireland.
Just saying that I am bored senseless from having to listen to such conversations.
And it's not even future weather that people spend this time on like "It might rain later" or "It might be colder next week" It is often the current weather. "grand day" "it's colder today" "the rain is quite heavy" What is the point of stating the obvious in a safe bland way. What does it add to human interaction and discourse

And I don't mean the use of such remarks as conversation openers. I mean whole discourses full of such inanities.

AHEM! That is why it is called the WEATHER FORUM....

Olsky

:pac:

Graces7 wrote: »

AHEM! That is why it is called the WEATHER FORUM....

AHEM. I'm not talking about the weather forum. I'm talking about Ireland and the Irish.

dxhound2005

In the past a common topic was how the forecasters got it wrong. But that doesn't happen now because the forecasts are so accurate.

Olsky

Franz Von Peppercorn wrote: »

It never wastes much of my time.

“Nice weather”.

Yes. Lovely.

“Crap weather”

Yeh, I’m soaked.

Sometimes I might add the additional “sunny at the weekend” or “looks like rain Sunday”.

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dxhound2005 wrote: »

We could be doin' with a bit of rain.

AllForIt wrote: »

It should be grand. We're 2 weeks away from 1st June (Summer).

splinter65 wrote: »

It’ll keep the dirt down at least

0lddog wrote: »

With the stretch in the evenings we dont know ourselves.

Do you think it will last ?

Sam Quentin wrote: »

It's warm ohhhh but you can feel the cold comin.

Wildcard7 wrote: »

To be fair there's a lot of weather in Ireland. Sometimes there are all weathers in a day. I've seen days when there were at least 4 different weathers in the same hour. Or sometimes you look up and there's one weather, but it's not the weather you're actually experiencing right now down here, and then when you turn and look north there's another weather.

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Very ironic that a thread that was intended as a discussion on why the Irish are obsessed with talking about the weather has become diverted into a thread of Irish people talking about the weather.

dxhound2005

I thought you were being ironic. Anyway there is no obsession in Ireland with the weather. It is just a part of normal conversation.

Olsky

dxhound2005 wrote: »

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Anyway there is no obsession in Ireland with the weather. It is just a part of normal conversation.

Believe me. I have lived in many countries and there is. Irish people obsess and talk about the weather to and inordinate degree. And arguing that the obsession with weather talk is justified because the weather is "changable" doesn't really explain it. Lots of other countries have changable weather. People there just choose to spend there time discussing other things.

dxhound2005

Think of another word to describe the phenomenon, because it is not obsession.

obsession (əbˈsɛʃən)
n
1. (Psychiatry) psychiatry a persistent idea or impulse that continually forces its way into consciousness, often associated with anxiety and mental illness
2. a persistent preoccupation, idea, or feeling
3. the act of obsessing or the state of being obsessed

Olsky

dxhound2005 wrote: »

Think of another word to describe the phenomenon, because it is not obsession.

obsession (əbˈsɛʃən)
n
1. (Psychiatry) psychiatry a persistent idea or impulse that continually forces its way into consciousness, often associated with anxiety and mental illness
2. a persistent preoccupation, idea, or feeling
3. the act of obsessing or the state of being obsessed

I think the word obsession is completely accurate.
Bear in mind that I am observing this phenomenon as an outsider.

Graces7

Olsky wrote: »

:pac:

AHEM. I'm not talking about the weather forum. I'm talking about Ireland and the Irish.

Oh OK. But believe me, we in England are even worse for talking about the weather so it does not seem very bad here; the talk I mean not the weather...

Was on the weather forum and there seemed some disconnnected posts along the same lines as here that were non sequitur...

Franz Von Peppercorn

Olsky wrote: »

It does. But it actually makes many conversations inane, pointless and very dull. I know that smalltalk is supposed to be safe and non controversial but the Irish take it too far.
The thread on the weather forum was on whether or not it might rain on Sunday which would be a common enough conversation topic in Ireland.
Just saying that I am bored senseless from having to listen to such conversations.
And it's not even future weather that people spend this time on like "It might rain later" or "It might be colder next week" It is often the current weather. "grand day" "it's colder today" "the rain is quite heavy" What is the point of stating the obvious in a safe bland way. What does it add to human interaction and discourse

And I don't mean the use of such remarks as conversation openers. I mean whole discourses full of such inanities.

That never happens. Conversations about weather are conversation openers. That’s all.

Franz Von Peppercorn

Olsky wrote: »

Very ironic that a thread that was intended as a discussion on why the Irish are obsessed with talking about the weather has become diverted into a thread of Irish people talking about the weather.

It’s diverted into people answering your claim that all we do is talk about the weather. We don’t. And the post you quoted from me wasn’t talking about the weather, it was explaining how the maximum amount of time I’ve ever spoken about the weather is 20 seconds.

I think you wanted everybody here to agree with you, but hey that’s the internet for ya.

Olsky

Graces7 wrote: »

Was on the weather forum and there seemed some disconnnected posts along the same lines as here that were non sequitur...

Suppose it was a bit like trying to start a debate on the existence of God on the Christiany forum. All the sacreligious posts have been deleted so they can get back to the important matter of discussing the prospect of showers on Sunday.

Franz Von Peppercorn

Olsky wrote: »

Suppose it was a bit like trying to start a debate on the existence of God on the Christiany forum. All the sacreligious posts have been deleted so they can get back to the important matter of discussing the prospect of showers on Sunday.

Jesus Christ. It is the weather forum. What exactly were you expecting in a weather forum except talk of the weather. A discussion on the Middle East? Soccer talk? Sexual education?

Olsky

Franz Von Peppercorn wrote: »

That never happens. Conversations about weather are conversation openers. That’s all.

Franz Von Peppercorn wrote: »

It’s diverted into people answering your claim that all we do is talk about the weather. We don’t. And the post you quoted from me wasn’t talking about the weather, it was explaining how the maximum amount of time I’ve ever spoken about the weather is 20 seconds.

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I was being ironic about people trying to be ironic rather than discussing the issue. Fair enough if people just use weather talk to break the ice and open conversation but this is often not the case. Had breakfast with some Irish work colleagues yesterday and the whole thing was taken up with inane weather talk and this would be typical enough. Maybe ye don't realize just how much ye time ye devote to weather talk.

Graces7

Olsky wrote: »

Suppose it was a bit like trying to start a debate on the existence of God on the Christiany forum. All the sacreligious posts have been deleted so they can get back to the important matter of discussing the prospect of showers on Sunday.

I guessed that ! lol... ah well....

Olsky

Franz Von Peppercorn wrote: »

Jesus Christ. It is the weather forum. What exactly were you expecting in a weather forum except talk of the weather.

Well to be pedantic discussing why the Irish talk about the weather so much is in fact a discussion about weather.

Graces7

Olsky wrote: »

I was being ironic about people trying to be ironic rather than discussing the issue. Fair enough if people just use weather talk to break the ice and open conversation but this is often not the case. Had breakfast with some Irish work colleagues yesterday and the whole thing was taken up with inane weather talk and this would be typical enough. Maybe ye don't realize just how much ye time ye devote to weather talk.

Maybe this is more of an English idea than Irish, but in England , the weather is a safe topic that can be talked about without being controversial or confrontational or emotional. We English tend to be wary of talking about anything deeper than the weather in public.

Here the chat starts and often ends with a comment re the weather in the same way ... how soon it goes on to other things depends on how comfortable the folk are with each other

ytpe2r5bxkn0c1

Olsky wrote: »

Well to be pedantic discussing why the Irish talk about the weather so much is in fact a discussion about weather.

That I have to agree with but they are very touchy about opinions on the weather. It's one of those forums where you dare not question, let alone disagree with, the group think.

Graces7

Olsky wrote: »

Well to be pedantic discussing why the Irish talk about the weather so much is in fact a discussion about weather.

They told him that in no uncertain terms.. https://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=2057872797

see posts 8 onwards

RiderOnTheStorm

Everyone complains about the weather, but no-one does anything about.

Olsky

Graces7 wrote: »

Maybe this is more of an English idea than Irish, but in England , the weather is a safe topic that can be talked about without being controversial or confrontational or emotional. We English tend to be wary of talking about anything deeper than the weather in public.
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Could be something in that. Kinda sad though if people feel that they have to resort to weather talk to avoid giving an opinion.

Franz Von Peppercorn

Olsky wrote: »

Could be something in that. Kinda sad though if people feel that they have to resort to weather talk to avoid giving an opinion.

Small talk isn’t about giving opinions. That’s large talk.

ytpe2r5bxkn0c1

Franz Von Peppercorn wrote: »

Small talk isn’t about giving opinions. That’s large talk.

Indeed. Giving opinions is usually 'all talk'.

Rows Grower

Grand weather in all fairness.

Olsky

Rows Grower wrote: »

Grand weather in all fairness.

Remarks like that which have no meaning and convey no information are very common. Now maybe there is a point in using such inanities instead of something like "hi" or ""good morning" which is fine, but I have witnessed whole conversations here that are comprised solely of such meaningless pointless talk.

Franz Von Peppercorn

Olsky wrote: »

Remarks like that which have no meaning and convey no information are very common. Now maybe there is a point in using such inanities instead of something like "hi" or ""good morning" which is fine, but I have witnessed whole conversations here that are comprised solely of such meaningless pointless talk.

What exactly do you want? People have these conversations with people they don’t know very well. Suggestion: get to know people better.

Olsky

Franz Von Peppercorn wrote: »

What exactly do you want? People have these conversations with people they don’t know very well. Suggestion: get to know people better.

Well. Maybe having these types of conversations prevents people from getting to know others better. I am merely making observations. Like that personally i find having to listen to such conversations to be pointless and boring. Opinions and getting to know what people think on the other hand can be very interesting. Just that with some people it is practically impossible to get beyond the weather smalltalk.

Rows Grower

Another great day today.

We don't know ourselves.

Harry Palmr

This is the summer I hope you all realise.