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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 16,015 ✭✭✭✭James Brown

    The bailout didn't rescue the country from poverty, it rescued the country from bankruptcy.

    If the country was bankrupt, that would have caused poverty when salary and welfare cheques bounced, but it never came to that.

    Ireland actually negotiated the crash without widening the gap between rich and poor - our Gini co-efficient hovered between 30 and 35 all the way from 2004-2014.

    Agreed, I never said 'the bailout rescued the country from poverty'. That's a nonsense.
    As regards the gap between rich and poor, in Dublin for example, 'at risk of poverty' and 'consistent poverty' rates were higher in 2016 than they were in 2011. I certainly wouldn't suggest poverty had been avoided, when it actually grew.

    At Risk of Poverty Rate (%) 9.5
    Deprivation Rate (%) 22.4
    Consistent Poverty Rate (%) 4.0

    At Risk of Poverty Rate (%) 12.1
    Deprivation Rate (%) 20.7
    Consistent Poverty Rate (%) 7.8

    Again, the point is if people have/are suffering through paying for a bailout and the ongoing pursuit of policy which doesn't seem to be working for everybody, paying for a United Ireland won't be any harder a sell. I would suggest many will feel it's worth the price, whatever that may work out to be.

  • Registered Users Posts: 18,921 ✭✭✭✭BonnieSituation

    It's amazing to see some of the nonsense that Unionusts believe about the presence of Nationalists in the North:
    Not for the first time Malachy Scott (‘British sovereignty over the Irish is the real issue,’ June 5) spouts the same old theme regarding British sovereignty over Irish people in Northern Ireland and asks the question; how would loyalists react to Irish sovereignty over unionists? Like their co-religionists following partition in the South they would accept it and settle down to become good loyal citizens of the state.
    Perhaps if nationalists had behaved likewise in the North, unionists would have had a lot more empathy with their situation.

    AC Thompson, Dungannon

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