JSB and moving abroad?

jamesf85

Hey all,

Just a quick one for those that may have done this or those that are just incredibly knowledgable :cool:

I was recently made redundant and have signed on. I'm still awaiting my first payment and the department decided that I was also entitled to 2 weeks back pay, which would be 4 weeks in total.

Anyway, today I was offered an interview in London for early next week, the field that I qualified in has loads of work over there but not so much here. What I'm wondering is, how do I go about applying to carry over my JobSeekers Benefit to England up until I get back into employment. I understand you need to be in receipt for at least 4 weeks, does the 2 back dated weeks count?

It's just I'd prefer not to come off JSB as I can't really afford to if I don't get this job, but I would also like to try and line up interviews with other jobs while I'm over there and not have to come back home just to sign on. maybe all of thaty isn't possible and I'm being unrealistic, just wondering what people on here think?

Maewyn Succat

jamesf85 wrote: »

Hey all,

Just a quick one for those that may have done this or those that are just incredibly knowledgable :cool:

I was recently made redundant and have signed on. I'm still awaiting my first payment and the department decided that I was also entitled to 2 weeks back pay, which would be 4 weeks in total.

Anyway, today I was offered an interview in London for early next week, the field that I qualified in has loads of work over there but not so much here. What I'm wondering is, how do I go about applying to carry over my JobSeekers Benefit to England up until I get back into employment. I understand you need to be in receipt for at least 4 weeks, does the 2 back dated weeks count?

It's just I'd prefer not to come off JSB as I can't really afford to if I don't get this job, but I would also like to try and line up interviews with other jobs while I'm over there and not have to come back home just to sign on. maybe all of thaty isn't possible and I'm being unrealistic, just wondering what people on here think?

Surely it's not possible to do this?
There is something very wrong if a person is allowed to get taxpayers money from the Irish government to live in another country looking for a job there. Isn't that just a risk a person takes when they emigrate?

jamesf85

Maewyn Succat wrote: »

Surely it's not possible to do this?
There is something very wrong if a person is allowed to get taxpayers money from the Irish government to live in another country looking for a job there. Isn't that just a risk a person takes when they emigrate?

Is it not why people pat PRSI? I mean, surely it's better me actively searching for employment in an area I'm qualified rather than waiting here and being unemployed for longer?

Reality is, if I can't access this then I won't be able to afford to go over for any longer than the initial interview

Tell me how

JSB is only payable while looking for work (for a max period of approx 244 days (if full stamps entitlement)). It's not a saving scheme that's guaranteed to come back to you.

jamesf85

Tell me how wrote: »

JSB is only payable while looking for work. It's not a saving scheme that's guaranteed to come back to you.

what? Nowhere did I mention is it a savings scheme? PRSI contributions are what qualify you for jobseekers benefit, I have the required amount...I'm not sure how you arrived at the conclusion I said that was a savings scheme.

I've been working for the past 12 years, I'm now unemployed and looking for work, there are little to no jobs available on this island in the area I'm qualified.

I understand that you can still be in receipt while looking for a job in a different country so long as it's in the EU. One of the criterias is you need to be in receipt for 4 weeks, I'm waiting my first payment this week and am being backdated 2 weeks, I'm wondering are the backdated weeks included?

Plugguy

http://www.citizensinformation.ie/en/social_welfare/irish_social_welfare_system/claiming_a_social_welfare_payment/going_abroad_and_social_welfare_payments.html

Jobseeker's Benefit (JB) may be transferred to another EEA member state for up to 13 weeks (78 days), if you are looking for work there. You must be getting Jobseeker's Benefit for 4 weeks before you can transfer it to another EEA member state (this requirement can be waived in some instances). From 1 May 2010 new EU Regulations came into effect (pdf) which mean that if you apply to transfer your Jobseeker's Benefit, it will be paid directly to you. If an Increase for a Qualified Adult (IQA) or Increases for Qualified Children (IQC) are being paid you continue to be paid these in the normal way (whether your dependents travel abroad with you or not).

You are still required to register with the employment services of the country where you have gone to look for work within a week. If you are leaving Ireland to move to Northern Ireland or Britain, your Intreo Centre or Social Welfare Branch Office will issue you with the Form U2 (formerly Form E303) which you take to the UK social services. If you are moving to another EU country, the Department of Employment Affairs and Social Protection will send the U2 form to your new address in that EU country. You may transfer your JB payment more than once while you are unemployed provided you do not exceed the maximum period of 13 weeks.

If you are claiming JB, you can claim increases for your qualified adult and children who are living in another EEA member state.

Car99

I don't know the answer but I agree that's one of the reasons you pay prsi so you get a helping hand if you find yourself jobless. Best of luck to you . One Europe so why shouldn't you get it while looking elsewhere in Europe.

There are many getting much more that never paid a cent in prsi.

jamesf85

Thank you Plugguy,


This is the part I'm wondering about,

Plugguy wrote: »

You must be getting Jobseeker's Benefit for 4 weeks before you can transfer it to another EEA member state (this requirement can be waived in some instances).

I made my claim two weeks ago and the department have decided to back date it another 2 weeks. So I'm wonderng does that make it 4 weeks?

I'm not looking to take advantage of the system, if I qualify for this then it would enable me to stay in London longer and search for a job that I'm far more likely to get there quicker.

splinter65

Maewyn Succat wrote: »

Surely it's not possible to do this?
There is something very wrong if a person is allowed to get taxpayers money from the Irish government to live in another country looking for a job there. Isn't that just a risk a person takes when they emigrate?

If this person has made their PRSI contributions then they are entitled to take it aboard in the Eu for 78 days.
What’s the problem?

splinter65

jamesf85 wrote: »

what? Nowhere did I mention is it a savings scheme? PRSI contributions are what qualify you for jobseekers benefit, I have the required amount...I'm not sure how you arrived at the conclusion I said that was a savings scheme.

I've been working for the past 12 years, I'm now unemployed and looking for work, there are little to no jobs available on this island in the area I'm qualified.

I understand that you can still be in receipt while looking for a job in a different country so long as it's in the EU. One of the criterias is you need to be in receipt for 4 weeks, I'm waiting my first payment this week and am being backdated 2 weeks, I'm wondering are the backdated weeks included?

Please pay no attention to the trolls.
Get the forms to take your JSB abroad from your local SW office.
You’re absolutely entitled.

Plugguy

jamesf85 wrote: »

Thank you Plugguy,


This is the part I'm wondering about,


I made my claim two weeks ago and the department have decided to back date it another 2 weeks. So I'm wonderng does that make it 4 weeks?

I'm not looking to take advantage of the system, if I qualify for this then it would enable me to stay in London longer and search for a job that I'm far more likely to get there quicker.

jamesf85, I honestly don't know. It is a very good question.
I hope you will be able to move with your JB.