China to Eurovision: 2 wangs don't make it right

riffmongous

Bit of a tiff at the moment over the Irish entry as a Chinese eurovision broadcaster refuses to show it due to its homosexual performance, Eurovision responds by denying them the right to show the second semi and the final itself.

The EBU (European Broadcasting Union) has tonight announced it has terminated its contract with the Chinese broadcaster Mango TV after it failed to broadcast Ireland's Eurovision entry.

On Tuesday the Chinese broadcaster, part of the second biggest channel in the country, edited out the Irish Eurovision entry over its depiction of a gay relationship.

Ryan O'Shaughnessy performed 'Together', qualifying Ireland for the final for the first time in five years.

Ireland's Eurovision entry has made headlines as the first in the contest's 63 year history to feature a same-sex couple.

China has strict broadcast rules banning any depiction of gay relationships.

Interesting times

bloodless_coup

Good on them.

riffmongous

doylefe wrote: »

Good on them.

Yeah its good to see people sticking to their principles of equality and inclusively, and saying f-you to the money, and the backward morons who believe otherwise

Hitman3000

Who gives a f**k?

riffmongous

Hitman3000 wrote: »

Who gives a f**k?

Oh just around 200 million people each year

That's a truly excellent thread title. I came for the racism, but stayed for the homophobia!

Well done to the EBU, we need more of that kind of thing in public life.

AllForIt

I think this story has a life span of just a few days ....

Edit: Okay, so I got that wrong.

But I have to say that I don't know how the Chinese tv station twigged that the dance routine had homosexual connotations when for a decade every single man you see in the audience at the eurovision is gay, 90%+ anyway. Sometimes it doesn't take one to know one when something is so obvious.

I have to say I though the song was quite good (by eurovision standards i.e. low) and had a good chance to win anyway although it wasn't favourite, but I can't help but think that this controversy makes it a dead cert.

lalababa

China thinks homosexuality is wrong , well feck them ha?

DEFTLEFTHAND

You'd wonder will it be the kind of thing that will cost us votes in the final.

Imagine how certain nationalties will react to it. Over 40 countries are voting.

The_Brood

"This is Eurovision, it's inclusive of every single person."

Gee, is that why eurovision has many conservative-themed and/or religious performances? Or any at all? Funny who the "every single person" definition excludes.

riffmongous

DEFTLEFTHAND wrote: »

You'd wonder will it be the kind of thing that will cost us votes in the final.

Imagine how certain nationalties will react to it. Over 40 countries are voting.

Or it might even get us votes, you'd wonder since Conchita won it a few years back .

Just saw the Indo is saying that the betting odds have shortened dramatically, from 250/1 to 14/1!

irishproduce

There will be a lot of the virtuous all over Europe who will want to be seen to promote the message. Whatever about the shít song.
That to me means votes, loads of em.

Nettle Soup

A great bunch of lads.

Mint Sauce

Nettle Soup wrote: »

A great bunch of lads.

Feck ya! Beat me to it!

Down with that sort of thing.



Just a shame no one started a eurovision thread to discuss all stuff related.

Zubeneschamali

The_Brood wrote: »

"Gee, is that why eurovision has many conservative-themed and/or religious performances?

Maybe sexy high-kicking nuns with suspenders and beards?

riffmongous

Mint Sauce wrote: »

Feck ya! Beat me to it!

Down with that sort of thing.



Just a shame no one started a eurovision thread to discuss all stuff related.

I feel this is a big enough issue to deserve a thread of it's own, so that the main Eurovision thread doesn't get bogged down in social politics..









.. nah I just wanted to use that thread title :pac:

Mint Sauce

irishproduce wrote: »

There will be a lot of the virtuous all over Europe who will want to be seen to promote the message. Whatever about the shít song.
That to me means votes, loads of em.

We dont want to win Eurovision though. Thing will probably bankrupt us!

suicide_circus

Gays in the entertainment industry? I've seen it all now.

VinLieger

The_Brood wrote: »

"This is Eurovision, it's inclusive of every single person."

Gee, is that why eurovision has many conservative-themed and/or religious performances? Or any at all? Funny who the "every single person" definition excludes.

Hilarious victim complex, what would a conservative or religious themed performance even look like?

VinLieger

Mint Sauce wrote: »

We dont want to win Eurovision though. Thing will probably bankrupt us!

Yeah but the swedes are catching up they have 6 wins now

Franz Von Peppercorn

I do like the title here. Job as sub editor in the Sun calling op? Unless you stole it from there.

Fann Linn

The_Brood wrote: »

"This is Eurovision, it's inclusive of every single person."

Gee, is that why eurovision has many conservative-themed and/or religious performances? Or any at all? Funny who the "every single person" definition excludes.

That's the problem. Lack of gee.

riffmongous

suicide_circus wrote: »

Gays in the entertainment industry? I've seen it all now.

Where you been, SC? Entire entertainment industry’s gay, yeah, aerospace too, and the railroads, and you know what else? The George.

jimgoose

Ach, it's a fine barn English, but sure 'tis no two youngfellas holding hands and dancing around the place. <wanders off thoughtfully scratching back of head with wide-brimmed hat>

The_Brood

VinLieger wrote: »

Hilarious victim complex, what would a conservative or religious themed performance even look like?

This response sums up pretty much all of society right now.

One group of people takes offense - "how dare people be bigots!!! We shall never stand for this!"

Another group takes offense - "hilarious victim complex."

major bill

We are 33/1 to win it and I get the feeling we might just do it!!!

Stick your Mortgage on it!!

Nettle Soup

VinLieger wrote: »

Yeah but the swedes are catching up they have 6 wins now

My My.

Do you think Lisbon could be our Waterloo?

riffmongous

The_Brood wrote: »

This response sums up pretty much all of society right now.

One group of people takes offense - "how dare people be bigots!!! We shall never stand for this!"

Another group takes offense - "hilarious victim complex."

Would you say that conservatives are the new gays?

Franz Von Peppercorn

riffmongous wrote: »

Where you been, SC? Entire entertainment industry’s gay, yeah, aerospace too, and the railroads, and you know what else? The George.

I’m told the yearly moustache parade celebrating the YMCA is gay these days. Pride it’s called nowadays. Probably after the U2 song.

jimgoose

riffmongous wrote: »

Would you say that conservatives are the new gays?

I'm a conservative, and I feel quite gay today. It is the weekend after all. Huzzah!! :cool:

begbysback

The irony here is that China have to implement one/two child policies to keep the population down - in 20 years time the will be paying government grants to gay couples.

riffmongous

Franz Von Peppercorn wrote: »

I do like the title here. Job as sub editor in the Sun calling op? Unless you stole it from there.

I would never steal, I'm quite proud of my history of thread titles. They are usually much better than my ****ty OPs

c.p.w.g.w

VinLieger wrote: »

Hilarious victim complex, what would a conservative or religious themed performance even look like?

Certainly wouldn't be suitable for broadcast...And where would you find children willing to participate

4068ac1elhodqr

major bill wrote: »

We are 33/1 to win it and I get the feeling we might just do it!!!

Stick your Mortgage on it!!

Well it's only half those odds in the shops @17 (16/1). But don't ever put more than a few spare notes on the novelty market that is Europop, and certainly not on Ireland to win the whole thing. The song is ok, but tires after repeat listens.

Even when backing the (near-certaintites) value bets of trump & brexit, I'd only ever back them as part of a low-stake mult-line accumulator array.

Sure they'll pick up a few of the 'fingers up to China' votes from the liberal left across the EU, but it's a near impossible task to beat the wacky waving cats of Isr, or the pony tail waving red-hot firestorm that is Cyprus.

Likely finishing place 6/7th at very best.

Your Face

Clem Fandango

VinLieger

The_Brood wrote: »

This response sums up pretty much all of society right now.

One group of people takes offense - "how dare people be bigots!!! We shall never stand for this!"

Another group takes offense - "hilarious victim complex."

Classic..... im really stretching to see it but just cant work out how me saying you have a victim complex equates to me being offended by your ridiculous remarks.

If any country wanted to they could put on a religious or conservative act, again i would love someone to explain what that would look like, but i then bet if it got no votes you'd be crying discrimination again because..... victim complex

irishproduce

On a serious note, we were told we would get this sort of song once the marriage thing got done.
Promotion of being homosexual in pop media and even children's books about homosexual people.
I am not sharing an opinion on the rights and wrongs either way, but the world is going this way, there will be more promotion like this and so China and Russia and the rest of them are either going to not broadcast / publish western materials or they wil change to be more like us.

topper75

Not big on the gay rights the Chinese. Divils for the ould abortion though.

I like that the genuine eyebrow-raiser of a Chinese TV network showing a European song contest to its viewers is arrived at through the 'front door' of the minor gay censorship aspect. Could this be an agenda piece I'm wondering?

I also like the 200 million viewer stat is sourced from the TV stations of Europe, the very same outfits that stage the f**king thing.

jimgoose

irishproduce wrote: »

On a serious note, we were told we would get this sort of song once the marriage thing got done.
Promotion of being homosexual in pop media and even children's books about homosexual people.
I am not sharing an opinion on the rights and wrongs either way, but the world is going this way, there will be more promotion like this and so China and Russia and the rest of them are either going to not broadcast / publish western materials or they wil change to be more like us.

Should we all be gay now, Father?

VinLieger

topper75 wrote: »

I also like the 200 million viewer stat is sourced from the TV stations of Europe, the very same outfits that stage the f**king thing.

Who else would you like to produce the viewing figures? There's no other way to track this across all the countries as there's no cross border equivalent of the US Nielsen system

donegal.

DEFTLEFTHAND wrote: »

You'd wonder will it be the kind of thing that will cost us votes in the final.

Imagine how certain nationalties will react to it. Over 40 countries are voting.

I'm not sure you fully understand the eurovisions demographic

YFlyer

VinLieger wrote: »

Hilarious victim complex, what would a conservative or religious themed performance even look like?

All Kinds of Everything.

conorhal

I'm wholly in favour of editing the gay out of Eurovision.



It would make the program a tolerably watchable 30 minutes.

4068ac1elhodqr

Correction to previous note, Ireland now currently ranked as 3rd fav at 8/1.
This is subject to change (as of 2pm Fri), as we haven't heard some other countries do their thing.

A prime example of how to get ahead in the Eurovision...

VinLieger

DEFTLEFTHAND wrote: »

You'd wonder will it be the kind of thing that will cost us votes in the final.

Imagine how certain nationalties will react to it. Over 40 countries are voting.

You do know its maybe the gayest thing on television yeah? One of the previous winners is transsexual, another is a drag queen with a beard, i think we will be fine

Sonics2k

VinLieger wrote: »

Hilarious victim complex, what would a conservative or religious themed performance even look like?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HPXHRX8Q2hs

jimgoose

Margot Thoughtless Cane wrote: »

...A prime example of how to get ahead in the Eurovision...

I don't think getting banned in China ever did anyone any harm, unless they had the misfortune to live there. :pac:

seamus

DEFTLEFTHAND wrote: »

You'd wonder will it be the kind of thing that will cost us votes in the final.

Imagine how certain nationalties will react to it. Over 40 countries are voting.

Eurovision is probably the most stereotypically homosexual event on the calendar. Maybe coming second to Pride.

Anything which has even a sniff of equal rights about it is a massive vote winner.

This Chinese stunt could even be enough to put us over the top. I might watch the thing now.

murpho999

The_Brood wrote: »

"This is Eurovision, it's inclusive of every single person."

Gee, is that why eurovision has many conservative-themed and/or religious performances? Or any at all? Funny who the "every single person" definition excludes.

They are not responsible for the song entrants that countries send so there should be no issue of religious or conservative themed songs are entered.

That's how being inclusive works.

VinLieger

murpho999 wrote: »

That's how being inclusive works.

Hah not when catholicism is involved, their view of the world is so distorted that they view any removal of their position of privilege as being discriminatory when its really just equalising things

murpho999

VinLieger wrote: »

Hah not when catholicism is involved, their view of the world is so distorted that they view any removal of their position of privilege as being discriminatory when its really just equalising things

Who's view are you talking about it?

It's only a bloody silly song contest.