Disability for Mother in law - British Citizen

clio_16v

My mother in law wants to come live with us and is unable to work. She currently lives in Canada and is a British citizen. She lives alone in Canada with no family / friends / support system and it is having a detrimental affect on her health. She had a bad accident a few years back and is unable to work and welfare barely covers her rent. She wants to come live with us as we are her only family. Would it be possible for her to move here and get disability or some kind of benefit?

hawthorne

This is a tricky one.
Your mother in law lives in Canada- and not here. The HRC might prevent her from getting anything at all.On the other hand she is a British citizen. Those folks have special rights here.
She might get DA in the end after a long waiting period- but if she lives with you your income will decide how much she gets. If you earn too much, she gets nothing or only a bit and you have to fund her.
I would advice you to visit a citizen information office. The folks there are very well trained and knowledgeable.

clio_16v

hawthorne wrote: »

This is a tricky one.
Your mother in law lives in Canada- and not here. The HRC might prevent her from getting anything at all.On the other hand she is a British citizen. Those folks have special rights here.
She might get DA in the end after a long waiting period- but if she lives with you your income will decide how much she gets. If you earn too much, she gets nothing or only a bit and you have to fund her.
I would advice you to visit a citizen information office. The folks there are very well trained and knowledgeable.

I'm currently unemployed / on a training program. I will be employed as soon as it finishes. I've never been unemployed in my life apart from now so this isn't a long term thing. I can't afford to support her while she is here and she would be very very limited physically in what she can do in terms of work. Her current situation is dire and I just want to get her here so she can have family closeby and have a life

clio_16v

Also, ideally she would have her own place but finding any rental is near impossible. She could stay in my nursery for my son maybe until she gets more independance

Conall Cernach

If your mother in law is living with you and her daughter then I don't think your income is a factor in determining her Disability Allowance. The only factor will be (assuming she passes (fails?) the medical assessment) her residency in Ireland. She'll have to sell up in Canada and open a bank account here and stuff like that to prove that this is now her home rather than just a place where she is visiting. The fact that she has family here will be in her favour.

clio_16v

Conall Cernach wrote: »

If your mother in law is living with you and her daughter then I don't think your income is a factor in determining her Disability Allowance. The only factor will be (assuming she passes (fails?) the medical assessment) her residency in Ireland. She'll have to sell up in Canada and open a bank account here and stuff like that to prove that this is now her home rather than just a place where she is visiting. The fact that she has family here will be in her favour.

She has nothing to sell up really. She has about 20 dollars a week after rent and lives in a ****hole apartment. She wants to become resident here but proving that may be an issue alright

splinter65

hawthorne wrote: »

This is a tricky one.
Your mother in law lives in Canada- and not here. The HRC might prevent her from getting anything at all.On the other hand she is a British citizen. Those folks have special rights here.
She might get DA in the end after a long waiting period- but if she lives with you your income will decide how much she gets. If you earn too much, she gets nothing or only a bit and you have to fund her.
I would advice you to visit a citizen information office. The folks there are very well trained and knowledgeable.

Her rate of DA will not be determined by her sons income.
She has a British Passport?

Markcheese

If she's a british citizen then there should be no problem coming here...(but as to welfare?)
But where has she been living / working for the last number of years... If she worked in the UK for a good while she may be entitled to some pension from there( could depend on age..), would some of her Canadian welfare still be payable if she lives here?

splinter65

She needs to bring evidence of what benefits she can bring from Canada.
I have experience of trying to get this information from Canada AFTER the pensioner came to Ireland and even with pestering phone calls and emails it still took 12 weeks and they were terribly officious regarding Data Protection etc.
The MIL needs to get all her paper work before she leaves.
She needs to have evidence of having closed her bank account and terminating her tenancy.

clio_16v

She has a British passport but has lived in Canada for 50 years. She hasn't worked for about 3 years due to injurys from an accident. I will look into whether or not she can still get some Canadian welfare while here.
Basically I want to find her a way to get some income while here. She isn't physically capable of doing any intensive work but maybe a part time job in a charity shop or something relatively slow paced. She has very little needs so low pay isn't too much of a problem

littelady

I'm not being smart but why should or would ireland support her?

clio_16v

littelady wrote: »

I'm not being smart but why should or would ireland support her?

Absolutely no reason or obligation for Ireland to support her whatsoever. Merely enquiring as to the rules on the matter. Any potential application won't be made under false pretenses but by the facts of her situation

Nomis21

I am a British Citizen who has lived in Ireland for ten years and I have received Disability Allowance for 15 months. It took nearly 3 years from first applying to receiving this benefit. A GP and a consultants report is required and in your MIL's case paid for as well. Then as most applications are turned down an appeal then has to be instigated. Habitual residence must be ascertained and a welfare inspector has to visit your home and make a report. It's a long road and sucess is not guaranteed but I wish you luck. Nothing ventured, nothing gained as they say...

Nomis21

The good news is that if you are successful then payment is backdated to when you first made the application
A nice lump sum!

Squatter

littelady wrote: »

I'm not being smart but why should or would ireland support her?

It's probably due to some long-standing reciprocal welfare arrangement with the UK.

Conall Cernach

Squatter wrote: »

It's probably due to some long-standing reciprocal welfare arrangement with the UK.

All EU citizens can come to Ireland to claim a means tested payment so long as they can prove habitual residence.

Graces7

Conall Cernach wrote: »

All EU citizens can come to Ireland to claim a means tested payment so long as they can prove habitual residence.

Indeed yes. I came from the UK to Ireland nearly two decades ago; I was on UK Incapacity /Mobility and that continued until i reached UK pension age. ireland will give small extra payments if quaified.

It is surely from the UK she will need to apply?

Please, go to the Citizens advice centre as they really are the experts. Have a look first at their web site.

Hoping it works out.

clio_16v

Graces7 wrote: »

Conall Cernach wrote: »

All EU citizens can come to Ireland to claim a means tested payment so long as they can prove habitual residence.

Indeed yes. I came from the UK to Ireland nearly two decades ago; I was on UK Incapacity /Mobility and that continued until i reached UK pension age. ireland will give small extra payments if quaified.

It is surely from the UK she will need to apply?

Please, go to the Citizens advice centre as they really are the experts. Have a look first at their web site.

Hoping it works out.

She is a Canadian resident but has British Citizenship. Has never worked in Britain, only Canada. She has no money or family in Canada and we are her only hope for a happy and fulfilled life. We cannot afford to provide for her but hopefully can sort something out

Peregrinus

littelady wrote: »

I'm not being smart but why should or would ireland support her?

Because there is a bilateral Ireland/Canada social security agreement under which contributions paid in one system can qualify for benefits in the other. It may cover her situation.

Or, as an EU national she may benefit from EU arrangements which also benefit Irish citizens outside Ireland.

clio_16v

Peregrinus wrote: »

Because there is a bilateral Ireland/Canada social security agreement under which contributions paid in one system can qualify for benefits in the other. It may cover her situation.

Or, as an EU national she may benefit from EU arrangements which also benefit Irish citizens outside Ireland.

First I heard of it. I'll google that