Dee Forbes banging the RTE TV licence drum again 60m uncollected fee *poll not working - pl ignore*

buried

elperello wrote: »

I'm not sure that we should go the road of a PSB without some element of commercial type programming.

Without drama, lifestyle and light entertainment reflecting a uniquely Irish take on life we would be vacating the stage to imported content and turning away the audience that is there.

I would be happy to leave the question of contracts and salaries to management provided the programmes "wash their face" and don't require inordinate subsidy.

But if you actually want any of that, the the only place to get it is on TG4, so the audience is being turned there anyway. Which I would have no problem paying for BTW.

Elmo

elperello wrote: »

Without drama, lifestyle and light entertainment reflecting a uniquely Irish take on life we would be vacating the stage to imported content and turning away the audience that is there.

Drama?
Light Entertainment?
Comedy?

Name a few. Please.

elperello

Elmo wrote: »

Drama?
Light Entertainment?
Comedy?

Name a few. Please.

That was part of a discussion about future priorities and I didn't say comedy but now that you mention it comedy is a bit of a sore point.

elperello

Gen.Zhukov wrote: »

^Why?

Would the rest of the population not be fairly well encapsulated in this thread. Y'know, people from all parts of the country, varied age range etc.

I'd say this thread is extremely representative of how RTE is seen around the country.

Do you think Peader and Mary just love having Mrs Brown, Pat Short, Kathryn Thomas, etc, etc, shoved at them every day?


Now, moving on to another massive issue. Noel Kelly Management.
This company has way too much influence in RTE (the Public SB)
Ultimately, everyone that pays their licence is helping put this guys kids through college and is paying for his extremely comfortable lifestyle.

He has all the big earners in there so when Duffy invoices RTE €400k pa, Kelly invoices Duffy -what- €40k?

When Tubs invoices RTE €500k pa, Kelly invoices Tubs €50k?

D'Arcy doesn't show up in Kelly's catalogue but I'd put money on it that Kelly is his agent too. I'd also put a wee bet on that clown Bernard O'Shea being in there too. The amount of plugging for his new sh!t show is unreal

This isn't right. Not enough people know about Mr. Kelly and it's time that changed.

I'm open to persuasion about this forum reflecting the opinions of the general public but experience leads me to doubt it does.

As for NKM, I have no issues with it.

Elmo

elperello wrote: »

That was part of a discussion about future priorities and I didn't say comedy but now that you mention it comedy is a bit of a sore point.

These are priorities right now, RTÉ dropped them. It is very difficult to give people the opertunities to learn when you cut funding to each. Same goes for children's TV.

They may be down 25% since 2008 (though they've retained most of their income since 2009), but at the same time they have cut in many of the areas that you mention.

Light Entertainment is purely Chat shows and Day Time TV.
Drama is mainly co-productions and in some cases no RTÉ involvement
Comedy is non-existent

Independent Drama and Comedy in 2019 was at €3.5million, that includes 10 episodes of the TOMMY TEIRNAN SHOW.

Children's TV was only revived in 2020 because of this pandemic.

elperello

Elmo wrote: »

Elperello I am a die hard fan and a die hard fan of RTÉ, however over the last 10 years it has been anything but PSB.

RTÉ in their submission to the Media commission also agree with you on direct funding...however bizarrely as they off loaded the NSO to the NCH the "independent" report into the NSO and NCO objected that either should be fully funded by the Government as the government of the day may have other priorities.

RTÉ's own example of TG4 getting direct funding failed to mention that from 2011 to 2018 it received a portion of the license fee as the government cut direct funding, only restoring funding in 2019 and in 2020 giving them extra funding... in other words should a government decided that public service broadcasting is a luxury that we can ill afford then the PSB get a cut.

As for Brendan O'Connor interviewing Dee Forbes, he did not interview Dee Forbes, she was interviewed by Richard Curran on The Business just before the BOC show.

As for Brendan O'Connor, his wife's father was a producer in RTÉ (unsurprisingly a sticky) but never DG, he left RTÉ in the 1990s.

As for Richard Curran, he is the brother of Noel Curran, Ms. Forbes predecessor..... make of that what you will.

As I say I don't care if RTÉ make profit or a loss or breakeven as long as they provide a public service, they currently do not. IMO

Sorry I failed to reply to this one, as you can see I was a bit busy tonight

I wouldn't even describe myself as a die hard fan of RTE despite what some seem to think.

Anyway you have assumed the mantle now and you will have to own it.

As for the BOC/Curran stuff, I did not post about it except tp point out that it was unsurprising for an RTE employee to be conducting an interview with DF.

A break even and better public service would do it for me.

Elmo

elperello wrote: »

As for the BOC/Curran stuff, I did not post about it except tp point out that it was unsurprising for an RTE employee to be conducting an interview with DF.

I was just correcting some of the previous comments by others in that reply.

Gen.Zhukov

Elmo wrote: »

They are plugging it because RTÉ2 is up ****e creek. They are hoping that they can get an audience for RTÉ2's monday night line up, along with the Prince Andrew interview and the Ireland WC qualifier should bring the audience up significantly for March.

In the last few months Bernard O'Shea has been on:

TLLS x 2- Tubridy (NKM)
CBL- Claire B (NKM)
Weekend on One- BO'C (?)

Boards.ie BOS search https://www.boards.ie/search/submit/?sort=newest&date_to=&date_from=&query=Bernard+O%27Shea

That's classic NKM promotion.

mgn

Gen.Zhukov wrote: »

In the last few months Bernard O'Shea has been on:

TLLS x 2- Tubridy (NKM)
CBL- Claire B (NKM)
Weekend on One- BO'C (?)

Boards.ie BOS search https://www.boards.ie/search/submit/?sort=newest&date_to=&date_from=&query=Bernard+O%27Shea

That's classic NKM promotion.

And there is the classic example in a nutshell, its not what you know, its who you know, and its rife across the board in RTE.

Hotblack Desiato

Not so much who you know, but who you are related to

skimpydoo

Since Love Hate ended has RTE produced any worthwhile TV shows other than The Tommy Tiernan Show?

vriesmays

They should bring back that season of cult films with some guy talking about it.

Walking_Wolf

Love/Hate was one of the best things that RTÉ made in recent years. The last series was 7 years ago.. I wonder why they haven't commissioned another series since then. I know it was Stuart Carolan's creation but who owns the rights to it? Is it just the case that there isn't enough money in the coffers to fund another series?

Ash.J.Williams

skimpydoo wrote: »

Since Love Hate ended has RTE produced any worthwhile TV shows other than The Tommy Tiernan Show?

didn't stuart carolan have another series about people trafficking / brothels?
i missed it at the time but it looked good

Elmo

Ash.J.Williams wrote: »

didn't stuart carolan have another series about people trafficking / brothels?
i missed it at the time but it looked good

And it was terrible. I think he might be involved in their new drama Kin.

They should bring back that season of cult films with some guy talking about it.

The last picture show

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w3toCo07g3U

TomTomTim

Walking_Wolf wrote: »

Love/Hate was one of the best things that RTÉ made in recent years. The last series was 7 years ago.. I wonder why they haven't commissioned another series since then. I know it was Stuart Carolan's creation but who owns the rights to it? Is it just the case that there isn't enough money in the coffers to fund another series?

They have a similar show coming out, directed by the director of Red Rock. I'm sure it will be top class :pac:

Government buildings

Love Hate and Red Rock were excellent, but I personally think RTE funds could be better used.

Television such as the above could be imported, saving RTE a lot of cash.

skimpydoo

Government buildings wrote: »

Love Hate and Red Rock were excellent, but I personally think RTE funds could be better used.

Television such as the above could be imported, saving RTE a lot of cash.

Red Rock was TV3/Virgin Media not RTE and yes it was great.

Elmo

skimpydoo wrote: »

Red Rock was TV3/Virgin Media not RTE and yes it was great.

It was fairly average to be fair. But a good alternative to Fair City. RED ROCK was TV3/BAI SOUND AND VISION FUND/IRISH FILM BOARD. They messed around with the schedule had the roled the series out over 3 years rather then nearly 5 they might have done well, it should have been kept, RTÉ should have picked it up.

sligojoek

Gen.Zhukov wrote: »

In the last few months Bernard O'Shea has been on:

TLLS x 2- Tubridy (NKM)
CBL- Claire B (NKM)
Weekend on One- BO'C (?)

Boards.ie BOS search https://www.boards.ie/search/submit/?sort=newest&date_to=&date_from=&query=Bernard+O%27Shea

That's classic NKM promotion.

On the radio with Ray Darcy today, plugging a reality show on TV tonight.

RabbleRouser2k

Elmo wrote: »

And it was terrible. I think he might be involved in their new drama Kin.


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I think so. A buddy of mine was a crew member on that.

Taken Down was a show that pushed an agenda (Direct provision) but didn't push a story. And there's nothing worse than a show that pushes an agenda and sweet flip all else. (It was bad-the acting, the directing... the story dragging on. Terrible).

Off Topic, but how long did the 'woke hire' last at RTe? 12 months? Louise Byrne got replaced with at least ONE person who is genuinely far better at the job than she is.

https://www.rte.ie/news/primetime/2021/0322/1205418-new-prime-time-presenters-miriam-o-callaghan-sarah-mcinerney-fran-mcnulty/

I'd say that John McGuirk interview was the nail in her coffin.

fritzelly

RabbleRouser2k wrote: »

Off Topic, but how long did the 'woke hire' last at RTe? 12 months? Louise Byrne got replaced with at least ONE person who is genuinely far better at the job than she is.

She was downright terrible and that's with Miriam in the same show

RabbleRouser2k

fritzelly wrote: »

She was downright terrible and that's with Miriam in the same show

Yup. And RTE had to apologise, twice, for that interview. Once by Miriam, once by Louise.

Elmo

I don't really understand the need for 2 presenters for a 40minute show. Claire Byrne hosts a show alone what's the difference?

Kivaro

Elmo wrote: »

I don't really understand the need for 2 presenters for a 40minute show. Claire Byrne hosts a show alone what's the difference?

The difference should be obvious. It all has to do with a train at the publicly funded RTE.
The Gravy Train.

RabbleRouser2k

Elmo wrote: »

I don't really understand the need for 2 presenters for a 40minute show. Claire Byrne hosts a show alone what's the difference?

Tbf, The Claire Byrne show is just a wreck. Embarrassing dreck.
It doesn't discuss anything of use, instead it's like a Tabloid newspaper, promoting the most useless rubbish.

The moment she has to do anything of substance, is the moment she messes up. (The abortion referendum, for example-still sticks in my craw).

Hotblack Desiato

CB's "debate" on the 8th was absolutely hopeless. Pat Kenny showed her how it's done and he was fair to both sides.

Couldn't stomach the thought of 2 hours of United Ireland talk on CB. Anyone take one for the team?

Elmo

Hotblack Desiato wrote: »

Couldn't stomach the thought of 2 hours of United Ireland talk on CB. Anyone take one for the team?

Bit of a pointless debate, lots of moving goal posts really. Though I am sure many here agree we must bring the 800,000 or so unionist along with us before a United Ireland happens, because unionist are very good at bring brought along with us! At least it was a break from COVID.

RTÉ lives largely in a vacum, they don't see beyond politics. They view August as a non-news month when in reality its a non-political month.

If an election happened in August RTÉ would take a break.

NIMAN

RabbleRouser2k wrote: »

Tbf, The Claire Byrne show is just a wreck. Embarrassing dreck.
It doesn't discuss anything of use, instead it's like a Tabloid newspaper, promoting the most useless rubbish.

The moment she has to do anything of substance, is the moment she messes up. (The abortion referendum, for example-still sticks in my craw).

To be fair her show last night on a united Ireland was decent, and more what the content should be, not 6 fluff pieces with pathetic looking sets.

Brendan Bendar

Hotblack Desiato wrote: »

CB's "debate" on the 8th was absolutely hopeless. Pat Kenny showed her how it's done and he was fair to both sides.

Couldn't stomach the thought of 2 hours of United Ireland talk on CB. Anyone take one for the team?

Couldn’t stand two hours of UI with anyone, to be honest.