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Fluoride in food, drinks and tap water poses no risk to health

  • 01-05-2018 3:35pm
    #1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 27,349 ✭✭✭✭


    https://www.irishtimes.com/news/health/fluoride-in-food-drinks-and-tap-water-poses-no-risk-to-health-1.3479000

    "The Food Safety Authority of Ireland (FSAI) report produced by its independent scientific committee evaluates consumption of fluoride from the Irish diet by analysing 216 samples across 18 categories of the most commonly-consumed foods and beverages, including 10 varieties of tea, over the 2014 to 2016 period."

    So that's nice. Now all we have to worry about is the chemicals in the water making the frogs gay and the chemtrails in the sky turning us all into lizard people.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,592 ✭✭✭✭kneemos


    So we've discovered the one substance in the world that doesn't cause cancer.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 229 ✭✭skepticalme


    I need to give up black tea.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,634 ✭✭✭✭Graces7


    https://www.irishtimes.com/news/health/fluoride-in-food-drinks-and-tap-water-poses-no-risk-to-health-1.3479000

    "The Food Safety Authority of Ireland (FSAI) report produced by its independent scientific committee evaluates consumption of fluoride from the Irish diet by analysing 216 samples across 18 categories of the most commonly-consumed foods and beverages, including 10 varieties of tea, over the 2014 to 2016 period."

    So that's nice. Now all we have to worry about is the chemicals in the water making the frogs gay and the chemtrails in the sky turning us all into lizard people.

    If you google fluoride dangers you will find that not all experts believe this.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,779 ✭✭✭Day Lewin


    Ah sure we've all been drinking the stuff for years and we're still ok.

    Have another tot of whiskey and a packet of crisps, and quit worrying.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,605 ✭✭✭gctest50


    Slightly more important would be dumping chlorine into water that ia too dirty to start with


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,624 ✭✭✭✭meeeeh


    It tastes awful. I have absolutely no worries about the safety but we get our drinking water from the well because it tastes better. When out we would always order bottled water because we are so used of taste we can't stand the fluoride water.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,024 ✭✭✭Owryan


    Somehow I don't think the loons who believe flouride in the water is part of a nefarious plot to control the world will give up their beliefs based on this report.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 33,989 ✭✭✭✭odyssey06


    Isn't there flouride in toothpaste? Why are we spending millions adding it to tap water... Let me assure you, my opposition to it is based purely on stinginess!

    "To follow knowledge like a sinking star..." (Tennyson's Ulysses)



  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,971 ✭✭✭_Dara_


    What ever happened to The Girl Against Fluoride?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 32,688 ✭✭✭✭ytpe2r5bxkn0c1


    OSI wrote: »
    If you google the Earth is round you will find that not all experts believe this.

    You'll get the same old nonsense as we had to endure in the vaccinations thread recently. Dump after dump of sites by loons are bound to emerge.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,314 ✭✭✭jh79


    _Dara_ wrote: »
    What ever happened to The Girl Against Fluoride?

    Retired from campaigning against flouridation.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 9,586 ✭✭✭4068ac1elhodqr


    Day Lewin wrote: »
    Have another tot of whiskey and a packet of crisps, and quit worrying.

    A nice of packet of 'Acrylamide' covered crisps you say?

    Is it not of concern that Ireland is in the top5 of the most aftifically fluoridated water in the world? With over 75% of the population having it in their taps.

    Only 11 countries across the globe have 50% or more of their population fluoridated. In total only around 5% of the world's populaiton. Many EU countries don't, or have ceased such practices in recent times.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,634 ✭✭✭✭Graces7


    A nice of packet of 'Acrylamide' covered crisps you say?

    Is it not of concern that Ireland is in the top5 of the most aftifically fluoridated water in the world? With over 75% of the population having it in their taps.

    Only 11 countries across the globe have 50% or more of their population fluoridated. In total only around 5% of the world's populaiton. Many EU countries don't, or have ceased such practices in recent times.

    Thank you . Sense at last. Dental hygiene works far better anyways


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 32,688 ✭✭✭✭ytpe2r5bxkn0c1



    Only 11 countries across the globe have 50% or more of their population fluoridated. In total only around 5% of the world's populaiton. Many EU countries don't, or have ceased such practices in recent times.

    There are many factors behind those statistics. It excludes countries like Argentina, Gabon, France, Libya, Mexico, Senegal, Sri Lanka, Tanzania and Zimbabwe where the water is naturally fluoridated. Indeed, many countries, including China, India and several in Africa have natural fluoridation exceeding recommended levels. Plus countries, e.g. Israel, stopped fluoridation because of cost - citing that only 1% of water was drunk so it was not cost effective. Other countries wish to fluoridate water but simply cannot afford to.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,971 ✭✭✭_Dara_


    jh79 wrote: »
    Retired from campaigning against flouridation.

    Jeez, what a quitter!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,155 ✭✭✭blackcard


    meeeeh wrote: »
    It tastes awful. I have absolutely no worries about the safety but we get our drinking water from the well because it tastes better. When out we would always order bottled water because we are so used of taste we can't stand the fluoride water.

    Fluoride at the levels we are talking about, less than one part per million, is tasteless. It is probably chlorine you are noticing


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,624 ✭✭✭✭meeeeh


    blackcard wrote: »
    Fluoride at the levels we are talking about, less than one part per million, is tasteless. It is probably chlorine you are noticing

    It might be. I find it stronger tasting than the water I get in my parents house which has chlorine but no fluoride. It might be that more is added here but in any case I am not overly fond of taste.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,210 ✭✭✭Pedro K


    Graces7 wrote: »
    If you google fluoride dangers you will find that not all experts believe this.

    You spouted a load of anti vaccine nonsense in another thread. Do you just go out of your way to disagree with science?

    Flouride, in the levels it is in in our water, is perfectly safe.


  • Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators Posts: 93,581 Mod ✭✭✭✭Capt'n Midnight


    OSI wrote: »
    If you google the Earth is round you will find that not all experts believe this.
    Technically speaking the earth is pear shaped.


    Many/most of the papers that say fluoride is bad are using concentrations above the EU limits as the control.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,009 ✭✭✭Tangatagamadda Chaddabinga Bonga Bungo


    I object to it on a matter of principle. It was brought in when dentists didn't really exist for most Irish people in the 1950's, we have come a long way since then.

    We are also the only country in the EU with a nationwide water fluoridation program. Every other country in Europe seem to have teeth that are doing just fine, so I don't see why we need to buck the trend on our own. Irish people don't exactly have a reputation for having great teeth as is.

    It is morally wrong for the government to introduce anything into the water supply that doesn't increase its safety.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 9,586 ✭✭✭4068ac1elhodqr


    If the nanny state wanted to do something really useful, instead of aiming to be one of the '5 most artificially flourenated countries on the planet' it should:

    i) Follow Scotland's lead and introduce minimum unit price (MUP), in the interest of public health, crime and safety.
    ii) Reduce (the 25%) of Irelands adult popualtion whom are considered 'obese' (only 2nd to the UK in Western Europe, for fatties).
    ii) Increase youth activity (4/5 of youth populaiton do not meet minimum physical activity guidelines). 25% approx are also obese.
    iv) Test and treat vitamin D defficenies, particularly at mid-winter (considered a common deficency here - with very wide ranging sympotms).
    v). Increase sugar taxes further, and ban all those very silly 'energy drinks'. What use is flouride in offsetting the daily 7tsp (10gms) of sugar in a typical 330ml can of lunch cola.
    vi) Limit or further ban FOBT associated and 'virtual machines' in bookies. etc etc (drug legalising programs and so on)...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,410 ✭✭✭✭endacl


    Graces7 wrote: »
    If you google fluoride dangers you will find that not all experts believe this.
    An overwhelming majority of those experts only have expertise in nonsense and yoga though.

    Pick one. I'd be happy to demonstrate.


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