Reputable place to buy cockerpoo

aeolian sky

I'm looking for a male cockerpoo puppy.I've done some foster work for <snip> but I get emotional when they find their forever home.So I've decided to buy one-but from where. I'm terrified to get a puppy farmed one.Can anyone direct me to a kind and responsible seller ?

Tilikum17

aeolian sky wrote: »

I'm looking for a male cockerpoo puppy.I've done some foster work for dogs trust but I get emotional when they find their forever home.So I've decided to buy one-but from where. I'm terrified to get a puppy farmed one.Can anyone direct me to a kind and responsible seller ?

Why not go to a dog rescue? The reason why puppy farms exist is because so many people want to buy.

aeolian sky

Tilikum17 wrote: »

Why not go to a dog rescue? The reason why puppy farms exist is because so many people want to buy.

Thanks for your reply. I am following various rescue centres but it seems when a puppy comes up the comment thread goes crazy as everyone wants a puppy and so far no luck.I could take an older unloved dog but I did have my heart set on a puppy

wexie

aaaand here we go again.

OP here's what's going to happen :

people will come on to tell you there is no such thing as a reputable breeder of cockapoo's as they aren't a recognised breed (takes more than breeding 2 dogs to create a new breed)

then other people will come on to tell you to 'adopt don't shop'

someone will be claiming that backyard breeders can be perfectly fine

the whole thing will end up getting quite heated DBB will have to step in a few times to calm things down (and possibly in the end lock the thread)

and after all that you probably won't have had any recommendations for where to find a pup.

My recommendation would be to

1) have a think about why a cockapoo, are there any 'actual' breeds that might do the trick for you
2) if that's changed your opinion at all have a look around for breeders, go visit them, see how they treat their animals
3) if it hasn't changed your opinion then maybe contact one of these breeders on facebook, tell them you would really like one of their pups and ask if they have a waiting list. If they don't then have a think about why not?
4) alternatively you could also rescue a pup, many places will happily hold your details if they think you might be a suitable candidate

em_cat

OP, I’m genuinely confused as to how on earth you spent time fostering for a well known rescue and now you want to purchase your puppy?

cocker5

em_cat wrote: »

OP, I’m genuinely confused as to how on earth you spent time fostering for a well known rescue and now you want to purchase your puppy?

me too shocked TBH... surely it would make you want to adopt even more...

muddypaws

There is absolutely nothing wrong with buying from a reputable, responsible breeder. Unfortunately, you won't find one for a cross breed like a cocker poo.

Is there a particular reason (s) why you want a cocker poo?

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Greyling

muddypaws wrote: »

There is absolutely nothing wrong with buying from a reputable, responsible breeder. Unfortunately, you won't find one for a cross breed like a cocker poo.

Is there a particular reason (s) why you want a cocker poo?

There's no such thing as a "responsible breeder".

Cheshire Cat

Do you really want a Cockapoo? I know 3 and they are all absolute loons.

muddypaws

Greyling wrote: »

There's no such thing as a "responsible breeder".

:rolleyes:

Yes there is. Breeders who do all the relevant health tests on the parents, breed for temperament as well as physical health, and sell pups on a contract that states the dog must be returned if circumstances change, and not sold on or put into rescue. They also have breeding endorsements on the pups.

Don't believe everything you read on Facebook.

aeolian sky

Cheshire Cat wrote: »

Do you really want a Cockapoo? I know 3 and they are all absolute loons.

I previously had a pure bred cocker spaniel but had repeated problems with his ears which I think is a commen issue.I love the temperment,liveliness and looks of cockerpoo's

wexie

Don't say I didn't warn you!

em_cat

Melendez wrote: »

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Sorry, but a few quid isn't going to cover the health & genetic testing that goes into established lines...Nor will it cover the rehoming, checking, vaccinating, feeding, training, socialising...

Also, your sweeping statement is the product of the social media popularity 'fast fashion' culture contest that is partly responsible for the sheer swell of 'designer breed mongrels' currently taking up space in many of the rescue centres around the country right now.

muddypaws

aeolian sky wrote: »

I previously had a pure bred cocker spaniel but had repeated problems with his ears which I think is a commen issue.I love the temperment,liveliness and looks of cockerpoo's

Unfortunately, buying a cross may not solve that issue though, as you could well end up with the issues common to both breeds.

I hope you find the right dog for you and your family.

muddypaws

wexie wrote: »

Don't say I didn't warn you!

People giving the same warnings time and again doesn't mean they aren't relevant though.

em_cat

aeolian sky wrote: »

I previously had a pure bred cocker spaniel but had repeated problems with his ears which I think is a commen issue.I love the temperment,liveliness and looks of cockerpoo's

Well if its ear problems you are worried about, you may well get them with a cockerpoo too; 50:50 as you would expect with any floppy eared breed.

As others have already said since the cockerpoo has not reached a recognised breed standard you will not find a reputable cockerpoo breeder in Ireland.

aeolian sky

wexie wrote: »

Don't say I didn't warn you!

This is my first time on this side of boards.Didnt realize the issue of buying rather than rescuing would be so contentious.Thankyou for your earlier detailed post

alroley

What's wrong with a purebred poodle or cocker spaniel?

As stated by others - there is no such thing a reputable breeder of cockapoos. However, I am sure you can find one in a rescue.

tedpan

aeolian sky wrote:

I'm looking for a male cockerpoo puppy.I've done some foster work for dogs trust but I get emotional when they find their forever home.So I've decided to buy one-but from where. I'm terrified to get a puppy farmed one.Can anyone direct me to a kind and responsible seller ?

The OP obviously understands what care and attention a dog needs. They want a specific breed and asked where to get a puppy from a reputable breeders.

Why is everybody commenting on their choice?

Greyling

tedpan wrote: »

The OP obviously understands what care and attention a dog needs. They want a specific breed and asked where to get a puppy from a reputable breeders.

Why is everybody commenting on their choice?

Pure breeding dogs is an act of barbarism.

muddypaws

tedpan wrote: »

The OP obviously understands what care and attention a dog needs. They want a specific breed and asked where to get a puppy from a reputable breeders.

Why is everybody commenting on their choice?

Cockerpoo isn't a breed, so you won't find a reputable breeder. Instead, you will find people putting two breeds together purely and simply to make money.

bertsmom

I can't believe you have seen first hand the amount of dogs already out there who are in dire and desperate need of a home and you have decided you want to buy a puppy!!!
For some dogs already out there it's literally their lives on the line to be adopted out, how in the name of fu*k can you now even contemplate buying a puppy now?
Genuinely please rethink this if you can provide a loving home for a dog trust me your good deed will be rewarded ten times over by the recipient of a safe warm home.
Please adopt and don't buy. Thanks for reading op. I'm sure if you have fostered you are a good person and I understand it's hard to say goodbye but take a look at a lot of rescues their is a puppy out there that needs people like you.

muddypaws

aeolian sky wrote: »

This is my first time on this side of boards.Didnt realize the issue of buying rather than rescuing would be so contentious.Thankyou for your earlier detailed post

Buying a dog isn't the issue, its buying a designer dog, when you asked for people who would know non puppy farmers breeding them. Posters here would be able to recommend reputable, responsible breeders for either cockers or poodles, but not for the crossbreed that you're looking for.

Sorry, having read some of the replies, yes, buying is an issue for some posters.

Greyling

muddypaws wrote: »

Buying a dog isn't the issue, its buying a designer dog

Any pure bred dog being sold is a designer dog.

gmisk

My sister has a Cockapoo....she is lovely....but an absolute loon....I would do some more research before settling on a breed, definitely try and rehome a dog if thats an option as opposed to buying one.

Glass fused light

aeolian sky wrote: »

I previously had a pure bred cocker spaniel but had repeated problems with his ears which I think is a commen issue.I love the temperment,liveliness and looks of cockerpoo's

Your looking to buy a cocker spaniel crossed with a poodle why do you think you will avoid the common issue of ear problems in cocker spaniels?

em_cat

aeolian sky wrote: »

This is my first time on this side of boards.Didnt realize the issue of buying or rescuing would be so contentious.Thankyou for your earlier detailed post

TBH how did you not see the sticky about puppy farms/mills/backyard breeders?

Also, I am assuming you've researched cockerpoos online, if so, how could you not be aware that there is massive 'contention' in rescue vs breeder? Look, there are pros and cons to both sides and some absolute nutters on both sides, however as @muddypaws has said, there is nothing wrong going to a reputable breeder, but since the cockerpoo is not a recognised breed at least not in the EU, you Will NOT find a reputable breeder in Ireland.

AFAIK, we don't recognise designer hybrid breeds like they do in the US so getting a designer breed such as a cockerpoo, labradoodle, goldendoodle, jug, puggilier..etc with pedigree papers is not possible and anyone on facebook who says they can is lying and should be prosecuted.

I would suggest you find a reputable Cocker Spaniel Breeder and a Poodle Breeder and speak to them. If really you want a cockerpoo, check out the rescues, they are breaming with them and will be after summer.

Greyling

em_cat wrote: »

anyone on facebook who says they can is lying and should be prosecuted.

Prosecuted by who? The Kennel Club? I hope that's a joke.

em_cat

Greyling wrote: »

Prosecuted by who? The Kennel Club? I hope that's a joke.

I mean prosecuted for posing as someone who can grant pedigree papers for a designer breed. I don't know who would prosecute. But I do know the national SPCA's and animal advocacy groups work tirelessly to try to get the selling of animals of any kind banned from sites such as facebook.

I have no issue with reputable, ethical breeders, and yes they do exist.

However, bringing up the various fallacies if the KC's is kind of derailing this thread.

B0jangles

Ask yourself this: where are all of these poodle-mix puppies coming from?

How often do you see a standard poodle, or even a miniature poodle?

You see hundreds of labradoodles and cockapoos around but you rarely if ever see an actual poodle. I've seen 2 standards and about 5 miniatures in the last 10 years and the standards were owned by the same person.

It's because they are being puppy-farmed so the same few poodles are being made to produce hundreds of fashionable puppies!

Glass fused light

gmisk wrote: »

My sister has a Cockapoo....she is lovely....but an absolute loon....I would do some more research before settling on a breed, definitely try and rehome a dog if thats an option as opposed to buying one.

With respect gmisk you sisters dog is mix of two breeds, both of which were bred for hunting. A health breed line in both will result in a high energy, high activity, task orientated animal. I dont know much about poodles but any cocker spaniel I ever met was basically an energiser bunny of the dog world, so its no surprise she is a loon

tk123

Greyling wrote: »

Pure breeding dogs is an act of barbarism.

Except if they're springer spaniels?

Greyling

tk123 wrote: »

Except if they're springer spaniels?

Any breed. Mutilating the dogs in the name of sport is another issue.

tk123

Greyling wrote: »

Any breed. Mutilating the dogs in the name of sport is another issue.

Grand so - no more guide dogs, assistance dogs, sniffer dogs, police dogs, prison service dogs then since you're outlawing responsible breeding. Oh wait they doesn't exist do they lol :rolleyes:

em_cat

B0jangles wrote: »

Ask yourself this: where are all of these poodle-mix puppies coming from?

How often do you see a standard poodle, or even a miniature poodle?


You see hundreds of labradoodles and cockapoos around but you rarely if ever see an actual poodle. I've seen 2 standards and about 5 miniatures in the last 10 years and the standards were owned by the same person.

It's because they are being puppy-farmed so the same few poodles are being made to produce hundreds of fashionable puppies!

wait, no, stop....so you mean all the white fluffies I see aren't purebreds...

Greyling

tk123 wrote: »

Grand so - no more guide dogs, assistance dogs, sniffer dogs, police dogs, prison service dogs then since you're outlawing responsible breeding. Oh wait they doesn't exist do they lol :rolleyes:

Dogs have no business working for police or prisons.

I'll concede on the guide and assistance dogs. If they are going to be bred they should be done nonprofit and only available to people that need them.

tk123

em_cat wrote: »

Bahhhh, this is going to stick in my head every time I walk Mr C

What's going to stick in my head is that I know of 2 poodles too lol - I wonder if they're the same ones! :eek: I actually saw tons of them on hols one year - there must have been some event on at one of the hotels because there was assistance dogs everywhere!

em_cat

tk123 wrote: »

What's going to stick in my head is that I know of 2 poodles too lol - I wonder if they're the same ones! :eek: I actually saw tons of them on hols one year - there must have been some event on at one of the hotels because there was assistance dogs everywhere!

Sorry, I edited the post.

Here's the unedited bit...

Bahhhh, this is going to stick in my head every time I walk Mr C, especially when I feel the judgement dripping off her face from the lady I commonly refer to as the SmugJug lady. She has a pug cross that she claims is a purebred Pug, not the point but the disdain on her face when Mr C has a hissy fit barking at the wind, he particularly likes to do it when he gets a blast up his backside. I feel sorry for her [p]jug though because he has to walk the length of SCR at half check...

em_cat

Greyling wrote: »

Dogs have no business working for police or prisons.

I'll concede on the guide and assistance dogs. If they are going to be bred they should be done nonprofit and only available to people that need them.

Ok so tell me who should be in charge of a deciding who needs them? & who will pay for the extensive training?

So how about search & rescue dogs? What about medical alert dogs? What about herding dogs? What about detection dogs?

Mr C specialises in warning me against the perils of the wind, he is an excellent fire alarm and excels at finding rats and flies...Before he found me, I wasn't particularly looking for a dog who could do these things with such skill & deftness, but then again he is a standard yorkie mix (rescue) and was selectively bred over the years to do these things, for this, I am glad as our previous pooch, which we miss dearly, couldn't/wouldn't have done any of these things...

Knine

Greyling wrote: »

Dogs have no business working for police or prisons.

I'll concede on the guide and assistance dogs. If they are going to be bred they should be done nonprofit and only available to people that need them.

PEATA is that you?

wexie

Knine wrote: »

PEATA is that you?

You mean the PETA that kills more animals than it saves?

https://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/killing-animals-petas-open-secret_us_59e78243e4b0e60c4aa36711

https://www.huffingtonpost.com/nathan-j-winograd/peta-kills-puppies-kittens_b_2979220.html

Greyling

Knine wrote: »

PEATA is that you?

No, I have no interest in PETA.

Melendez

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SillyMangoX

I’ve spent a good lot of time working with cockapoos due to being a groomer and if you asked me if I would get one.. the honest answer is no. They are very highly driven, a mixture of two hunting breeds. Every single one I’ve met is wired! Now I must admit; they do look very cute and they are very clever little dogs, but if this cleverness isn’t worked in the right way it can become destructive. There is also quite a few coming forward showing aggressive tendencies which is quite worrying.
The coat is also very high maintenance, more so than just a pure cocker or poodle, because it’s a mix of silk and wool coat and likes to Matt as soon as you look at it!
As others have said, you won’t find a reputable breeder of cockapoos. You may get lucky and find a family that has a cocker and a poodle and had an accidental litter, but that still wouldn’t be reputable and tbh I’d say 99% of them are farmed. Even if they don’t seem it, they’re copping on to ways to make it seems like they’re not - by placing pups in a show home and make it seem like a family dog.
My suggestion to you would be to either rescue if your heart is really set on the breed (not because I don’t think any dogs should be bred, but because this particular cross won’t be reputabley bred), or go for a pure poodle groomed in a cockapoo type style. Not all poodles are shaved faces and poofy topknots!

em_cat

Melendez wrote: »

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Your sweeping demonization of all of these breeders is almost as unfounded as your sweeping respect for those producing purebreds.[/QUOTE]

No, I just demonise those that think that producing and selling animals to make a "few quid" is ok...Here, what if we started selling and producing designer humans to make a few quid...bet you'd have an issue with that.

I know a few breeders, all of which spent years growing up with the breeds they choose to breed, spent years going to shows, learning, training, educating, conserving and paying thousands of £'s to fund welfare schemes for their chosen breeds, but also literally grew up in the arms of the *SPCA so also see what happens when a person decides to breed designer dogs so they can make a "few quid" and when the vet bills become too costly or they are left with a litter they have to care for, (which they don't) or they dupe a person/family and thier £1000 designer cross breed / puppyfarm purebred developes cancer at 18mos and it's PTS...

Melendez

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Knine

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You could not be more wrong. I don't know any business that sells Pedigree Dogs because they would go bankrupt. Unless of course you are talking about puppy farms?

Melendez

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Gerry T

I've a cockapoo, great dog. Loving, gentle, cute. But also very high energy, totally wired, coat needs a good bit of attention. Can have a troublesome tummy, I've spent about 1k on vet bills with dietary problems. Some ear issues but all together it's a very small issue.
He's 2yrs old and part of the family now.
I would recommend one, but 1 or 2 40min walks each day...off lead so he can run.
I don't understand the difference between a breeder and a puppy farm. From my perspective both breed dogs, both sell for profit, both have the potential to love and care for their dogs and both also have the capacity to be cruel and exploit their position for profit. How can you determine if the breeder of thoroughbreds or the breeder of mongrels is the good or bad guy?

Knine

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Lol €1500. Are you having a laugh? You do realise I know exactly what prices most PBs go for right?

Hmm costs for pedigree vs puppy farmed

Pedigree from a Reputable Breeder

Health Testing
Bitch Blood Tests
Huge Stud Fees/AI/AI Shipping for top Quality Stud
Travel to Stud & boarding
Scans/Vet Care
Worming. Reputable Breeders don't do short Cuts
Vaccinations
IKC Prefix
IKC Reg for each puppy
IKC membership
Endorsements on papers
Cost of gaining a Title i.e. not a back yard breeder - Champion Quality Stock or working Titles. Often both. These determine the best breeding stock
Microchipping
Feeding top quality food
Legal contracts
Puppy Packs, Pedigree Papers/stationary
Aftersales Advice & Grooming
Will take back any puppy or adult dog if needed.

Note almost every litter bred by a Reputable Breeder - a puppy is usually kept on so one less from your imaginary profit.

Puppy farms/Back yard Breeders.

Breed two dogs together of questionable quality who happen to be the required breeds. Note that nobody with a high quality Poodle is going to let it be used on another breed. Puppy farmers & back yard breeders usually own both parents. These greeders take every short cut possible & temperament does not matter. They are often laughably more expensive then top quality pedigree dogs.