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  • 29-04-2018 10:06pm
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    Registered Users Posts: 35


    Was just reading that if you are wprking for the Civil Service you " are expected to be impartial, and to act within the law. A member of the Civil Service is expected to maintain political impartiality and all grades must not seek nomination or election to the European Parliament or Houses of the Oireachtas. Certain grades are also barred from seeking nomination or election to local authorities"

    Does that only apply when working for Service. ie can you leave the Civil Service to seek nomination to local authorities/ oireachtas?


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  • Registered Users Posts: 120 ✭✭evancunny95


    Was just reading that if you are wprking for the Civil Service you " are expected to be impartial, and to act within the law. A member of the Civil Service is expected to maintain political impartiality and all grades must not seek nomination or election to the European Parliament or Houses of the Oireachtas. Certain grades are also barred from seeking nomination or election to local authorities"

    Does that only apply when working for Service. ie can you leave the Civil Service to seek nomination to local authorities/ oireachtas?
    Interested to hear the answer to this. Also any idea what grades can seek nominations or election to local authorities?


  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Computer Games Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 8,458 CMod ✭✭✭✭Sierra Oscar


    Don't think any grade can. Clerical officers cant even they can only take part in public debate outside the service and thats it!

    Just curious as to hear if you can leave the post and then seek nomination?

    Clerical Officers can contest the local elections, subject to receiving special sanction to do so before seeking nomination.

    They can get an additional 12 days unpaid annual leave to allow them attend council meetings and so on.

    Here's the relevant circular - https://circulars.gov.ie/pdf/circular/finance/2009/09.pdf

    I've known a few CO's who have foregone promotion to a higher grade to allow them sit on a council / engage in political activity.


  • Registered Users Posts: 27,157 ✭✭✭✭blanch152


    Clerical Officers and certain other lower grades can certainly run for local elections. Here is the circular:

    https://circulars.gov.ie/pdf/circular/finance/2009/09.pdf


    "Civil servants in the craft, state industrial and manual grades and
    grades below clerical grades may stand for election to local authorities;

    b. Civil servants in the clerical grades and non-industrial grades with
    salary maxima equal to or below the Clerical Officer maximum may
    stand as candidates at local election, subject to permission to do so
    being given by their Department. Departments must give such civil
    servants who are refused permission to take part in political activities,
    a statement of the reason for the decision;"


    Of course, if you are outside the civil service, working in the public service, then you can run for the local authority or the Dail. After all, how many teachers are TDs?


    Edit: Sierra Oscar beat me to it.


  • Registered Users Posts: 10,885 ✭✭✭✭Riskymove



    Does that only apply when working for Service. ie can you leave the Civil Service to seek nomination to local authorities/ oireachtas?

    yes, if you quit you can run


  • Registered Users Posts: 120 ✭✭evancunny95


    Riskymove wrote: »

    Does that only apply when working for Service. ie can you leave the Civil Service to seek nomination to local authorities/ oireachtas?

    yes, if you quit you can run
    What about taking a career break? Would that be allowed?


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  • Registered Users Posts: 10,885 ✭✭✭✭Riskymove


    What about taking a career break? Would that be allowed?

    No


  • Registered Users Posts: 8,452 ✭✭✭blackwhite


    Was just reading that if you are wprking for the Civil Service you " are expected to be impartial, and to act within the law. A member of the Civil Service is expected to maintain political impartiality and all grades must not seek nomination or election to the European Parliament or Houses of the Oireachtas. Certain grades are also barred from seeking nomination or election to local authorities"

    Does that only apply when working for Service. ie can you leave the Civil Service to seek nomination to local authorities/ oireachtas?

    On the last point - I can't imagine there being a restriction in their terms of employment that restricts political activity after their employment has ended


  • Registered Users Posts: 320 ✭✭Hurling Hereford


    Was just reading that if you are wprking for the Civil Service you " are expected to be impartial, and to act within the law. A member of the Civil Service is expected to maintain political impartiality and all grades must not seek nomination or election to the European Parliament or Houses of the Oireachtas. Certain grades are also barred from seeking nomination or election to local authorities"

    Does that only apply when working for Service. ie can you leave the Civil Service to seek nomination to local authorities/ oireachtas?

    Yeah thats correct


  • Registered Users Posts: 320 ✭✭Hurling Hereford


    Was just reading that if you are wprking for the Civil Service you " are expected to be impartial, and to act within the law. A member of the Civil Service is expected to maintain political impartiality and all grades must not seek nomination or election to the European Parliament or Houses of the Oireachtas. Certain grades are also barred from seeking nomination or election to local authorities"

    Does that only apply when working for Service. ie can you leave the Civil Service to seek nomination to local authorities/ oireachtas?

    Clerical staff in Local Authorities can 'run' for election in Local Authority elections, not sure if they can in General Elections though


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