Car with good mpg.

tom1ie

Hi all.
I’m looking to buy a motor.
I’ll be doing 15-20k a year.
It needs to be big enough to hold two car seats but doesn’t need to be massive.
I want to maximize the return from mileage payments so I need something with a high mpg. I know the way you drive depends a lot on mpg but if I can get a car with a high mpg ratio that’ll be starting well.
I know advertised mpg are vastly different to actual mpg but on a couple of sites I’ve seen drivers posting high mpg’s they’ve attained eg “Vauxhall/Opel Astra 2015 1.6 cdti 110ps ecoflex” real mpg = 62.0 advertised = 81.3.
This would be the type of car I’m looking for, has anyone any advice on actual mpg figures with this car or type of car (small family hatchback)?
Also would you recommend this size car or go against it?
My budget will be approx €12000
Thanks a lot.

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tom1ie

Prisoner 6753 wrote: »

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what year have you got?
what mpg do you get out of it? i didnt think id be able to afford a hybrid but the prices online are quite reasonable. ive seen a 2011 t spirit (top spec) with 54 k on it going for under 10k.
I just want to be sure of the mpg before i take the plunge.
Am i right in thinking they are a 1.8 petrol hybrid?

grogi

tom1ie wrote: »

I just want to be sure of the mpg before i take the plunge. Am i right in thinking they are a 1.8 petrol hybrid?

Yes, 1.8 HSD. Expect average economy between 5.0-6.0l/100km.

colm_mcm

Much as I like hybrids, they won’t match mpg on a diesel if you’re doing open road driving.

grogi

colm_mcm wrote: »

Much as I like hybrids, they won’t match mpg on a diesel if you’re doing open road driving.

Open road my prius could get down below 4l... That damn good IMHO..

colm_mcm

Sure is, but diesels can do serious mpg especially if you drive like you had to.

stimpson

colm_mcm wrote: »

Much as I like hybrids, they won’t match mpg on a diesel if you’re doing open road driving.

They’re really not far off it. When you factor in the savings of not having to replace injectors, DPF, dual mass flywheel they pay for themselves in no time.

colm_mcm

I hear ya, and overall there’s a lot to be said for hybrid vs diesel, but the OPs only criteria is to maximize their mileage payment vs fuel bill. A petrol hybrid uses more expensive fuel for a start.

tom1ie

Hmmm all valid points.
The way I see it:
Initial cost outlay, a diesel hybrid is going to be more expensive and will achieve similar mpg as a straightforward diesel.
A diesel is going to be cheaper to buy and achieve good mpg on motorway driving, but long term you have the dpf, dual mast etc etc.
A petrol hybrid uses more expensive fuel, so that eats in to the mileage allowance margin, and won’t get as good mpg as a straightforward diesel on motorway driving, but you won’t have the dpf dual mast problems. Plus it won’t be too long before the government increase vat on diesel as they pollute more than petrol.
So i wonder is the soloution to have a straightforward diesel, have good mpg returns, and in a couple of years sell and buy a newer version to avoid the mechanical problems?
Thanks for all the input by the way!

stimpson

tom1ie wrote: »

Hmmm all valid points.
The way I see it:
Initial cost outlay, a diesel hybrid is going to be more expensive and will achieve similar mpg as a straightforward diesel.
A diesel is going to be cheaper to buy and achieve good mpg on motorway driving, but long term you have the dpf, dual mast etc etc.
A petrol hybrid uses more expensive fuel, so that eats in to the mileage allowance margin, and won’t get as good mpg as a straightforward diesel on motorway driving, but you won’t have the dpf dual mast problems. Plus it won’t be too long before the government increase vat on diesel as they pollute more than petrol.
So i wonder is the soloution to have a straightforward diesel, have good mpg returns, and in a couple of years sell and buy a newer version to avoid the mechanical problems?
Thanks for all the input by the way!

FWIW, I had to replace the injectors on a 5 year old Verso with less than 70,000 km on the clock. Luckily Toyota picked up the cost (over a grand) as goodwill due to a full service history. I immediately traded it in for a hybrid Auris after talking to their service manager. He was doing a 100km commute in a 10 year old Prius with 300,000 km on the clock with nothing more than scheduled services. He was less than complimentary about the reliability of modern diesels.