Nicky Kehoe hit for a big wedge?

Brendan Bendar

What’s with this stuff?

Poor Nicky takes an action agin RTE I think,gets an award of €3.5k and is hit with a bill of around €100-50k!

RTE ditto but assume the taxpayer will cover that?

Now Nicky seems to be a SF activist and as I don’t know how much that pays, it would appear the lad is in trouble.

Now, the question is who sets up the fees for these lawyers who seem to be making a huge wedge out of all this litigation.

Who decides what they get?

Are we being screwed by this lot.

Time to shine a light on them is it?

Bob Harris

Brendan Bendar wrote: »

What’s with this stuff?

Poor Nicky takes an action agin RTE I think,gets an award of €3.5k and is hit with a bill of around €100-50k!


Time to shine a light on them is it?

I hope for Nicky's sake his bill is at the lower end of that range.

ohnonotgmail

Nicky took the action knowing what the potential fees would be. He played a big money game and lost. Tough.

Chancer3001

Never heard of him

Brendan Bendar

Bob Harris wrote: »

I hope for Nicky's sake his bill is at the lower end of that range.

Might not have made it clear but it seems to be €100 to €150k

Now not knowing how much SF activist make, I would presume the man is in trouble financially.

My real point is that who sets fees for these legal dudes who seem to be making shed loads of cash from these issues?

Sorry if I was not clear on that.

ohnonotgmail

Brendan Bendar wrote: »

Might not have made it clear but it seems to be €100 to €150k

Now not knowing how much SF activist make, I would presume the man is in trouble financially.

My real point is that who sets fees for these legal dudes who seem to be making shed loads of cash from these issues?

Sorry if I was not clear on that.

they are self employed. they set their own fees. the people who hire them decide if they want to pay those fees.

Theboinkmaster

Never heard of him but upon 30sec google search I see he's a cvnt, so who cares.

Yer Da sells Avon

Back in the '90s, Ken Barlow from Coronation Street sued The Sun for alleging that he was boring (seriously, imagine that). He was awarded £50,000 which sounds nice, but because he turned down an out-of-court settlement (of £50,000), he was liable for his own legal costs of £120,000. He then sued his own solicitors for giving him bad advice. He lost that case and ended up declaring bankruptcy. If I was him, I would have avoided bankruptcy by suing the solicitors who advised me to sue my previous solicitors. And if I lost, I'd sue whoever advised me to sue them.

Brendan Bendar

ohnonotgmail wrote: »

they are self employed. they set their own fees. the people who hire them decide if they want to pay those fees.

Ehhh......ok , forgive my ignorance but does that mean that ‘justice’ is beyond the reach of those who can’t pay these seemingly very steep stipends?

Is ‘justice’ only available to those who can pay.

Is there competition in this field ?

kneemos

Chancer3001 wrote: »

Never heard of him

I met him the other day,he said hello.

ohnonotgmail

Brendan Bendar wrote: »

Ehhh......ok , forgive my ignorance but does that mean that ‘justice’ is beyond the reach of those who can’t pay these seemingly very steep stipends?

Is ‘justice’ only available to those who can pay.

Is there competition in this field ?

you seem surprised by these revelations.

Brendan Bendar

Heh he... you were out in Ballybrack were you?

That’s Davy, mate

Did he give you any tips on how to ‘set up camp’ in far flung fields.

Did he advise you to bring the guitar for the ‘sing-song’

Shure we were hammered,but shure we’ll have an auld sing-song.

Brendan Bendar

ohnonotgmail wrote: »

you seem surprised by these revelations.

No, just awsking?

ohnonotgmail

Brendan Bendar wrote: »

Heh he... you were out in Ballybrack were you?

That’s Davy, mate

Did he give you any tips on how to ‘set up camp’ in far flung fields.

Did he advise you to bring the guitar for the ‘sing-song’

Shure we were hammered,but shure we’ll have an auld sing-song.

bit early to be drinking isnt it? thought i suppose it is 5 o'clock somewhere.

wexie

Brendan Bendar wrote: »

Now, the question is who sets up the fees for these lawyers who seem to be making a huge wedge out of all this litigation.

The lawyers

Brendan Bendar wrote: »

Who decides what they get?

The lawyers

Brendan Bendar wrote: »

Are we being screwed by this lot.

Yes

BattleCorp

Hapax Legomenon wrote: »

Back in the '90s, Ken Barlow from Coronation Street sued The Sun for alleging that he was boring (seriously, imagine that). He was awarded £50,000 which sounds nice, but because he turned down an out-of-court settlement (of £50,000), he was liable for his own legal costs of £120,000. He then sued his own solicitors for giving him bad advice. He lost that case and ended up declaring bankruptcy. If I was him, I would have avoided bankruptcy by suing the solicitors who advised me to sue my previous solicitors. And if I lost, I'd sue whoever advised me to sue them.

So that's why he is still working even though he is well over 100.

Brendan Bendar

ohnonotgmail wrote: »

bit early to be drinking isnt it? thought i suppose it is 5 o'clock somewhere.

What are you implying there Oh?

Let’s keep this discussion civil, if you don’t mind.

I particularly don’t want personal stuff to enter this serious issue.

ohnonotgmail

Brendan Bendar wrote: »

What are you implying there Oh?

Let’s keep this discussion civil, if you don’t mind.

I particularly don’t want personal stuff to enter this serious issue.

perhaps stop posting nonsense?

facehugger99

Wonder how many years average industrial salary we're talking about here?

Brendan Bendar

ohnonotgmail wrote: »

perhaps stop posting nonsense?

What nonsense are you referring to Oh?

ohnonotgmail

Brendan Bendar wrote: »

What nonsense are you referring to Oh?

this

Brendan Bendar wrote: »

Heh he... you were out in Ballybrack were you?

That’s Davy, mate

Did he give you any tips on how to ‘set up camp’ in far flung fields.

Did he advise you to bring the guitar for the ‘sing-song’

Shure we were hammered,but shure we’ll have an auld sing-song.

Brendan Bendar

Brendan Bendar wrote: »

Ehhh......ok , forgive my ignorance but does that mean that ‘justice’ is beyond the reach of those who can’t pay these seemingly very steep stipends?

Is ‘justice’ only available to those who can pay.

Is there competition in this field ?

It's bad here, worse in England. I haven't read Private Eye in a while but they covered some cases where people were sued for stuff published online. If there was any kind of residence in the UK the site or the writer etc. would be sued. Even if the publisher/writer won they would end up on the hook for millions sometimes so they would just retract. It's a shambolic system

Yer Da sells Avon

BattleCorp wrote: »

So that's why he is still working even though he is well over 100.

It's not work. He is Ken Barlow.

duffysfarm

On a €100k legal bill there would be roughly €15k going straight to government in vat so at least that's something back for the taxpayer so we are not getting totally screwed !

Brendan Bendar

ohnonotgmail wrote: »

this

You are correct, I should have quoted the relevant post

I wasn’t referring to your good self but the poster who said he said “Hello”

Sorry about that, I was referring to Davy Keogh.

wexie

Deleted User wrote: »

It's bad here, worse in England. I haven't read Private Eye in a while but they covered some cases where people were sued for stuff published online. If there was any kind of residence in the UK the site or the writer etc. would be sued. Even if the publisher/writer won they would end up on the hook for millions sometimes so they would just retract. It's a shambolic system

Not Private Eye themselves though (or at least not in this case)
aaah...simpler times

Dear Sir,

We act for Mr Arkell who is Retail Credit Manager of Granada TV Rental Ltd. His attention has been drawn to an article appearing in the issue of Private Eye dated 9th April 1971 on page 4. The statements made about Mr Arkell are entirely untrue and clearly highly defamatory. We are therefore instructed to require from you immediately your proposals for dealing with the matter. Mr Arkell's first concern is that there should be a full retraction at the earliest possible date in Private Eye and he will also want his costs paid. His attitude to damages will be governed by the nature of your reply.

Yours,
(Signed)
Goodman Derrick & Co.

Dear Sirs,

We acknowledge your letter of 29th April referring to Mr. J. Arkell.
We note that Mr Arkell's attitude to damages will be governed by the nature of our reply and would therefore be grateful if you would inform us what his attitude to damages would be, were he to learn that the nature of our reply is as follows: **** off.

Yours,
Private Eye

Pinn Hedde

Brendan Bendar wrote: »

What’s with this stuff?

Poor Nicky takes an action agin RTE I think,gets an award of €3.5k and is hit with a bill of around €100-50k!

RTE ditto but assume the taxpayer will cover that?

Now Nicky seems to be a SF activist and as I don’t know how much that pays, it would appear the lad is in trouble.

Now, the question is who sets up the fees for these lawyers who seem to be making a huge wedge out of all this litigation.

Who decides what they get?

Are we being screwed by this lot.

Time to shine a light on them is it?

Are we being screwed ? You serious friendo ? These dudes have a giant corkscrew up the backsides of every hard working law abiding citizen.

A good question for FOI would be how much of our licence fee revenue have RTE spend on these dudes in the starched shirts and striped breeks ?

Would amount to a multiple of Ray Darcy's salary this poster would opine ?

Water John

I presume he can plead to the Taxing Master, if he thinks it's excessive.
Always be very reluctant to, go up the steps.

Brendan Bendar

Pinn Hedde wrote: »

Are we being screwed ? You serious friendo ? These dudes have a giant corkscrew up the backsides of every hard working law abiding citizen.

A good question for FOI would be how much of our licence fee revenue have RTE spend on these dudes in the starched shirts and striped breeks ?

Would amount to a multiple of Ray Darcy's salary this poster would opine ?

Good call Pinn, had a dull ache in me back valve all day, thought it was that feed of fresh chicken I had at the motorway station.

Had to blow one out just south of Kinnegad on the hard shoulder.

Magpies were gathering before I got the strides up.

Snickers Man

Chancer3001 wrote: »

Never heard of him

Former IRA kidnapper, (although his attempt to kidnap Galen Weston failed) later a Sinn Fein candidate for the Dail and still a prominent backroom Sinn Fein operative.

Didn't like RTE reporting a claim that he was still a senior IRA figure and sued their contributor, successfully, but it appears his legal bill will be a lot bigger than his award.

Donald Trump

Will these pesky lawyers not just accept bundles of Northern Bank cash? No questions asked

Inconsiderate bastards so they are

ohnonotgmail

his mistake was getting greedy and taking the case in the hight court.

Muahahaha

How do people know he actually has a legal bill? Lots of solicitors will do a no win no fee on potentially lucrative cases against the State like this one was. On top of that you also have certain solicitors who are SF sympathisers who wouldnt mind taking a punt on such a case in the hope of taking 30% of the award.

Muahahaha

How do people know he actually has a legal bill? Lots of solicitors will do a no win no fee on potentially lucrative cases against the State like this one was. On top of that you also have certain solicitors who are SF sympathisers who wouldnt mind taking a punt on such a case in the hope of taking 30% of the award. Unless people here are privy to the deal Keogh did with his solicitor you cant say with any certainty at all if he even has a legal bill.

Hmmm. Very recent threads started by Brendan Bendar in After Hours:

Nicky Kehoe hit for a big wedge?...Now Nicky seems to be a SF activist...

Who is paying for Lord Mayors trip?...I find this very strange, what has this to do with the SF LM of Dublin?

Another Sinn Fein blunder?...

et cetera et cetera. A cynic might detect a pattern here...

blanch152

Deleted User wrote: »

Hmmm. Very recent threads started by Brendan Bendar in After Hours:










et cetera et cetera. A cynic might detect a pattern here...

What sort of a pattern? A pattern of Sinn Fein misbehaviour maybe?

Surely you don't mean something personal about poor Brendan?

blanch152

Muahahaha wrote: »

How do people know he actually has a legal bill? Lots of solicitors will do a no win no fee on potentially lucrative cases against the State like this one was. On top of that you also have certain solicitors who are SF sympathisers who wouldnt mind taking a punt on such a case in the hope of taking 30% of the award.

The solicitors might, but would the barristers?

Edit: Actually, as they won the case for him, aren't they entitled to their fees?

JohnnyFlash

Deleted User wrote: »

Hmmm. Very recent threads started by Brendan Bendar in After Hours:










et cetera et cetera. A cynic might detect a pattern here...

Was Nicky Kehoe always a 'good Republican' in the SF view of the world? Thought he was a sticky and an 'IRSP' sort for a time? Might be mixing him up with someone else.

ohnonotgmail

they can always pass the hat around the pubs of belfast.

harry Bailey esq

Theboinkmaster wrote: »

Never heard of him but upon 30sec google search I see he's a cvnt, so who cares.

Far from a c*nt. In this case, Google isn't your friend. I wouldn't vote sf if you paid me and I'm no fan of gaa but to slur that man in the manner that yourself/Google deem fit is way off the mark tbh.

baylah17

Deleted User wrote: »

Hmmm. Very recent threads started by Brendan Bendar in After Hours:

Nicky Kehoe hit for a big wedge?...Now Nicky seems to be a SF activist...

Who is paying for Lord Mayors trip?...I find this very strange, what has this to do with the SF LM of Dublin?

Another Sinn Fein blunder?...

et cetera et cetera. A cynic might detect a pattern here...

A quick look at your own posting history shows how fond of patterns you are yourself
People in glass houses and a that
God Save our Glourious Queen
Lol

Muahahaha

blanch152 wrote: »

The solicitors might, but would the barristers?

Edit: Actually, as they won the case for him, aren't they entitled to their fees?

It is possible a barrister would do a no win no fee or even a pro-bono, there is nothing to stop them doing that if they choose. Winning high profile cases brings even more high profile cases so it is good for their careers.

And there is certainly a few barristers who are sympathetic to SF, in fact Im pretty sure there is a practicing barrister in the Law Library who used to be Chief of Intelligence in the IRA.

Yer Da sells Avon

JohnnyFlash wrote: »

Was Nicky Kehoe always a 'good Republican' in the SF view of the world? Thought he was a sticky and an 'IRSP' sort for a time? Might be mixing him up with someone else.

You might be thinking of Nicky Kelly, who was in the IRSP in the late '70s, and was tortured and stitched up by Gardai investigating the Sallins Train Robbery. He later went on to become a Labour councillor in Wicklow.

diomed

A Pyrrhic victory is a victory that inflicts such a devastating toll on the victor that it is tantamount to defeat.
Someone who wins a Pyrrhic victory has also taken a heavy toll that negates any true sense of achievement.

I never saw it spelled that way before.

Brendan Bendar

Deleted User wrote: »

Hmmm. Very recent threads started by Brendan Bendar in After Hours:










et cetera et cetera. A cynic might detect a pattern here...

There is no pattern , the main point of the thread is to query the huge fees legal eagles seem to command and to try a nd figure out who sets these out.

We talk about cartels in other industries and service providers ,why not here?

I used an example which was in the public eye to illustrate my point.

So nothing sinister here, nothing to see here.

JohnnyFlash

Hapax Legomenon wrote: »

You might be thinking of Nicky Kelly, who was in the IRSP in the late '70s, and was tortured and stitched up by Gardai investigating the Sallins Train Robbery. He later went on to become a Labour councillor in Wicklow.

That’s the lad.