having unprotected sex with someone on prep?

Dickie10

hi , so i just met a really beautiful guy last week. we met got on really well and ended up having sex. it was brilliant and really one of the most wonderful experiences i have ever had with a guy. however he is on prep , just wondering if its ok to have unprotected ie condomless sex. i find sex with a coondom does noot give me enough senitivity. i did top him without for a few minutes and it was really amazing. so is it ok?

hasdanta

PREP only reduces the risk of HIV transmission, but you can still get other STIs from him.

Peregrinus

Being on PrEP should reduce (but not eliminate) his chances of contracting HIV but, if he does contract it, SFAIK it will do nothing to prevent him from transmitting it to you. So possibly you also should be on PrEP; you don't say in your OP whether you are or not.

Plus, as hasdanta points out, PrEP is ineffective at preventing the transmission of STDs other than HIV.

JupiterKid

My understanding is that PreP is designed for situations where two (or more) men having sex with each other face a potential HIV transmission risk if the condom breaks during sex. I don’t think it was ever really intended to be a license for unprotected sex.

Really much safer to use condoms and take the PreP. Barebacking is just not worth the risk of contracting HIV or the many other STIs that can be caught. You can get condoms that give you a much more “real” feel of sensitivity during anal sex.

Mongfinder General

Ffs, talk about dicing with death. Why would you expose yourself to that risk?

Ten of Swords

Do you know anything about this guy? It's great that you have such good chemistry but that's a really big risk to take the first time you have sex with him?

As others have stated;

A) PrEP is not really designed to be a substitute for condoms. Your post suggests you are not on PrEP, this will minimize your partners risk but will likely give you little personal protection.

More importantly, there are any number of other STI's that you could be at risk of.

As I said, how well do you know this guy?

JackTaylorFan

OP, you always post such fascinating things in LGBT.

Seriously, if this is a genuine thread... I kind of despair for humanity.

**** a complete stranger - use protection. It's not ****ing rocket science.

In a broader context:
Nobody should be taking somebody on their word they use Prep. And even if it is the case, your sexual health is your own responsibility.

Dickie10

i used a condom the whole night i topped him, it was barely a minute. thank you for the advice though, i wont do it again.

cgcsb

If you penetrate him, even if he were HIV positive, there isn't much of a chance that he could transmit HIV to you especially if you are circumcised. He's the one taking most of the risk in this instance because it's your semen in his body. If it were the other way around and you bottomed you would be the one taking the majority of risk. That he's on prep doesn't really mean any extra protection for you, it's more protection for him.

You can both still transmit other STIs to each other regardless.

J_E

Mongfinder General wrote: »

Ffs, talk about dicing with death. Why would you expose yourself to that risk?

I hear what you are saying, at the same time, HIV is no longer a death sentence.

L1011

J_E wrote: »

I hear what you are saying, at the same time, HIV is no longer a death sentence.

Its still incurable, likely to remain so for some time if not forever and PReP is nowhere close to infallible.

Annasopra

JackTaylorFan wrote: »

OP, you always post such fascinating things in LGBT.

Seriously, if this is a genuine thread... I kind of despair for humanity.

**** a complete stranger - use protection. It's not ****ing rocket science.

In a broader context:
Nobody should be taking somebody on their word they use Prep. And even if it is the case, your sexual health is your own responsibility.

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J_E

L1011 wrote: »

Its still incurable, likely to remain so for some time if not forever and PReP is nowhere close to infallible.

I'm definitely not advocating unsafe sex practices, I just feel it's important to state that HIV is not the same as it used to be in terms of life expectancy.

Peregrinus

No, it isn't. But it's still an incurable and potentially fatal condition, and one that you definitely don't want to contract.

JackTaylorFan

The thing I've noticed talking to people in the LGBT community - especially gay men - is you're all **** scared of contracting HIV, but at the same time like to perpetuate the propaganda that it's not such a big deal anymore. Sorry, but it is.

Seriously, it's kind of crazy the attitude some of you have got.

L1011

J_E wrote: »

I'm definitely not advocating unsafe sex practices, I just feel it's important to state that HIV is not the same as it used to be in terms of life expectancy.

Its rather pointless even saying that as it can easily be read as trying to excuse a reduction or elimination of precautions.

There is no other infection with a workable risk reduction strategy where people try to give reassurances that its not as bad as it used to be! Syphilis used to make people go mad...

Bos taurus

You alone are responsible for your own sexual health. If you want to catch a transmittable infections, unprotected sex is the quickest route to that. But we all know that, don't we.

Taking Prep, will reduce your risk to catching HIV, but it is only one line of defense. Always rubber up and protect you and your partners from the risk of the other host of STI infections out there.

Ever heard of Super Gonorrhea?? Surely that should be enough to strike fear in any person, to ensure they use a condom.

I've been there, got the t-shirt, and now living with the consequences. Perhaps I was in denial, and thought it would never catch up on me, but it did. Diagnosed HIV+ in July 2017. I had no seroconversion symptoms, nothing to indicate I was walking around with a viral load of 488,927 and a CD4 count of 230 (30 points away from being classed as having AIDS)

Its been a year of constant clinic visits, almost daily side effects from one of the medications (Efavirenz). Yes, it may not be a life sentence anymore, but being HIV+ is certainly no walk in the park. Don't take that chance.

Bos taurus.

Mongfinder General

Bos taurus wrote: »

You alone are responsible for your own sexual health. If you want to catch a transmittable infections, unprotected sex is the quickest route to that. But we all know that, don't we.

Taking Prep, will reduce your risk to catching HIV, but it is only one line of defense. Always rubber up and protect you and your partners from the risk of the other host of STI infections out there.

Ever heard of Super Gonorrhea?? Surely that should be enough to strike fear in any person, to ensure they use a condom.

I've been there, got the t-shirt, and now living with the consequences. Perhaps I was in denial, and thought it would never catch up on me, but it did. Diagnosed HIV+ in July 2017. I had no seroconversion symptoms, nothing to indicate I was walking around with a viral load of 488,927 and a CD4 count of 230 (30 points away from being classed as having AIDS)

Its been a year of constant clinic visits, almost daily side effects from one of the medications (Efavirenz). Yes, it may not be a life sentence anymore, but being HIV+ is certainly no walk in the park. Don't take that chance.

Bos taurus.

How anybody can read your story and continue to have unprotected sex needs their head examined. It is so sad what happened to you. I hope you can manage the condition so that you can at least have a comfortable life in the future.