Looking for a shiba inu for sale in Wicklow/Dublin area

JMurphy15

Does anyone know somewhere I could find one of these amazing dogs, without paying hundreds or even thousands of euro. Thanks!

Bells21

You're looking for one for sale but don't want to pay hundreds of euro for one? Reputable breeders will put a lot of money into decent, well bred, well socialized and healthy pups so will want to earn that money back.
They're not an overly common breed in Ireland and from what I've briefly read about them can be tricky enough to rear correctly.
Prehaps contacting the breed club and doing some research/ground work yourself you may end up finding a reputable breeder.

BudEliJackson

JMurphy15 wrote: »

Does anyone know somewhere I could find one of these amazing dogs, without paying hundreds or even thousands of euro. Thanks!

Please visit your local shelter/ rescue, pm me for list, I volunteer in <snip> and EVERY sanctuary is FULL of beautiful dogs, you would be surprised even pure breed dogs or puppies or pure breed puppies are there, you just need to go and look, don't go for breeders, adopt, don't shop!

endacl

I’d love a Ferrari 488, but they’re charging silly money.

Anybody know where I could pick one up cheap?

wexie

endacl wrote: »

I’d love a Ferrari 488, but they’re charging silly money.

Anybody know where I could pick one up cheap?

Don't need a service history, logbook or NCT

Just needs to be cheap

endacl

wexie wrote: »

Don't need a service history, logbook or NCT

Just needs to be cheap

Actually hadn’t really considered all that stuff. Is it important?

Really, I just like the look of them and want one. Are they cheap to run? Do they take much minding? Easy to look after? Reliable?

Jaysus. I might be better off with a second hand Corolla...

Knine

BudEliJackson wrote: »

don't go for breeders, adopt, don't shop!

I think you meant to write make sure you look for a Reputable Breeder. Not everybody wants to rescue a dog. Some people want a well bred pedigree dog for all sorts of reasons & don't need to be preached to.

BudEliJackson

Knine wrote: »

I think you meant to write make sure you look for a Reputable Breeder. Not everybody wants to rescue a dog. Some people want a well bred pedigree dog for all sorts of reasons & don't need to be preached to.

Hi, dogs are overbred in every country and they are put to sleep every single day- yes even perfect puppies from reputable breeder are- why would anybody want to support this business? People are not aware of these facts, that is why I posted it.

I can share more details about numbers of dogs being put down in Irish pounds if you are interested.

And no, I dont agree, people need to be told as all they see is cute puppy, nothing else.

Knine

BudEliJackson wrote: »

Hi, dogs are overbred in every country and they are put to sleep every single day- yes even perfect puppies from reputable breeder are- why would anybody want to support this business? People are not aware of these facts, that is why I posted it.

I can share more details about numbers of dogs being put down in Irish pounds if you are interested.

And no, I dont agree, people need to be told as all they see is cute puppy, nothing else.

A bit of a contradiction there. It is not the Reputable Breeders who are filling up pounds & rescues. I can assure you of that. People here don't need to be told anything. There are no Business Reputable Breeders in Ireland. It costs a huge amount of money to breed quality pedigree dogs. Something you clearly know nothing about. I think you are confusing them with Puppy Farmers. Maybe pick up your placard & Peta Pals & go preach outside their premises.

BudEliJackson

Knine wrote: »

A bit of a contradiction there. It is not the Reputable Breeders who are filling up pounds & rescues. I can assure you of that. People here don't need to be told anything. There are no Business Reputable Breeders in Ireland. It costs a huge amount of money to breed quality pedigree dogs. Something you clearly know nothing about. I think you are confusing them with Puppy Farmers. Maybe pick up your placard & Peta Pals & go preach outside their premises.

Thats very funny post of you there, same as I could say- go take you breeder pants and go selling puppies somewhere else,

how many pounds/ rescues have you visited in your life?

thats incorrect statement- if people werent breeding like crazy to make money pounds wouldnt be full (and lots of other reasons like people not neutering their dogs etc)

now please tell me you make 0 profit from breeding and I will fall off the chair Im sitting on!

tk123

BudEliJackson wrote: »

Hi, dogs are overbred in every country and they are put to sleep every single day- yes even perfect puppies from reputable breeder are- why would anybody want to support this business? People are not aware of these facts, that is why I posted it.

I can share more details about numbers of dogs being put down in Irish pounds if you are interested.

And no, I dont agree, people need to be told as all they see is cute puppy, nothing else.

Reputable breeders aren't filling pounds. The fact that you they think are suggests you still don't know/won't accept that they exist. IKC registered doesn't make them perfect or come from a reputable source btw nor does them being purebred.

Why wouldn't I source my pup who was bred from healthy parents/grandparents to minimise having another dog with angular limb deformities/behavioural issues and have lifetime backup from the breeder and also a place for my dog if something happened and i couldn't keep her?

Funny the OP isn't willing to spend a few hundred euro - a reputable breeder would more than likely point out that the average cut paw could set them back that much... yet they get told to adopt a dog when they probably can't afford to pay the rehoming fee.

BudEliJackson

tk123 wrote: »

Reputable breeders aren't filling pounds. The fact that you they think are suggests you still don't know/won't accept that they exist. IKC registered doesn't make them perfect or come from a reputable source btw nor does them being purebred.

Why wouldn't I source my pup who was bred from healthy parents/grandparents to minimise having another dog with angular limb deformities/behavioural issues and have lifetime backup from the breeder and also a place for my dog if something happened and i couldn't keep her?

Funny the OP isn't willing to spend a few hundred euro - a reputable breeder would more than likely point out that the average cut paw could set them back that much... yet they get told to adopt a dog when they probably can't afford to pay the rehoming fee.

The limb deformity and behavioral issues you mentioned are funny as it doesnt mean each dog from sanctuary has them or that none of the registered purebred dogs has them, doesnt actually prove anything.

Rehoming fee is 80 or 100 EUR depending on which sanctuary and covers microchipping, most dogs are neutered already depending on age vaccinated etc so these costs would need to be paid anyways. I dont find 100e being unreasonable.

I still dont get breeders making money on breeding dogs trying to prove their point. There is no point to prove.

ADOPT DONT SHOP is the only way to go.

muddypaws

BudEliJackson wrote: »

Thats very funny post of you there, same as I could say- go take you breeder pants and go selling puppies somewhere else,

how many pounds/ rescues have you visited in your life?

thats incorrect statement- if people werent breeding like crazy to make money pounds wouldnt be full (and lots of other reasons like people not neutering their dogs etc)

now please tell me you make 0 profit from breeding and I will fall off the chair Im sitting on!

I'm not a breeder, in fact I'm a rescuer, ran a husky rescue for years, and have a house full of rescue dogs - most of mine are the ones that were up for adoption and nobody wanted. Some of mine are IKC registered. There is a difference between a registered dog being bred by a puppy farmer or back yard breeder, and one being bred by a reputable breeder. To buy from a reputable breeder though, people need to do their homework, and wait for a litter to be born, and that is where the problems arise, as they're not willing to wait, and go and buy from whoever they see advertising the breed they want.

In an ideal world, people would only buy from reputable breeders, those that do health tests, homechecks and offer lifetime back up for all dogs that they breed - those people do exist in Ireland, and that is who we should be steering people towards. Those breeders never have their dogs ending up in pounds or rescues. Sorry no, thats not quite true, sometimes their dogs do end up in pounds, because people lie when buying pups, just as they lie when adopting from rescues. But, due to the stigma around breeders, pounds generally won't allow the breeder to take the dog back, even when the microchip is registered to that breeder. So, when people try to do the right thing, they are prevented from doing it.

Yes, people should adopt from rescues, but there is absolutely nothing wrong, in my opinion, in people buying a well bred, well reared pup of a breed of their choice. If it was only reputable breeders produced pups, there would be no need for rescues.

DBB

Folks, calm the hell down.
BudEliJackson, you are soapboxing. This is NOT a rescue forum. People are free to have an opinion on where to source pets without being preached at, so please stop.
Thanks
DBB

kylith

muddypaws wrote: »

To buy from a reputable breeder though, people need to do their homework, and wait for a litter to be born, and pay the subsequent asking price and that is where the problems arise, as they're not willing to wait, and go and buy cheap from whoever they see advertising the breed they want.

FYP a bit there.

muddypaws

kylith wrote: »

FYP a bit there.

No you didn't, as I know reputable breeders who have given a pup for no charge to the right home.

Dyr

I'd imagine given their relative rarity and their recent internet superstar status they'd be rare enough but demand will always drive supply so there'll be a glut of shibas soon enough. Not a dog for everyone though.

BudEliJackson

DBB wrote: »

Folks, calm the hell down.
BudEliJackson, you are soapboxing. This is NOT a rescue forum. People are free to have an opinion on where to source pets without being preached at, so please stop.
Thanks
DBB

Thanks, I also have the same freedom to express my opinion I would believe and point out few things that ordinary person might not have a clue about? I would believe that is all allowed??

DBB

BudEliJackson wrote: »

Thanks, I also have the same freedom to express my opinion I would believe and point out few things that ordinary person might not have a clue about? I would believe that is all allowed??

BudEliJackson,
In order to prevent getting a card by arguing with a mod on-thread, I'd strongly suggest you take this discussion to pm.
Before you consider doing so, let me make it absolutely clear that you are, of course, allowed to express your opinion. But you are not allowed to soapbox, which you have absolutely done in this thread. This is a site-wide rule... Express your opinion by all means, but find a different way of doing it other than shoving your opinion down people's throats, or by being forceful and/or disrespectful in the way that you post.
Do not assume that just because they hold a different view to you, that the people you're debating with "don't have a clue" on the issue.
Now, let me also make it clear that arguing with a mod on-thread is not permitted. If you wish to discuss this further, take it to pm please.
Thanks
DBB

bisounours

OP: To be practical, can you afford ongoing costs of keeping a pet if paying an upfront cost for a pedigree is financially difficult?

I factor in 400-500 euros a year for vet visits, inoculations, quality food and insurance for my alleycat furball. It will be similar if not more for a pedigree dog.

Captain Flaps

Knine wrote: »

I think you meant to write make sure you look for a Reputable Breeder. Not everybody wants to rescue a dog. Some people want a well bred pedigree dog for all sorts of reasons & don't need to be preached to.

Some people are ar*eholes willingly pumping money into a cruel industry for the sake of an overbred dog with health problems that 'looks cute'

tk123

Captain Flaps wrote: »

Some people are ar*eholes willingly pumping money into a cruel industry for the sake of an overbred dog with health problems that 'looks cute'

Hence the differentiation between reputable breeders...

Knine

Captain Flaps wrote: »

Some people are ar*eholes willingly pumping money into a cruel industry for the sake of an overbred dog with health problems that 'looks cute'

Or a crossbreed that is equally cute but not from health tested dogs and no laws in place for overbreeding. There is a code of ethics for registered dogs. Overbreeding is not accepted. There are health schemes. Indeed I just tested all mine late last year with a new test available. One did not pass. Won't ever be bred from. My dogs don't just look cute. They have a purpose.

Those ar*holes obviously still have a market.

Captain Flaps

*shrug*

Just don't see the point in buying a dog when there are thousands in shelters and rescues. No need at all for breeders, you may have high standards for yourself and that's great but it's an unnecessary and pointless industry.

wexie

Captain Flaps wrote: »

*shrug*

Just don't see the point in buying a dog when there are thousands in shelters and rescues. No need at all for breeders, you may have high standards for yourself and that's great but it's an unnecessary and pointless industry.

you don't see the point and you think it's an unnecessary and pointless industry.

Ever wonder why the far far majority (if not all) of assistance dogs, guide dogs, police dogs....actually pretty much any kind of working dog (perhaps with the exception of sheep dogs)....are breed dogs?

Knine

Captain Flaps wrote: »

*shrug*

Just don't see the point in buying a dog when there are thousands in shelters and rescues. No need at all for breeders, you may have high standards for yourself and that's great but it's an unnecessary and pointless industry.

Shrug away. Of course we should let endangerd breeds die out. Some of them being our very own Native Breeds. Sure there is no need for Garda Dogs, Service Dogs, Sheep/Cattle Dogs, Sniffer Dogs, Drug Dogs, Seizure Alert Dogs, Guide Dogs, Hearing for the deaf dogs, Sled dogs, Gun & Game Keeper Dogs, working Terrier Dogs, Sport Competition Dogs,

As a parent of a child with very significant care needs & for parents of young children, no way would I bring be bringing unknown background dogs into the house. Not at hope.

Nope no need for Breeding Quality Dogs at all.:rolleyes:

Bells21

Captain Flaps wrote:

Just don't see the point in buying a dog when there are thousands in shelters and rescues. No need at all for breeders, you may have high standards for yourself and that's great but it's an unnecessary and pointless industry.

Aside from other valid points that people have made in relation to the need for well bred dogs, what exactly happens when all breeders are gotten rid of and people only adopt from shelters who insist on spaying/neutering dogs? So dogs become extinct? Or shelters allow breeding of rescue dogs who may have some genetic medical/behavioural issue that they're not aware of?
Reputable breeders screen for medical issues and don't breed from dogs with questionable temperaments, which ensures a decent lineage of the breed.

kylith

muddypaws wrote: »

No you didn't, as I know reputable breeders who have given a pup for no charge to the right home.

I'd say that they are few and far between, and let's be honest here; one of the main reasons we get people enquiring about purebreeds on here is because they don't like the cost of a pup; they want it as cheaply as possible.

Knine

I have given away pups free of charge for various reasons. It happens a lot within show circles. Sometimes it is for a friend, others were because of a tragic loss of their dog Sometimes a really quality dog is given away for showing. I have also gotten dogs for free. It is the same with Stud Fees.

kylith

Knine wrote: »

I have given away pups free of charge for various reasons. It happens a lot within show circles. Sometimes it is for a friend, others were because of a tragic loss of their dog Sometimes a really quality dog is given away for showing. I have also gotten dogs for free. It is the same with Stud Fees.

Really? I'd imagine that it wouldn't be usual for someone just looking to buy a dog. As you say above; mainly friends or people you know showing.

Knine

kylith wrote: »

Really? I'd imagine that it wouldn't be usual for someone just looking to buy a dog. As you say above; mainly friends or people you know showing.

Always for people we know. The main issue is you can hopefully trust people you know. People can lie. Imagine if you gave away a high quality puppy to a member of the public. They could just sell it on. Unfortunately people can and do lie to try to get hold of one of your dogs. I've had it happen before but thankfully found out beforehand that the puppy was being brought for sinister reasons.

I had a lady use my dog and and the bitch reabsorbed all but one puppy. I told her she is welcome back to use the dog again. No charge.

Ashbx

I bought my first dog and rescued my second. I am glad I got an rescue dog. I intentionally got an older one who people were less likely to adopt (she was 7 at the time) and I wanted to get a dog that wasn't "on demand". I got a collie, one that is usually one of the last ones to be adopted. But I also bought my first dog. And I have absolutely no regrets or guilt about that....none whatsoever!

I understand the sentiment (and importance) of adopt dont shop but its not for everyone and that's ok!

To put in perspective, a person buys a Shiba Inu for lets say, €1500. The dog, being big, boisterous and too stubborn, gets too much to handle for the owners. But the owners spent soooo much money on it and I guess will be more likely not to waste the money and work hard on getting this dog trained. After all, they are after spending €1500 on it.

Another person rescues a Shiba Inu and pays €100 adoption fee. The dog, again being big, boisterous and too stubborn, gets too much to handle for the owners. This owner only spent €100 on this dog and its causing the owners stress. "Sure lets just bring it back to the rescue. It only cost us €100 anyway".

Could, and unfortunately, probably does happen!

Knine

A Shiba Inu is only a small dog but they are very much not for the Novice dog owner.

em_cat

I worry that the OP seems to want to buy a ‘cheap’ social media popular dog.

Over the weekend I picked up an emancipated, urine soaked, intact younge male shih tzu x huskie cross & it broke my heart.

His jaw was so misaligned that some teeth were horizontal instead of vertical, he couldn’t breath properly because his face was so ‘smashed’ & left hand back leg was slightly longer, had a dodgy microchip & apparently no record with any of the local vets so no telling what other issues he may or may not have due to irresponsible breeding. Also he shed more than my in laws golden retriever.

It took the rescue that the took him in 24 hours on fb to find his owner, not because the owner was looking for him but because someone who knew someone’s sister’s mate texted her to tell her.

I’m not saying the OP is as ignorant as the poor dogs owner above is, but when someone is looking to purchase a purebred, relatively rare breed on the ‘cheap’ this is the kind thing I think of.

tk123

How have I missed SI’s on social media?!

em_cat

tk123 wrote: »

How have I missed SI’s on social media?!

That took me a minute, I was like wtf is SI an abbreviation for, then the penny dropped...

Yep they are popular on the buzzfeed cutest puppy type sites & instagram...

muddypaws

em_cat wrote: »

That took me a minute, I was like wtf is SI an abbreviation for, then the penny dropped...

Yep they are popular on the buzzfeed cutest puppy type sites & instagram...

You young people and your social media shorthand

wexie

em_cat wrote: »

That took me a minute, I was like wtf is SI an abbreviation for, then the penny dropped...

Yep they are popular on the buzzfeed cutest puppy type sites & instagram...

I'm pretty sure Tk123 is taking the proverbial....

As for Shiba Inu's on social media....



so what it boils down to is that OP doesn't want to buy a dog, he wants to buy a meme....

tk123

em_cat wrote: »

That took me a minute, I was like wtf is SI an abbreviation for, then the penny dropped...

Yep they are popular on the buzzfeed cutest puppy type sites & instagram...

I was on my phone lol

em_cat

Ha, laughed so much I cried...yet I fear it’s true...I blame social media for everything that’s wrong in the world today:)

Mind you though I’m so obsessed with http://icanhas.cheezburger.com

Ashbx

Knine wrote: »

A Shiba Inu is only a small dog but they are very much not for the Novice dog owner.

Oh yes, i was thinking of an Akita Inu! My point still applies regardless of the size though :pac:

Dyr

Ashbx wrote: »

Oh yes, i was thinking of an Akita Inu! My point still applies regardless of the size though :pac:

I've owned both, the Shiba is a more difficult dog to manage than the poor Akita (now deceased) ever was, and he bullied the Akita mercilessly.

boomerang

Knine wrote: »

Sure there is no need for Garda Dogs, Service Dogs, Sheep/Cattle Dogs, Sniffer Dogs, Drug Dogs, Seizure Alert Dogs, Guide Dogs, Hearing for the deaf dogs, Sled dogs, Gun & Game Keeper Dogs, working Terrier Dogs, Sport Competition Dogs,

I for one would be very happy to see an end to the practice of "working" (how euphemistic) terriers.

Knine

boomerang wrote: »

I for one would be very happy to see an end to the practice of "working" (how euphemistic) terriers.

I guess it depends on the work the terriers are doing. Some of it is very worthwhile & efficent & I have used my own terriers for it. However I am pretty sure I know what you are talking about & I agree 100% with you.