Eir/Eircom/Telecom Eireann redun-dun-dun-de-dun-dun-cies

Ubbquittious

I wonder how many of the 13,000 employees Eircom would still have if the State never got rid of it.

Lately it seems that i'ts being handed off from one megacorp to the next who will each try to squeeze a bit out of it. It doesn't help that the EU forced us to let the almighty Vode, Sky, BT and all the rest of them use their network for half nothing. This privatisation craic was supposed to help the consumer but all it's done is hand short-term profits into the pockets of a few foreign mega investment corps who we'll never see or hear from again.

Twas all downhill after those ads with the diddly eye music in the background and the girlie sitting on the coast encouraging people to buy shares in "their" national communications monopoly company.

Allinall

Ubbquittious wrote: »

I wonder how many of the 13,000 employees Eircom would still have if the State never got rid of it.

Lately it seems that i'ts being handed off from one megacorp to the next who will each try to squeeze a bit out of it. It doesn't help that the EU forced us to let the almighty Vode, Sky, BT and all the rest of them use their network for half nothing. This privatisation craic was supposed to help the consumer but all it's done is hand short-term profits into the pockets of a few foreign mega investment corps who we'll never see or hear from again.

Twas all downhill after those ads with the diddly eye music in the background and the girlie sitting on the coast encouraging people to buy shares in "their" national communications monopoly company.

I made money on the shares.

Just wasn’t greedy.

vg88

Ubbquittious wrote: »

This privatisation craic was supposed to help the consumer .

It certainly has. Shopping around has gotten myself lower phone bills with better packages.

seamus

Ubbquittious wrote: »

This privatisation craic was supposed to help the consumer

It has.

The mistake made was selling off everything. They should have held onto the lines and floated Eircom as a telecoms provider only. Like they've done with the Gas and electricity.

Really the state still should CPO eircom's infrastructure and give it to the ESB to run.

Yer Da sells Avon

seamus wrote: »

Really the state still should CPO eircom's infrastructure and give it to the ESB to run.

100%

I'd vote for (almost) any party that promised this in the next election.

Hector Bellend

It's all like shares and business and sh1t

Wanderer78

the wealth created is 'trickling down' and increasing worker insecurity is 'good for the economy'!

dotsman

Selling Telecom Eireann was essential.

Without it, we wouldn't have boards! The internet would still be "something you see in movies". And you'd be paying €1 a minute on your mobile plan (and no data).

The only problem was not breaking Eircom up first. By allowing one horrible company a monopoly on our telecommunications infrastructure and also have them be the main provider with a kitten for a regulator was a disastrous move.

They’re a thundering disgrace

ted1

seamus wrote: »

Ubbquittious wrote: »

This privatisation craic was supposed to help the consumer

It has.

The mistake made was selling off everything. They should have held onto the lines and floated Eircom as a telecoms provider only. Like they've done with the Gas and electricity.

Really the state still should CPO eircom's infrastructure and give it to the ESB to run.

Their infrastructure is for the most part obsolete, ESB already carry a lot of telecoms on their network and that was before they rolled out SIRO.

Graces7

dotsman wrote: »

Selling Telecom Eireann was essential.

Without it, we wouldn't have boards! The internet would still be "something you see in movies". And you'd be paying €1 a minute on your mobile plan (and no data).

The only problem was not breaking Eircom up first. By allowing one horrible company a monopoly on our telecommunications infrastructure and also have them be the main provider with a kitten for a regulator was a disastrous move.

How do you work that out, please?

I ditched eircom years ago for their inanity, than did the same with vodafone..

First was on digiweb satellite and now with a small fixed wireless provider here.
No landline...

stampydmonkey

seamus wrote: »

Really the state still should CPO eircom's infrastructure and give it to the ESB to run.

Nah IW / Ervia would be better : )

Annasopra

Allinall wrote: »

I made money on the shares.

Just wasn’t greedy.

Jaysus most people lost.

padd b1975

Wanderer78 wrote: »

the wealth created is 'trickling down' and increasing worker insecurity is 'good for the economy'!

It's certainly better than a bloated, inefficient and unsackable workforce holding the country to ramsom on the whim of a union chief's ego.

waffleman

Graces7 wrote: »

How do you work that out, please?

I ditched eircom years ago for their inanity, than did the same with vodafone..

First was on digiweb satellite and now with a small fixed wireless provider here.
No landline...

Im fed up with vodafone also.

Who is your small fixed wireless provider?

Graces7

waffleman wrote: »

Im fed up with vodafone also.

Who is your small fixed wireless provider?

Westnet, here in Mayo. Only they come to the island. Best service I have ever had, and 24/7 in reality.. Not that old " reasonable usage" thingie . They are online in the Mayo forum

Graces7

waffleman wrote: »

Im fed up with vodafone also.

Who is your small fixed wireless provider?

vodafone overcharged me. Got E700 back. hey still owed me. They then cut me off without warning. So I changed to digiweb. Several months later a threatening solicitors letter from vodafone. Replied and they simply ignored and repeated the letter. I was about to move house so left no address..

They did the same, chasing an old man into a nursing home. They had a fine ?? from comreg for this kind of action

Happy now with westnet. Just the domestic package but they have more specialist cover too.

dotsman

Graces7 wrote: »

How do you work that out, please?

Because, without Irish people having access to decent broadband, nobody would be on boards!

waffleman

Graces7 wrote: »

vodafone overcharged me. Got E700 back. hey still owed me. They then cut me off without warning. So I changed to digiweb. Several months later a threatening solicitors letter from vodafone. Replied and they simply ignored and repeated the letter. I was about to move house so left no address..

They did the same, chasing an old man into a nursing home. They had a fine ?? from comreg for this kind of action

Happy now with westnet. Just the domestic package but they have more specialist cover too.

I wish we had some thing like westnet in Donegal. There are a few but contention on the lines is ridiculous.

I have the following fixed line bb + phone package for 52.50 a month with vodafone:

- 100 free minutes to any irish mobiles per month
- free anytime calls to all uk and ireland landlines
- speeds of between 12 to 13 mb steady
- unlimited download

so unless i phone a uk mobile or a some premium number my bill is 52.50 per month

With the free calls it's hard to beat that at the minute but they are upping the bill all the time (i had this package for 42.50 only 2 years ago). Its goin up to 57.50 in 12 months so I will keep watchin out for a new ISP.

Fann Linn

5 weeks redundancy up to 2 years max.
Not bad.