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New Ford Focus

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,015 ✭✭✭✭Mc Love


    Top picture looks nice but the rear isnt as good, much like the new festy
    A new eight-speed automatic transmission will be available with the 125hp 1.0-litre EcoBoost, 150hp 1.5-litre EcoBoost, 120hp 1.5-litre EcoBlue and 150hp 2.0-litre EcoBlue engines.

    Eight speed automatic?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,644 ✭✭✭✭punisher5112


    Looks lower.

    Has the fiesta rear.

    They are all doing this for years now where all models are very near the same looks


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 8,585 ✭✭✭jca


    Looks like the Mazda 3 to me which is an ugly looking brute.


  • Moderators, Business & Finance Moderators Posts: 17,861 Mod ✭✭✭✭Henry Ford III


    I like it :D


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,015 ✭✭✭✭Mc Love


    I like it :D

    I knew you would ;)


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,808 ✭✭✭rizzee


    It's gorgeous!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,519 ✭✭✭Oafley Jones


    Reminds me of the new i30, which like the Focus is much less attractive one than the model it replaced. This has the same low and long dipping bonnet that I don't like on the Hyundai. Is this coming from pedestrian safety design?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 8,585 ✭✭✭jca


    Reminds me of the new i30, which like the Focus is much less attractive one than the model it replaced. This has the same low and long dipping bonnet that I don't like of the Hyundai. Is this coming from pedestrian safety design?

    Nah, they're just copying off each other. That new i30 is terrible looking compared to the previous model.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,015 ✭✭✭✭Mc Love


    jca wrote: »
    Nah, they're just copying off each other. That new i30 is terrible looking compared to the previous model.

    I thought the same when the current version came out that from the rear quarter panel that it looked a bit renault-ish


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,616 ✭✭✭grogi


    Mc Love wrote: »
    Eight speed automatic?

    Yes - probably one of AWF8Fxx boxes.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 8,585 ✭✭✭jca


    If there's a boggo spec weedy 90 bhp diesel version with keep fit Windows, black door handles and black mirrors it'll sell like hot cakes here.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,884 ✭✭✭Rattlehead_ie


    Front looks nice but can't say I like the rear at all.
    Course there will be some style packs and extras put in/on but still prefer the MK 3 post FL look


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,449 ✭✭✭✭Vicxas


    Hmmmmmm that rear could use a bit of work, but I like it.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12 PetroleumJello


    Not sure where that yellow pic came from. From Fords press kit, ST Line. qodUCk0.jpg77zsr2L.jpg


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,258 ✭✭✭chicorytip


    Reminds me of the new i30, which like the Focus is much less attractive one than the model it replaced. This has the same low and long dipping bonnet that I don't like on the Hyundai. Is this coming from pedestrian safety design?


    It's more to do with creating less wind resistance therefore giving better m.p.g. and lower emissions. These seem to be the primary considerations when it comes to designing new cars these days, SUV's in particular.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,015 ✭✭✭✭Mc Love



    You'd never think that was a focus looking at that. It does looks good from that angle though.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,525 ✭✭✭ION08


    Petrol Particulate Filter ..... good luck!!! :rolleyes:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 73,520 ✭✭✭✭colm_mcm


    Mc Love wrote: »
    Like nothing before

    I respectfully disagree


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,015 ✭✭✭✭Mc Love


    colm_mcm wrote: »
    I respectfully disagree

    haha ok - supposedly that can be open to opinion especially if it looks like a BMW 1 series/i30/Mazda 3 mash up.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,470 ✭✭✭JoeA3


    Looks good, more so from the front than the rear - a bit like the new Fiesta, the rear end bears a strong resemblance to a Nissan Pulsar(?) and thats not a good thing imo.

    The spy pics always have them on big wheels and sitting lower than it will ever be in reality so.... aside from the hot versions, most examples you will see littered on Irish roads will not look so "sporty"!


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,780 ✭✭✭carzony


    Like most new Fords it'll grow on me over time.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,638 ✭✭✭carsfan2


    JoeA3 wrote: »
    Looks good, more so from the front than the rear - a bit like the new Fiesta, the rear end bears a strong resemblance to a Nissan Pulsar(?) and thats not a good thing imo.

    The spy pics always have them on big wheels and sitting lower than it will ever be in reality so.... aside from the hot versions, most examples you will see littered on Irish roads will not look so "sporty"!
    Couldn’t put my finger on what car it reminded me of until you said it Joe.

    Is it not always the same cycle every few years though? Ford introduces a new focus that will drive well, look good but have only ok quality. VW then come along a year or two later and will trump it for (perceived) quality and more or less match driving dynamics(mark 4 excepted) and the status quo remains.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 752 ✭✭✭TheBigGreen


    I like!

    No mention of hybrid or electric!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,808 ✭✭✭rizzee


    I might have to retract my initial response of ''it's gorgeous''. Would I look twice if it didn't have the kit and alloys on it? Who knows.

    Also getting an Impreza hatchback feel to it.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,367 ✭✭✭DaveyDave


    I wonder if we'll even get the automatic petrol? Can't get a petrol auto Focus in Ireland at the moment. Automatic is still a bit taboo in Ireland which is annoying because they're quickly increasing in popularity and everyone swears by them.


  • Posts: 14,344 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Doesnt jump out at me too much.


    Still think the focus should have the rear light cluster running vertically up each side of the rear window (ala the original focus). Made it look a bit different and unique.


    This new focus could drive by me tomorrow and there's 3 or 4 other cars I could think it was if i didn't see the badge on it.


    It also looks like it's sitting lower at the back than the front.. which is a bit odd.. or is that just my eyes?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,470 ✭✭✭JoeA3


    Is it just me, or does it looks very different in the OP's photos compared to the ones posted by PetroleumJello - far better looking in the OP's post and it's the latter's post that is apparently what it really will look like - i.e. uglier!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,541 ✭✭✭Leonard Hofstadter


    No independent rear suspension unless you go for one of the expensive models, quite a step backwards.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 472 ✭✭Turbohymac


    Unfortunately it's still a ford. No doubt loads of design flaws & no recalls. Ford just brushes all mechanical &design faults under the carpet.. just look at their transit vans total disaster machines


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 73,520 ✭✭✭✭colm_mcm


    Was looking at a Mondeo St line earlier. The panel gaps were shocking in places.


  • Moderators, Business & Finance Moderators Posts: 17,861 Mod ✭✭✭✭Henry Ford III


    I think it looks vaguely like a 1 series BMW from the rear.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12 PetroleumJello


    Should have posted this earlier with the images. If you want to peruse all the press images heres the link -> http://focus.fordpresskits.com


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,221 ✭✭✭circadian


    JoeA3 wrote: »
    Looks good, more so from the front than the rear - a bit like the new Fiesta, the rear end bears a strong resemblance to a Nissan Pulsar(?) and thats not a good thing imo.

    The spy pics always have them on big wheels and sitting lower than it will ever be in reality so.... aside from the hot versions, most examples you will see littered on Irish roads will not look so "sporty"!

    Was thinking pulsar myself. It's an alright looking car but no phev version and an 8 speed auto box?


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 16,620 ✭✭✭✭dr.fuzzenstein


    jca wrote: »
    If there's a boggo spec weedy 90 bhp diesel version with keep fit Windows, black door handles and black mirrors it'll sell like hot cakes here.

    I think with those 1 liter eco boost engines, the Irish car buyer will rediscover their love of miserable, underpowered tiny petrol engines that ruled the roost for a long time.
    Once, the biggest car that you could possibly just about move with a 70hp 1.4 would have the punters cream their knickers.
    And 3 cylinders?
    The golden age of petrol is here again! :D


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,685 ✭✭✭✭wonski


    I have driven 1.0t and it was not that bad ;)

    Air con, sat nav, nice alloys and pretty well specced car despite being a rental.

    I think the days of poorly equipped cars are gone and the stories of windey windows etc are of people who didn't have a chance to look at some of the new compact cars Dr ;)

    A friend bought new Golf last year and apart from the automatic gearbox, leather and big space, it has everything I would need from a car, including parking cameras etc. It didn't cost a fortune either.


    Focus would be high on my list if I decide to go pcp route, great design and handling being two main reasons.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,541 ✭✭✭Leonard Hofstadter


    To be fair, the spec in modern Irish cars is pretty good, poverty spec versions don't really sell any more. We still haven't lost our penchant for buying cars with weedy little engines, but having said all that, for some premium cars the amount of extra money to get say a six cylinder engine could easily be over €10,000, that's an awful lot of money to spend on something that will be less desirable on the second hand market.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,808 ✭✭✭maddness


    So it’s a worse looking i30 and probably less economical too.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,685 ✭✭✭✭wonski


    maddness wrote: »
    So it’s a worse looking i30 and probably less economical too.

    Why would it be less economical?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,929 ✭✭✭✭ShadowHearth


    Those two pictures are nicely picked out. I did sow it earlier today on another website and I did not like it at all.
    Focus and fiesta always had some uniqueness to it with its rear lights, now it looks like the rest of Korean crap on the road.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,525 ✭✭✭ION08


    Take a trip 20 years into the past when the revolutionary Mk1 Focus was launched in 1998. YES thats right, 20 YEARS ago.

    Picture that Mk1 Focus.... it might look like this...

    190907_50_for.jpg

    I remember being blown away by how futuristic, revoltionary and ahead of its time it looked..

    Now, imagine somebody asked you to look 20 Years into the FUTURE and tell me what you think that “future” 2018 Focus will look like, would you ever have imagine something as boring and generic and something with 1 less cylinder as this “New” Focus...

    So disappointing.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,780 ✭✭✭carzony


    20 years ago?:eek::eek:

    Still plenty of early 2000 Focus's on the road too. I have a 2004 Focus as a kinda spare car and I think they still look modern and fresh. This new focus will no doubt be a great seller as they always have been no matter how boring it looks like.


  • Posts: 14,344 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    ION08 wrote: »
    Take a trip 20 years into the past when the revolutionary Mk1 Focus was launched in 1998. YES thats right, 20 YEARS ago.

    Picture that Mk1 Focus.... it might look like this...

    190907_50_for.jpg

    I remember being blown away by how futuristic, revoltionary and ahead of its time it looked..

    Now, imagine somebody asked you to look 20 Years into the FUTURE and tell me what you think that “future” 2018 Focus will look like, would you ever have imagine something as boring and generic and something with 1 less cylinder as this “New” Focus...

    So disappointing.


    I dunno how the mk1 focus is received in general durability wise, but I had two of them (an 00 hatch and an 02 estate) and they were bulletproof yokes.

    I almost wish I'd never sold the estate one. It was a really nice car. Just never had air con or cruise control. Had it had those I'd have kept it. Still a lovely looking car in general.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,054 ✭✭✭Tuco88


    What I would do to hear of a modern Ford Escort RS Cosworth...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 73,520 ✭✭✭✭colm_mcm


    Tuco88 wrote: »
    What I would do to hear of a modern Ford Escort RS Cosworth...

    Focus RS?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,054 ✭✭✭Tuco88


    Its nice, id like to see the Escort name return.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,532 ✭✭✭JohnBoy26


    I dunno how the mk1 focus is received in general durability wise, but I had two of them (an 00 hatch and an 02 estate) and they were bulletproof yokes.

    I almost wish I'd never sold the estate one. It was a really nice car. Just never had air con or cruise control. Had it had those I'd have kept it. Still a lovely looking car in general.

    They are far from bullet proof tbh. Maybe you were lucky. They give their fair share issues.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,532 ✭✭✭JohnBoy26


    ION08 wrote: »
    Take a trip 20 years into the past when the revolutionary Mk1 Focus was launched in 1998. YES thats right, 20 YEARS ago.

    Picture that Mk1 Focus.... it might look like this...

    190907_50_for.jpg

    I remember being blown away by how futuristic, revoltionary and ahead of its time it looked..

    Now, imagine somebody asked you to look 20 Years into the FUTURE and tell me what you think that “future” 2018 Focus will look like, would you ever have imagine something as boring and generic and something with 1 less cylinder as this “New” Focus...

    So disappointing.

    The mk1 focus was overrated by the press. They were better looking than the usual escort astra megan etc but they were as bland as anything and dated very quickly. The saloon was also plain ugly.


  • Posts: 14,344 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    JohnBoy26 wrote: »
    The mk1 focus was overrated by the press. They were better looking than the usual escort astra megan etc but they were as bland as anything and dated very quickly. The saloon was also plain ugly.

    Ah I think that's down to personal preference.

    I still think the mk1 focus is a nice looking car. Nicest as a hatchback, then the estate. Saloon wouldn't be the prettiest in the world but it still looks decent enough.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,015 ✭✭✭✭Mc Love


    carzony wrote: »
    Like most new Fords it'll grow on me over time.

    Thats the thing i dont think it will. Saw a 3 door mazda3 this morning and it's near identical. Shame on Ford for following the sheep.
    Ah I think that's down to personal preference.

    I still think the mk1 focus is a nice looking car. Nicest as a hatchback, then the estate. Saloon wouldn't be the prettiest in the world but it still looks decent enough.

    For me the Mk2.5 is my favourite and I'm probably biased a little as I owned one, but it definitely had the best looks in the focus.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,470 ✭✭✭JoeA3


    JohnBoy26 wrote: »
    The mk1 focus was overrated by the press. They were better looking than the usual escort astra megan etc but they were as bland as anything and dated very quickly. The saloon was also plain ugly.

    I remember when they came out and really loving the looks. The interior for sure though dated very quickly and looked really gimmicky and cheap next to the likes of the mk4 Golf at the time.

    Tbh I think the MK2 that followed it years later dated much much worse. Those MK2’s look really tired now imo.


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