€15k budget for 2 cars

aido79

Looking for advice on what to buy. Planning to return from Australia next and want to buy 2 cars with a €15k budget. Thinking about spending €10k on the main family car with decent bootspace as I'll have 2 young kids and €5k on a smaller car.
What sort of cars(models and years) would people recommend in these price ranges?
Also am I likely to have much bargaining power by going to a garage with cash and buying both cars from the same place?

punisher5112

aido79 wrote: »

Looking for advice on what to buy. Planning to return from Australia next and want to buy 2 cars with a €15k budget. Thinking about spending €10k on the main family car with decent bootspace as I'll have 2 young kids and €5k on a smaller car.
What sort of cars(models and years) would people recommend in these price ranges?

Ford Mondeo, skoda Octavia/superb,

Mid range likes of Hyundai i30, Ford focus, skoda fabia, Kia ceed,

Small car likes of Suzuki swift, Hyundai i20, Ford fiesta, Fiat punto, Toyota Yaris etc.

Blazer

Get an estate ie skoda for 10k
Other 5k on BMW Z4/Audi tt etc for yourself

ba_barabus

Regardless of what you get I'd weigh up the costs of insurance first........

This could have a major impact on what car choice you make

aido79

punisher5112 wrote: »

Ford Mondeo, skoda Octavia/superb,

Mid range likes of Hyundai i30, Ford focus, skoda fabia, Kia ceed,

Small car likes of Suzuki swift, Hyundai i20, Ford fiesta, Fiat punto, Toyota Yaris etc.

Maybe I've been in Australia too long but I'd probably see the mid range cars as small cars and probably wouldn't even entertain the small cars.

I'm leaning towards the octavia/ Mondeo type car as the family car though.

aido79

ba_barabus wrote: »

Regardless of what you get I'd weigh up the costs of insurance first........

This could have a major impact on what car choice you make

This is one of my major concerns. I'll be 40 next year and really shouldn't have to worry about the cost of insurance but it seems the insurance system in Ireland has lost the run of itself.
I'm currently insured in a 4 litre landcruiser for the equivalent of €500. Why is insurance so ridiculous!

Hitman3000

aido79 wrote:

This is one of my major concerns. I'll be 40 next year and really shouldn't have to worry about the cost of insurance but it seems the insurance system in Ireland has lost the run of itself. I'm currently insured in a 4 litre landcruiser for the equivalent of €500. Why is insurance so ridiculous!

I'm 46 no break in insurance in the last 20 years. A quote on my 1.9 A4 was 1250 with AIG. No claims or convictions. So you defiantly need to factor insurance costs into your budget. You could be starting from scratch with no no claims discount.

Wildcard7

Hitman3000 wrote: »

I'm 46 no break in insurance in the last 20 years. A quote on my 1.9 A4 was 1250 with AIG. No claims or convictions. So you defiantly need to factor insurance costs into your budget. You could be starting from scratch with no no claims discount.

He might be. When I moved over from Switzerland (not EU either but still a bit closer than Australia) I had an official letter in English from my insurance, stating that I've been insured for 10 years and am in the cheapest bracket for premiums due to no claims. No insurance in Ireland gave a cr4p about that, I started like a person who just got their drivers license.

So OP: Have fun with the insurance and road tax costs of driving a massive 2 liter engine over here

aido79

Apparently some of the insurance companies are starting to accept no claims periods from Australia. I'll have 10 no claims from Australia when moving back so hopefully that goes in my favour.
I have allowed a few thousand for insurance and on road costs like tax on top of the €15k as I'm expecting the insurance to be steep.

pwurple

How much mileage do you do? Will you be buying or renting a house?
If you're looking for an economical family car, you can get a 2013 Nissan leaf for around 8/9k. 120 road tax, 0 fuel cost, annual service about 70 quid. We are a family of 4, plenty boot space. Ideally you need a driveway where you can park it and plug it in though.

nextcarC5

Haggle these two down a bit, but here's two sensible and practical options

1. Ford Focus 1.6 Diesel https://www.carsireland.ie/detail.php?ad_id=1990695&r=s.php%3Fm%5B%5D%3D26%26o%5B%5D%3D%26d%3D2000%26e%3D6000%26ii%3D6000%26ot%3Dk%26i%3D100000%26ot%3Dk%26nn%3D8%26s%3Dd%26yn%3D2008%26pp%3D50%26g%3D0%26z%3D-8


2. Skoda Octavia 1.6 diesel https://www.carsireland.ie/detail.php?ad_id=1931717&r=s.php%3Fm%5B%5D%3D80%26o%5B%5D%3D%26d%3D2000%26e%3D12000%26ii%3D12000%26ot%3Dk%26nn%3D8%26s%3Dd%26yn%3D2008%26pp%3D50%26g%3D3%26z%3D-8

aido79

pwurple wrote: »

How much mileage do you do? Will you be buying or renting a house?
If you're looking for an economical family car, you can get a 2013 Nissan leaf for around 8/9k. 120 road tax, 0 fuel cost, annual service about 70 quid. We are a family of 4, plenty boot space. Ideally you need a driveway where you can park it and plug it in though.

I have no idea what sort of mileage I'll do doing to be honest as I don't know where I'll be working or how much I'll be driving. There'll be a fair amount of country miles involved so not sure how practical an electric car would be.
I own a house with a driveway and am an electrician so I'd be able to install a charging point for it. It may be something I will look into down the track but probably not straight away.

aido79

nextcarC5 wrote: »

Haggle these two down a bit, but here's two sensible and practical options

1. Ford Focus 1.6 Diesel https://www.carsireland.ie/detail.php?ad_id=1990695&r=s.php%3Fm%5B%5D%3D26%26o%5B%5D%3D%26d%3D2000%26e%3D6000%26ii%3D6000%26ot%3Dk%26i%3D100000%26ot%3Dk%26nn%3D8%26s%3Dd%26yn%3D2008%26pp%3D50%26g%3D0%26z%3D-8


2. Skoda Octavia 1.6 diesel https://www.carsireland.ie/detail.php?ad_id=1931717&r=s.php%3Fm%5B%5D%3D80%26o%5B%5D%3D%26d%3D2000%26e%3D12000%26ii%3D12000%26ot%3Dk%26nn%3D8%26s%3Dd%26yn%3D2008%26pp%3D50%26g%3D3%26z%3D-8

Two very good options. Thanks for that. I presume if I were buying next year I would get 2011 and 2012 models for the 2010 and 2011 prices advertised.

nextcarC5

aido79 wrote: »

Two very good options. Thanks for that. I presume if I were buying next year I would get 2011 and 2012 models for the 2010 and 2011 prices advertised.

Yeah, you might even get 2013 ones to be honest :D

ozt9vdujny3srf

Interested to know if people think in this instance it would make sense to try and buy both cars from the same dealer? Possibly could get a better price if the dealer is moving 2 cars in one deal.

nextcarC5

Katelyn High Redwood wrote: »

Interested to know if people think in this instance it would make sense to try and buy both cars from the same dealer? Possibly could get a better price if the dealer is moving 2 cars in one deal.

Really depends on whether the dealer is struggling to shift the cars to be honest. It may well make a difference but often not as much as you may think.

Myself and a family member bought 2 cars (used) within a 2 or 3 weeks from a main dealer before and they didn't do much in terms of discounting more or extras