Leaving school after TY

Cgm01

I am thinking of leaving school after 4th year to go to a teagasc college to do the agricultural green cert and was just wondering does anyone know how I would go about this and if I could get in without doing a LC all help would be greatly appreciated.

The Hill Billy

Hi there & welcome to boards.ie.

I've moved your thread to a more appropriate forum for your query.

tHB

_Brian

My 2c is do your leaving cert and then the green cert.

WoolyJumper

You are still so young. Like the previous poster has said do the leaving cert and then the green cert. There is plenty of time to settle down into a full time job/career. This way you keep your options open. You don't know where life might bring you, what you might want to do in a few years time. You don't want to limit yourself at such a young age.

I know its probably not what you want to hear and you are dying to get out of school but trust me, two years out of your life is nothing in the grand scheme of things. In a few years time you will rarely ever think about your leaving cert but you will be glad to have it.

bogman_bass

Farm because you want to farm not because you can't do anything else.
If you feel trapped in it you'll end up hating it

yosemitesam1

Cgm01 wrote: »

I am thinking of leaving school after 4th year to go to a teagasc college to do the agricultural green cert and was just wondering does anyone know how I would go about this and if I could get in without doing a LC all help would be greatly appreciated.

I think you can apply as long as ya have the junior cert done and over 16.
You'd be better off put in as much effort as you can for the next few years. You'll have better craic and learn more. You're only really relying on luck if you're hoping to get by without a solid education.

GrasstoMilk

What age are you? If under 18 you'll have Zero craic, everyone will be able to go out and live the college life and you can't because you'll be under age. Do the leaving and go then, give yourself options and don't tie yourself down to the farm so early in your life

grassroot1

The modern farmer is a highly educated and motivated individual. (we are no longer thicks chewing on straw)
You will be expected to be an accountant,vet,supervisor,botanist,biologist,welder,mechanic,blocklayer and if your lucky possibly Mam or Dad.
I was not ready for that at the end of TY.
Education is no load but it is the key to many doors.

Angus2018

Stay and finish school, you'll be more mature and wiser when you go to Ag college. 16 vs 18 is quite an age gap in mentality.

A lot of these colleges are near towns with nightclubs and you're sure to be left out when everyone goes.

Timmaay

There is alot still wrong with the Irish 2nd level education system I think. Being forced to do English maths and Irish for the lc, alongside 3 other subjects to make up your 6 is completely counter productive I think (considering in the uk you only need to do 3 A levels). For the majority of the population being made to regurgitate poetry, or Irish or whatever for one single exam when you are 18 is of almost zero benefit to you in the rest of your life. Throw in the likes of an undiagnosed case of dyslexia and that kid is largely wasting their time even showing up to the lc exam (I've personally come across this more than once).

Anyways sorry that's my sunday night rant ha, and not very useful in this case! To the opening poster, how many practical subjects are you doing at the minute (woodwork/engineering/dsg?), are you able to do ag science in your school? What is your ideal job in agriculture after you leave college? Finally would you be aiming just for a green cert or are you looking to go to a specialist course afterwards ? (like machinary or something?)

memorystick

Do your LC. Try to focus on subjects that interest you and that will help in long term e.g. Ag Sci, Engineering or Construction Studies. These subjects often include projects and diaries which make up part of the exam.


Don't leave school too young. It's a balls.

spurious

If the academic LC does not suit or attract you, you could see whether any local schools offer the LCA. Its approach is much more like that of a PLC college, with marks towards the final grade being earned from the start of 5th year, not all hanging on a final exam.

farawaygrass

Definitely do your leaving by cert, and if your interest lies in agriculture do an ag science and environmental course in college. You will get a good foundation and if you go working in an ag consultant office, you will be dealing with all sorts of farmers, which itself is an education. I know it’s hsrd at your age you see but 22 or 23 is still very young. When you get to 30 and you see a lot of your class mates doing fairly well you don’t want to feel left behind. If you are still adamant on leaving, do a trade too. This will help with your green cert, it did in my time anyhow.

_Brian

Have you explored the LCA, leaving cert applied if that’s an option in your school.
My brother hated mainstream school but enjoyed the LCA and went on to get an apprenticeship afterwards.

severeoversteer

i would give anything to be 16 - 17 again! you would be mad to leave school in my opinion.

the big bad world is still going to be there when you are 20 !

kowtow

yosemitesam1 wrote:

I think you can apply as long as ya have the junior cert done and over 16. You'd be better off put in as much effort as you can for the next few years. You'll have better craic and learn more. You're only really relying on luck if you're hoping to get by without a solid education.

My son did exactly this. It is a bit harsh in college if you are under 18 ... and his plan is to go on to WIT in due course and turn it into a degree.

It's a very difficult way to achieve something which could be done easier with a leaving cert. .. there are also a lot more things to go wrong along the way and fewer good escape routes when they do.

However my boy is a stubborn f##cker and seems to be thriving although recently landed with the work placement from hell. I suspect he probably wishes sometimes that he'd done the easier thing and stayed for leaving cert but on the other hand he is learning a lot and his pigheadedness will get him through d.v.