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Bergamo Airport to Genoa Port

  • 22-03-2018 6:27pm
    #1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12


    Going on a cruise in April and we are flying from Dublin to Bergamo Airport in Milan. We need to get to the Port of Genoa so does anyone know what is the best way to get from Bergamo Airport to the Port of Genoa? A taxi is about 300 euro so thats out of the question.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 304 ✭✭Walter Sobchak III


    You might have a look at taking a bus from Bergamo Airport to the central train station in Milan and onward journey to Genoa by train?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,921 ✭✭✭munchkin_utd


    Theres also an hourly train service from Bergamo station to Milan, and a tidy 15 minute change onto the train to Genoa.
    From what I remember, you'd need to get the bus from the airport to Bergamo station.

    Theres also a bus (flixbus) direct from the airport to Genoa at 2pm which is a fair wait if you are on a Ryanair arriving at 10am.
    On the other hand, you could just get something to eat and a few glasses of Vino and the time would fly !


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,951 ✭✭✭fdevine


    You're looking at at least a three hour transfer time.

    https://www.rome2rio.com/map/Milan-Bergamo-Airport-BGY/Port-of-Genoa?gclid=Cj0KCQjwy9LVBRDOARIsAGqoVnta3HB7Ir_RmYCPbdEjxsCrGA-zxD9SgYdZ3-Ea06TwD9T5S5yrpKkaAnrXEALw_wcB

    We've used suntransfers in situations like this before but they're coming in at €300+

    You could hire a car at Bergamo & return it to Genoa for less than €100 (Europcar). Might be cheaper with other operators.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 870 ✭✭✭FCIM


    I use Bergamo Airport quite regularly for going to see Inter. As I see it, you have two options. Bus to Bergamo train station, about ten - fifteen minutes. Train from Bergamo to Milan then change for one to Genoa (though look at whether changing at Treviglio would make the journey shorter). Probably easier are the buses from Bergamo Airport to Milano Centrale station (€5 each way) and then the train from Milan.

    Do have a search around for whether there is a direct bus from the airport to Genoa. I've seen some buses going on odd journeys (for example, Trieste - Venice - Verona - Milan - Bergamo - Turin - somewhere - somewhere - Paris) before so it's not beyond the realms of possibility that there is a Genoa bus.

    If you have time, you really should visit Bergamo though, it's lovely, especially Cittá Alta, and I can recommend some decent and inexpensive hotels.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,624 ✭✭✭✭coylemj


    Mariac wrote: »
    Going on a cruise in April and we are flying from Dublin to Bergamo Airport in Milan.

    Only Ryanair claims that Bergamo airport is 'in Milan', there's no need to repeat it is if it was a fact. You'd have been better off flying to Pisa, there's no direct rail connection to Genoa (you'd have to change at least once) but it would cost a lot less than the trip from Bergamo. And there is a shuttle rail service linking the airport to the main (Pisa Centrale) railway station, takes 5 minutes and costs €1.10.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 870 ✭✭✭FCIM


    coylemj wrote: »
    Only Ryanair claims that Bergamo airport is 'in Milan', there's no need to repeat it is if it was a fact. You'd have been better off flying to Pisa, there's no direct rail connection to Genoa (you'd have to change at least once) but it would cost a lot less than the trip from Bergamo. And there is a shuttle rail service linking the airport to the main (Pisa Centrale) railway station, takes 5 minutes and costs €1.10.

    Milano Centrale to Genova Piazza Principe can be done in between 1h40 and 1h50 even by regional train for €13.45. You can get there quicker by Intercity or Frecciarossa for double the price but it's hardly worth it for the couple of minutes you'd save. So, that's €18.45 a head using the bus from Orio al Serio.

    Anything roughly around the same price from Pisa takes approximately between 3h30 and 4h30 and involves one or two changes. You can get there direct in just shy of 2h30 minutes by Intercity for €21 or just under 2h for €27 but why pay double what you would have to in Milan and still be slower getting there.

    Whilst I wouldn't like to go around telling too many Bergamaschi that Bergamo is in Milan :D, it hardly warrants an attack on the OP as it's not that dissimilar to someone from Italy thinking that Cobh was in Cork city.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12 Mariac


    Thanks a million to everyone for all the info. It looks like Ill be getting the bus and the Train.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12 Mariac


    FCIM wrote: »
    Milano Centrale to Genova Piazza Principe can be done in between 1h40 and 1h50 even by regional train for €13.45. You can get there quicker by Intercity or Frecciarossa for double the price but it's hardly worth it for the couple of minutes you'd save. So, that's €18.45 a head using the bus from Orio al Serio.

    Great, Is there a name on the Regional Trains so we would know which one to get as opposed to the Intercity ones - never been to Milan before. Thanks


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 870 ✭✭✭FCIM


    Mariac wrote: »
    Great, Is there a name on the Regional Trains so we would know which one to get as opposed to the Intercity ones - never been to Milan before. Thanks

    The Frecce look like Japanese bullet trains:

    200x150_ETR_500.jpg

    To my knowledge, the Intercity trains usually look similar to the regional ones but often have Intercity on them:

    Italy-InterCity-ext.jpg

    A treno regionale will almost always look quite basic:

    treno_regionale.jpg

    Anyway, I wouldn't worry about it too much as, however, you book it will be quite obvious from the price. Doing it online or at one of the ticket machines, which you can change language on into English, will have regionale next to the option and the price will be the cheapest. Doing it at the desk, just ask for "il prossimo treno regionale da Milano a Genova" but they'll usually give you the cheapest anyway.

    Don't worry about finding the right train. Think London Euston/Kings Cross for Milano Centrale, it's a big, but easily navigable, station.

    DON'T NEGLECT TO VALIDATE YOUR TICKET! It's not like being on a train in Ireland where your ticket is good enough anyway. You have to punch your ticket yourself in one of the small yellow boxes on the platforms. This will timestamp your ticket and your ticket is totally invalid without it and you are liable for a fine without this validation.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,907 ✭✭✭Stephen15


    FCIM wrote: »
    DON'T NEGLECT TO VALIDATE YOUR TICKET! It's not like being on a train in Ireland where your ticket is good enough anyway. You have to punch your ticket yourself in one of the small yellow boxes on the platforms. This will timestamp your ticket and your ticket is totally invalid without it and you are liable for a fine without this validation.

    I was informed by a ticket inspector on an Intercity in Italy that you only needed to validate your ticket on a regional train as the regional tickets are unassigned seating and can be used on any regional train for about six months after purchase.

    Also bear in mind that in Italy anytime tickets do not exist on Intercity or high speed trains only on regional trains so if you miss one you'd have to buy another ticket to get the next.

    Here's the link to the Trenitalia website

    http://www.trenitalia.com/tcom-en


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 870 ✭✭✭FCIM


    Stephen15 wrote: »
    I was informed by a ticket inspector on an Intercity in Italy that you only needed to validate your ticket on a regional train as the regional tickets are unassigned seating and can be used on any regional train for about six months after purchase.

    Also bear in mind that in Italy anytime tickets do not exist on Intercity or high speed trains only on regional trains so if you miss one you'd have to buy another ticket to get the next.

    Here's the link to the Trenitalia website

    http://www.trenitalia.com/tcom-en

    I think that's probably generally true but I'd validate anyway to be on the safe side. The one and only time I was on a Freccia was between Naples and Rome and I bought my ticket from a machine in Naples station just before boarding it. I think even then they are like aeroplane bookings where you book for a specific journey and not any journey like you can with the regionals but as I said, I'd err on the side of safety.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,907 ✭✭✭Stephen15


    FCIM wrote: »
    I think that's probably generally true but I'd validate anyway to be on the safe side. The one and only time I was on a Freccia was between Naples and Rome and I bought my ticket from a machine in Naples station just before boarding it. I think even then they are like aeroplane bookings where you book for a specific journey and not any journey like you can with the regionals but as I said, I'd err on the side of safety.

    You see the thing is usually on platforms which Frecce and Intercitys depart do not have validators on them I asked a ticket inspector where the validator was and he informed me that is was not nessecary to validate the ticket. The validators only seem to be located on the platforms which regionals depart from at least that's in Napoli Centrale anyway I assume it's the same in the likes of Milano Centrale, Florence, Turin and Termini.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 870 ✭✭✭FCIM


    Stephen15 wrote: »
    You see the thing is usually on platforms which Frecce and Intercitys depart do not have validators on them I asked a ticket inspector where the validator was and he informed me that is was not nessecary to validate the ticket. The validators only seem to be located on the platforms which regionals depart from at least that's in Napoli Centrale anyway I assume it's the same in the likes of Milano Centrale, Florence, Turin and Termini.

    I got the train from Milano Centrale to Bergamo a couple of weeks ago and validated my ticket on a platform a Freccia was leaving from as I walked past because nobody was near the machine (perhaps pointing to you being right). The platforms in Milano Centrale are all on one big long line similar to one of the bigger stations in London, to my knowledge they all have validation machines but even if they don't it's a matter of walking about 5 metres to the next platform. I'm not saying you're wrong, just that I'd err on the side of caution because some of the ticket inspectors in Italy would make Mussolini look calm and relaxed.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,682 ✭✭✭deisemum


    I'm boarding a cruise from Genoa next Saturday, we're flying into Nice and thinking of getting the Thello train to Genoa. Does anyone know if it's better to book the train tickets now or get them on the morning we travel? Also do we need to validate them before boarding the train?

    One thing I'm concerned about on Italian trains is the amount of theft of and from luggage on the trains as I've seen so many people posting about it on various sites.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12 Mariac


    Great information thank you


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,907 ✭✭✭Stephen15


    deisemum wrote: »
    One thing I'm concerned about on Italian trains is the amount of theft of and from luggage on the trains as I've seen so many people posting about it on various sites.

    Travelled on many never had any problems. Once you keep any eye on your stuff and some common sense precautions you should be grand.


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