single farm payments

fire_man

My neighbour was looking to rent out about 30 acres.Can you tell me what grants are available ?Is it only single farm payments?Who would get these payments?The farmer letting the land or myself if I rented it out.
Thanks

Grueller

fire_man wrote: »

My neighbour was looking to rent out about 30 acres.Can you tell me what grants are available ?Is it only single farm payments?Who would get these payments?The farmer letting the land or myself if I rented it out.
Thanks

That all depends on the deal thrashed out. Most deals about here at the moment see the BPS being paid to the land owner.

fire_man

Grueller wrote: »

That all depends on the deal thrashed out. Most deals about here at the moment see the BPS being paid to the land owner.

Thanks if the land owner keeps the land idle does he get any annual payments?

wrangler

fire_man wrote: »

Thanks if the land owner keeps the land idle does he get any annual payments?

You're supposed to keep the land in good agriculture condition, but there's only a 3 or 4% inspection so there's only a small chance of inspection.
Apparently satelite inspection is supposed to flag any land that isn't being cut or grazed.
Whoever farms the land gets the payment, however they must have Entltlements to it, so if the owner owns the Entitlements they can rent the entitlements to the farmer and he pays for the use of the entitlement while drawing down the subsidy,
Going rate for renting Entitlements is about 60 - 70% of the value, although some owners demand the full entitlement

fire_man

Just to clarify the farmer can get single farm payments without cattle as long as he keeps land cut etc.

wrangler

fire_man wrote: »

Just to clarify the farmer can get single farm payments without cattle as long as he keeps land cut etc.

Yes

arctictree

wrangler wrote: »

Yes

I thought there was a minimum stocking density ie 0.15 livestock unit per hectare?

dohc turbo2

arctictree wrote: »

I thought there was a minimum stocking density ie 0.15 livestock unit per hectare?

That's to get the disadvantage payment

Mtx

arctictree wrote: »

wrangler wrote: »

Yes

I thought there was a minimum stocking density ie 0.15 livestock unit per hectare?

Yes for the ANC scheme which is now no longer. So a minimum stocking requirement isn't necessary? Can someone confirm this is correct?

fepper

Mtx wrote: »

Yes for the ANC scheme which is now no longer. So a minimum stocking requirement isn't necessary? Can someone confirm this is correct?

Anc is still there for 2018 as before,its status is changing from 2019

Mtx

fepper wrote: »

Mtx wrote: »

Yes for the ANC scheme which is now no longer. So a minimum stocking requirement isn't necessary? Can someone confirm this is correct?

Anc is still there for 2018 as before,its status is changing from 2019

For northern Ireland 2018 is the last payment.
See the notes to editors here
https://www.daera-ni.gov.uk/news/payment-rates-anc-scheme-2018

wrangler

arctictree wrote: »

I thought there was a minimum stocking density ie 0.15 livestock unit per hectare?

I just didn't want to get into explaining the ANC payment,
The best land I have, capable of five ton wheat/acre, is dsadvantaged :eek:

charolais0153

wrangler wrote: »

I just didn't want to get into explaining the ANC payment,
The best land I have, capable of five ton wheat/acre, is dsadvantaged :eek:

Ya its a bit of a joke in that sense

BigSteaks

fepper wrote: »

Anc is still there for 2018 as before,its status is changing from 2019

Anyone know what way it's changing in 2019?