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Edinburgh vs Munster, Fri 16 Mar 7:35pm; BBC Scotland / TG4

  • 15-03-2018 12:01pm
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    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 45,433 ✭✭✭✭


    Edinburgh team to face Munster in the Guinness PRO14 at BT Murrayfield on Friday 16 March (kick-off 7.35pm) – live on BBC Two Scotland.

    15. Dougie Fife (100)
    14. Jason Harries (8)
    13. Mark Bennett (5)
    12. Chris Dean (60)
    11. Duhan van der Merwe (11)
    10. Jaco van der Walt (11)
    9. Sam Hidalgo-Clyne (103)

    1. Jordan Lay (5)
    2. Neil Cochrane (69)
    3. Murray McCallum (36)
    4. Fraser McKenzie (98) CAPTAIN
    5. Ben Toolis (82)
    6. Magnus Bradbury (46)
    7. John Hardie (27)
    8. Bill Mata (31)

    Replacements: 16. Cameron Fenton (9); 17. Rory Sutherland (60); 18. Simon Berghan (42); 19. Lewis Carmichael (26); 20. Cornell du Preez (98); 21. Nathan Fowles (53); 22. Duncan Weir (28); 23. Junior Rasolea (25)

    Munster:
    Simon Zebo; Darren Sweetnam, Sammy Arnold, Rory Scannell, Alex Wootton; JJ Hanrahan, James Hart;
    James Cronin, Mike Sherry, Stephen Archer; Jean Kleyn, Billy Holland (C); Jack O’Donoghue, Conor Oliver, Robin Copeland.

    Replacements: Kevin O’Byrne, Dave Kilcoyne, Brian Scott, Darren O’Shea, Tommy O’Donnell, Jack Stafford, Bill Johnston, Dan Goggin.

    Big game for Munster. A win here could seal second place. Edinburgh are 10 points shy of Scarlets at second and 5 points clear of Ulster at fourth so this is a huge game for them also. I haven't seen any official confirmation of Duncan Williams' injury but Jack Stafford's selection on the bench suggests that Williams is indeed unavailable. James Hart now has an opportunity to get an extended run in the first choice 23.

    I think Edinburgh will edge this with Munster taking home a losing bonus.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,258 ✭✭✭✭Buer


    I'd like to think Munster have enough quality in the likes of Zebo, Scannell, Kleyn etc. to sneak the win here. The halfbacks need to do something though and lift themselves beyond what we've seen this season to date.

    Edinburgh have a little bit of impact on the bench too with guys like Berghan and CDP .


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,536 ✭✭✭case885


    No Scannell and Marshall playing for the A's is unusual.
    Strong 23 think we should be winning this.


  • Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 12,463 Mod ✭✭✭✭Cookiemunster


    case885 wrote: »
    No Scannell and Marshall playing for the A's is unusual.
    Strong 23 think we should be winning this.

    Scannell is still injured. From this weeks injury update - Niall Scannell is continuing his return from a rib injury and will be monitored as the week progresses.

    My question is where is Tyler?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,968 ✭✭✭✭phog


    No Tyler :(

    Edit - just saw CMs post


  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    Edinburgh gave Leinster plenty of chances to put the game away a few weeks back but we struggled. Their forwards are quite quick off the line and our 9 / 10 were under pressure as a result.

    JJ is going to have to show a lot more than he has so far to navigate this pressure and produce enough territory for Munster to pick up some scores.

    Definitely a tough game to call but I think Munster by less than 7. Edinburgh won't pack it in at home.


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  • Moderators, Business & Finance Moderators Posts: 17,856 Mod ✭✭✭✭Henry Ford III


    JJ's lack of form has to be a worry. If he doesn't perform we'll lose I think.

    Fingers crossed.


  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    I have faith that Munster and Ireland can do the double


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 45,433 ✭✭✭✭thomond2006


    Scannell is still injured. From this weeks injury update - Niall Scannell is continuing his return from a rib injury and will be monitored as the week progresses.

    My question is where is Tyler?
    phog wrote: »
    No Tyler :(

    Edit - just saw CMs post

    My positive spin/guess on this is they don't want TB making three consecutive appearances and he will start against Scarlets and Toulon.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 45,433 ✭✭✭✭thomond2006


    Mike Sherry starting this ahead of KOB is a bit out of the blue. It will be his first start since April 2016. I don't think he will be at Munster next season so I hope he can put himself in the shop window.


  • Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 11,107 Mod ✭✭✭✭aloooof


    My positive spin/guess on this is they don't want TB making three consecutive appearances and he will start against Scarlets and Toulon.

    Ahead of Keatley, ya reckon? I would've thought Keatley was our first choice 10? I suppose we don't really have an indication yet of who JVG sees has his first choice 10.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,599 ✭✭✭ScrubsfanChris


    Was there a reason this game is back in Murrayfield?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,599 ✭✭✭ScrubsfanChris


    BBC commentary need to dust off their rule book. Obvious penalty for me.
    Great defensive set on our own line


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,967 ✭✭✭✭The Lost Sheep


    Was there a reason this game is back in Murrayfield?
    Edinburgh felt switching between other ground and Murrayfield regularly enough wasnt suiting the team so have moved back to Murrayfield for rest of the season. Will look at other options including SRU looking at giving one of the back pitches in Murrayfield a bigger capacity of 5000+ to allow Edinburgh play there


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 45,433 ✭✭✭✭thomond2006


    Kleyn will be very happy that was overturned!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,799 ✭✭✭✭Akrasia


    Fairly grim stuff so far


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,076 ✭✭✭leakyboots


    'Kicked it out under zero pressure' and he's pinned to the touchline with a defender on top of him... gas man Whitehouse


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,076 ✭✭✭leakyboots


    We're slipping off some amount of tackles


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,599 ✭✭✭ScrubsfanChris


    Hart doing nothing to improve his popularity here


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,076 ✭✭✭leakyboots


    Awful from that maul, was Hart not in front of his man when it split and he took the ball off him... then launched it into the 22 for an easy mark. How Whitehouse didn't spot that is beyond me


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,599 ✭✭✭ScrubsfanChris


    These turnovers are criminal, no ruck protection to speak of


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,076 ✭✭✭leakyboots


    Did they lube up the ball beforehand or something? Both sides are atrocious at holding onto it


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,599 ✭✭✭ScrubsfanChris


    Very stop start, apart from on our try line, not much is going past 5 phases or so


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 45,433 ✭✭✭✭thomond2006


    I see Wootton has gone off. Injured?


  • Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 11,107 Mod ✭✭✭✭aloooof


    Out penalty count has seemed fairly high so far, albeit in their half of the field.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 45,433 ✭✭✭✭thomond2006


    Ah here. Chance wasted. That had to be scored, Edinburgh were on the ropes.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,599 ✭✭✭ScrubsfanChris


    Skip pass ruined that, no need and cost a try probably.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,047 ✭✭✭Bazzo


    Oops, didn't realise there was a thread for this. The most interesting part of the match for me so far is how utterly abysmal the BBC Scotland commentary is. I'm not sure if I could produce commentary that blatantly biased if I actively tried.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,599 ✭✭✭ScrubsfanChris


    Pathetic


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 45,433 ✭✭✭✭thomond2006


    Shambolic defence.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,047 ✭✭✭Bazzo


    I see Wootton has gone off. Injured?

    Seemed to run off fine.. very strange.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,534 ✭✭✭sioda


    Shocking bad return for all the possession


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,799 ✭✭✭✭Akrasia


    Are Embra wearing lube on their shirts? How many tackles did he slip through there?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,599 ✭✭✭ScrubsfanChris


    The game plan must be give Edinburgh the ball, abysmal retention even when we don't kick it away


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,799 ✭✭✭✭Akrasia


    The game plan must be give Edinburgh the ball, abysmal retention even when we don't kick it away

    Ulster fans must be going spare watching this. They need us to get a result here


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 45,433 ✭✭✭✭thomond2006


    Some good stuff but some utter dross as well. Rory Scannell will be getting an earful on Monday for that attempt on Dougie Fife.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 26,899 ✭✭✭✭BBDBB


    Scotland are great

    Yeah, how great?


    Really really great

    Yeah


    Yeah


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,599 ✭✭✭ScrubsfanChris


    Finally on the front foot and we kick the ball away.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 116 ✭✭Chex LeMeneux


    Munster lucky with the defensive maul there. Few joinings that were never from hindmost foot


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,047 ✭✭✭Bazzo


    BBDBB wrote: »
    Scotland are great

    Yeah, how great?


    Really really great

    Yeah


    Yeah

    And remember that try that got disallowed in the first half for a clear offside? Could you try to blag a makey uppy law or something for us to make it look like we were robbed for the audience at home?


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    That'll have to be a red.


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  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 1,480 ✭✭✭bloodless_coup


    He didn't crouch that much


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,799 ✭✭✭✭Akrasia


    That'll have to be a red.

    Definite red. Ben Whitehouse should have pulled the trigger there


  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    Akrasia wrote: »
    Definite red. Ben Whitehouse should have pulled the trigger there

    Red is the accepted norm. The fact that he was really trying to wrap maybe mitigated it to a yellow. No intent, but it was reckless and to the head.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 26,899 ✭✭✭✭BBDBB


    What height is Copeland? 6’4?

    The “duck” was about 6 inches at most, that was still a high hit


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,799 ✭✭✭✭Akrasia


    BBDBB wrote: »
    What height is Copeland? 6’4?

    The “duck” was about 6 inches at most, that was still a high hit

    Every player ducks a little when taking a ball like that. He led with his shoulder to the head. Definite red.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,728 ✭✭✭Former Former


    Sweetnam had to do better there.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,150 ✭✭✭✭LuckyGent88


    God we are just awful. What has happened to Sweetnam. Can’t tackle at all.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,902 ✭✭✭budhabob


    Just switched this on, might be time to switch it off again.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,799 ✭✭✭✭Akrasia


    Munster shouldn't be conceding tries against 14 men. I can't see them winning this game from here


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,599 ✭✭✭ScrubsfanChris


    budhabob wrote: »
    Just switched this on, might be time to switch it off again.
    You should


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