UK: Up to 1,000 children ‘drugged, beaten and raped’ in Telford grooming scandal

MilesMorales1

Girls as young as 11 were drugged, beaten and raped in Telford, with up to 1,000 children estimated to have suffered abuse in the town, a new investigation has found.

An investigation by the Sunday Mirror uncovered the shocking grooming scandal, believed to have been taking place over a 40 year period.
As a result of the findings, Telford MP Lucy Allan has called for an inquiry into child sexual exploitation in the town.

Allegations reported to date back to the 1980s are said to have been mishandled by authorities, with many perpetrators going unpunished, while it is claimed similar abuse is continuing in the area.

The Tory MP previously called for a Rotherham-style inquiry into the allegations and called the latest reports ‘extremely serious and shocking’.
An estimate of the number of victims was calculated with the help of Professor Liz Kelly, from the Child and Woman Abuse Studies Unit at London Metropolitan University, who reviewed the Mirror’s figures.

Dino Nocivelli, a specialist child abuse solicitor, told the Mirror: ‘These children were treated as sexual commodities by men who inflicted despicable acts of abuse.

‘The survivors deserve an inquiry. They need to know how abuse took place for so long and why so many perpetrators have never been brought to justice.’
Seven men were jailed in 2013 following Operation Chalice, a police inquiry into child prostitution in the Telford area.

The paper says authorities were warned of the abuse a decade before Operation Chalice.

Despite similar high-profile cases in Rochdale and Rotherham, authorities in Telford repeatedly failed to stamp out a network of abusers.

The Mirror’s 18-month investigation reveals abuse on unprecedented levels. We found:

Social workers knew of abuse in the 1990s but police took a decade to launch a probe
Council staff viewed abused and trafficked children as “prostitutes” instead of victims, according to previously unseen files
Authorities failed to keep details of abusers from Asian communities for fear of “racism”
Police failed to investigate one recent case five times until an MP intervened
One victim said cops tried to stop her finding out why her abusers had not been prosecuted because they feared she would talk to us

http://metro.co.uk/2018/03/11/1000-children-drugged-beaten-raped-telford-grooming-scandal-7377736/


According to twitter (which I was unaware of) this was May's brief before she 'lost' the dossier, then when she became PM it all got swept under the carpet. And the fact that abused children got neglected and left to be abused at least partially out of fear that police thought they would be labelled as 'racist' is so ****ing disgusting I can't bear it.

ceadaoin.

It's still happening all over the UK and continues.to happen even in places where the gangs have supposedly been stopped. Others just take their place. It's sickening that nothing is done about it.

eviltwin

Well connected people involved in the abuse and cover up no doubt

handlemaster

Would it be a shock that the police themselves were involved. It would explain a lot.

Jack Kanoff

1000 children abused.... I can't even imagine that without feeling physically sick

RDM_83 again

eviltwin wrote: »

Well connected people involved in the abuse and cover up no doubt

Involved in minimising the potential fallout but I doubt it will involve anybody that's traditionally viewed as the British establishment carrying out the abuse.

It will likely be the same as other places, a Labour led council that doesn't want to disturb the Pakistani block vote so it views the children of their traditional supporters as disposable.

I may be wrong since it's early days but I doubt it

Raging_Ninja

Another state-sanctioned paedophile ring, protected because it's racist to arrest then or some shít.

Malayalam

I cannot help but wonder when I read about these horrible cases - Rottherham, Rochdale, now Telford - if there is a big element of classism in the handling of them. The wider public must have observed something - indeed powerful people from higher social strata may have been directly involved on some level, although that rarely surfaces evidence-wise. Could there have been a wider societal condescension that regards these young girls (primarily girls, I believe) as being from a lower class, and therefore prone to bad behaviour and recklessness, and thus people looked away and ignored signs of what was happening. Similar to the way for example that the Irish middle classes looked away from the Magdalene laundries, where communities knew what was going on but regarded the women as generally low class ignorant girls who got themselves in trouble and therefore were deserving of their comeuppance. In other words this would probably not happen in the leafier suburbs - there seems something despicably laissez-faire and discriminatory in the whole sick phenomenon.
I could be totally incorrect in this observation.

Vic_08

Malayalam wrote: »

I cannot help but wonder when I read about these horrible cases - Rottherham, Rochdale, now Telford - if there is a big element of classism in the handling of them. The wider public must have observed something - indeed powerful people from higher social strata may have been directly involved on some level, although that rarely surfaces evidence-wise. Could there have been a wider societal condescension that regards these young girls (primarily girls, I believe) as being from a lower class, and therefore prone to bad behaviour and recklessness, and thus people looked away and ignored signs of what was happening. Similar to the way for example that the Irish middle classes looked away from the Magdalene laundries, where communities knew what was going on but regarded the women as generally low class ignorant girls who got themselves in trouble and therefore were deserving of their comeuppance. In other words this would probably not happen in the leafier suburbs - there seems something despicably laissez-faire and discriminatory in the whole sick phenomenon.
I could be totally incorrect in this observation.

You aren't.

That's not to say the toffs aren't at it too. That is part of the problem, they are unlikely to be part of the Pakistani rings but the less fuss that is made of organised Paedo abusers the less chance the establishment rings get a spotlight shone on them as well. It has definitely been in the interest of a lot of powerful people to keep a lid on how widespread and organised the abuse of vulnerable children is.

Malayalam

Vic_08 wrote: »

You aren't.

That's not to say the toffs aren't at it too. That is part of the problem, they are unlikely to be part of the Pakistani rings but the less fuss that is made of organised Paedo abusers the less chance the establishment rings get a spotlight shone on them as well. It has definitely been in the interest of a lot of powerful people to keep a lid on how widespread and organised the abuse of vulnerable children is.

I have heard of it. Read some of the darker stuff, maybe what might be called conspiracy material, though generally avoid it as it's far too disturbing. It's almost impossible to get the head around it. I just don't have words for it.

ceadaoin.

Malayalam wrote: »

I cannot help but wonder when I read about these horrible cases - Rottherham, Rochdale, now Telford - if there is a big element of classism in the handling of them. The wider public must have observed something - indeed powerful people from higher social strata may have been directly involved on some level, although that rarely surfaces evidence-wise. Could there have been a wider societal condescension that regards these young girls (primarily girls, I believe) as being from a lower class, and therefore prone to bad behaviour and recklessness, and thus people looked away and ignored signs of what was happening. Similar to the way for example that the Irish middle classes looked away from the Magdalene laundries, where communities knew what was going on but regarded the women as generally low class ignorant girls who got themselves in trouble and therefore were deserving of their comeuppance. In other words this would probably not happen in the leafier suburbs - there seems something despicably laissez-faire and discriminatory in the whole sick phenomenon.
I could be totally incorrect in this observation.

Lots didn't look away, members of the community made reports and in some cases tried to stop abuse happening but the reports were either ignored or the person trying to do something was punished in some way. I can't remember where it was but I remember a story of a teacher being sacked for trying to stop one of her students getting into a car with her abusers. And there was the dad who was arrested for trying to help his daughter.

It seems to be mainly the police and social services who had the view that these girls weren't worthy of help and who allowed this to go on for decades.

Captain Obvious

RDM_83 again wrote: »

Involved in minimising the potential fallout but I doubt it will involve anybody that's traditionally viewed as the British establishment carrying out the abuse.

It will likely be the same as other places, a Labour led council that doesn't want to disturb the Pakistani block vote so it views the children of their traditional supporters as disposable.

I may be wrong since it's early days but I doubt it

I'd be surprised if that is the case. Some of the cases go back to the 1980's. It's very unlikely this will all be as part of one group. This is likely to be a mix of offenders from all walks of life.

goat2

MilesMorales1 wrote: »

http://metro.co.uk/2018/03/11/1000-children-drugged-beaten-raped-telford-grooming-scandal-7377736/


According to twitter (which I was unaware of) this was May's brief before she 'lost' the dossier, then when she became PM it all got swept under the carpet. And the fact that abused children got neglected and left to be abused at least partially out of fear that police thought they would be labelled as 'racist' is so ****ing disgusting I can't bear it.

was this family members doing the abusing to the children

Richard Hillman

And we're still at the tip of the iceberg. The numbers of confirmed cases in the UK is already close to 6 figures. Those are the ones we know about, it's easily double even treble.

Recreate it in the likes of France, Belgium, Holland, Germany, Sweden etc, were talking about a 7 figure number of girls that have been affected by these groups.

Towns like Rotherham (Population 100,000) Telford (150,000) and we have 4 digit figures of abused girls in each town. Replicate that in the Cities, St Denis, Tower Hamlets, Molenbeek, Malmo, Bradford, the list goes on and on. Sickening.

ceadaoin.

Richard Hillman wrote: »

And we're still at the tip of the iceberg. The numbers of confirmed cases in the UK is already close to 6 figures. Those are the ones we know about, it's easily double even treble.

Recreate it in the likes of France, Belgium, Holland, Germany, Sweden etc, were talking about a 7 figure number of girls that have been affected by these groups.

Towns like Rotherham (Population 100,000) Telford (150,000) and we have 4 digit figures of abused girls in each town. Replicate that in the Cities, St Denis, Tower Hamlets, Molenbeek, Malmo, Bradford, the list goes on and on. Sickening.

Have there actually been similar cases uncovered in the cities you mention in France and Belgium?

British Muslims are far less "liberal" on the whole than those on the continent so I would guess it happens less on the continent than in the UK.

RDM_83 again

[Deleted User] wrote: »

British Muslims are far less "liberal" on the whole than those on the continent so I would guess it happens less on the continent than in the UK.

While religion might play a part from whats been seen before it's a Pakistani and some Bangladeshis thing
E.g it's quiet a narrow geographic background generally, focussing on just the religious aspect alone just allows people to dismiss it.

RDM_83 again

RDM_83 again wrote: »

While religion might play a part from whats been seen before it's a Pakistani and some Bangladeshis thing
E.g it's quiet a narrow geographic background generally, focussing on just the religious aspect alone just allows people to dismiss it.

And Turks... And Iraqis... And Indians. There's a common denominator and it's silly to pretend otherwise.

Tangatagamadda Chaddabinga Bonga Bungo

Even this Nostradamus/Einstein knew what was up over 7 years ago. But the police did nothing. Really sad and dark situation.

When you think about thousands of children being raped over decades by gangs, you're talking about a really broken society.

MilesMorales1

**** the Labour party also not just the tories. They all facilitated this.

end of the road

Tangatagamadda Chaddabinga Bonga Bungo wrote: »

When you think about thousands of children being raped over decades by gangs, you're talking about a really broken society.

agreed, and that is what britain has been for a long time. a very broken society.

Autochange

end of the road wrote: »

agreed, and that is what britain has been for a long time. a very broken society.

Take Britain now as to what Ireland will be like in 30 years.

Ulysses Gaze

Tangatagamadda Chaddabinga Bonga Bungo wrote: »

Even this Nostradamus/Einstein knew what was up over 7 years ago. But the police did nothing. Really sad and dark situation.

When you think about thousands of children being raped over decades by gangs, you're talking about a really broken society.

The Remix is where it is at

Ulysses Gaze

MilesMorales1 wrote: »

**** the Labour party also not just the tories. They all facilitated this.

Reality is though, the Labour Party dominate the councils and public services in these towns.

Mutant z

This is the sort of ultra PC sickness which is inflicting the UK certain votes are considered to be of a far greater importance than young girls lives it's disgusting.

MilesMorales1

Ulysses Gaze wrote: »

Reality is though, the Labour Party dominate the councils and public services in these towns.

It's disgusting so it is. Allowing young girls to be sacrificed for votes, or fear of losing votes.

Ulysses Gaze

Mutant z wrote: »

This is the sort of ultra PC sickness which is inflicting the UK certain votes are considered to be of a far greater importance than young girls lives it's disgusting.

Well according to that very visible feminist halfwit Lily Allen, these working class girls would probably have been raped anyway!

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-5246685/Lily-Allen-sparks-fury-Rochdale-grooming-victims.html

Ulysses Gaze

MilesMorales1 wrote: »

It's disgusting so it is. Allowing young girls to be sacrificed for votes, or fear of losing votes.

It's a fear of losing votes, but it is also a fear of proving that certain, less than palatable right wing politicians (ahem Nick Griffin) were right along when they brought this to light over a decade ago.

SnakePlissken

But but But, the Roman Catholic Church.... something, something.

Anything to try and deviate from the current issue being discussed.

Mutant z

ceadaoin. wrote: »

It's still happening all over the UK and continues.to happen even in places where the gangs have supposedly been stopped. Others just take their place. It's sickening that nothing is done about it.

In the UK they suppress anything that portrays multiculturalism in a negative light so they just ignore all this stuff and hope it all goes away.

Ulysses Gaze

Mutant z wrote: »

In the UK they suppress anything that portrays multiculturalism in a negative light so they just ignore all this stuff and hope it all goes away.

Look what happened to Sarah Champion when she spoke up. She is the elected Labour MP for Rotherham who believes that up to 1 million girls in the UK have been groomed by mainly Pakistani Muslims. She also stated that she still gets 1 to 3 girls a week coming to her clinic complaining about continued abuse.

She had to resign as shadow equalities minister because she wrote an article that highlighted that Britain has a problem with Pakistani men abusing white girls. She was pilloried by the Labour Party and Corbyn's supporters in Momentum and quit. She was called an Islamophobe, racist and a bigot.

The_Kew_Tour

Poor children. Feck me that's disgusting and hope the badlands who did it are name and shared and locked up.

goose2005

Malayalam wrote: »

I cannot help but wonder when I read about these horrible cases - Rottherham, Rochdale, now Telford - if there is a big element of classism in the handling of them. The wider public must have observed something - indeed powerful people from higher social strata may have been directly involved on some level, although that rarely surfaces evidence-wise. Could there have been a wider societal condescension that regards these young girls (primarily girls, I believe) as being from a lower class, and therefore prone to bad behaviour and recklessness, and thus people looked away and ignored signs of what was happening. Similar to the way for example that the Irish middle classes looked away from the Magdalene laundries, where communities knew what was going on but regarded the women as generally low class ignorant girls who got themselves in trouble and therefore were deserving of their comeuppance. In other words this would probably not happen in the leafier suburbs - there seems something despicably laissez-faire and discriminatory in the whole sick phenomenon.
I could be totally incorrect in this observation.

I can remember reading about Fred and Rosemary West, they were incredibly sloppy and careless in their crimes but got away with it for a long time because they targeted drifters and runaways who no-one would miss. I think of 12 victims, only 6 were reported missing.

ceadaoin.

Ulysses Gaze wrote: »

Look what happened to Sarah Champion when she spoke up. She is the elected Labour MP for Rotherham who believes that up to 1 million girls in the UK have been groomed by mainly Pakistani Muslims. She also stated that she still gets 1 to 3 girls a week coming to her clinic complaining about continued abuse.

She had to resign as shadow equalities minister because she wrote an article that highlighted that Britain has a problem with Pakistani men abusing white girls. She was pilloried by the Labour Party and Corbyn's supporters in Momentum and quit. She was called an Islamophobe, racist and a bigot.

There is something very sinister happening in the labour party and particularly momentum IMO. She's not the the only woman to be forced out in this way in recent times for "wrong think". They are becoming more and more authoritarian.

Pepefrogok

Tangatagamadda Chaddabinga Bonga Bungo wrote: »

Even this Nostradamus/Einstein knew what was up over 7 years ago. But the police did nothing. Really sad and dark situation.

When you think about thousands of children being raped over decades by gangs, you're talking about a really broken society.

I remember this is the main thing that made me question liberalism and pushed me to the right, I seen young men coming together out of desperation trying to protect their communities, now they certainly weren't eloquent or well organised but they were doing all they could, the entire machine of the left, the media, the leftist government of the day to protect their votes and the security services all joined to fight and silence them, you still today even on this forum usually by people trying to deflect will utter "muslamic ray guns" mocking this poor man who was simply trying to highlight Muslim rape gangs raping children in his community, history has shown him to be correct and the lefties who mocked him as enablers for racist grooming gangs. When you read why Tommy Robinson started the EDL you can have nothing but sympathy for him and look how he is treated now! The cover up of crimes and shutting down of dissenting voices is still active, here's a video of Tommy and his camera woman being attacked a few days ago, the police instantly told him they wouldn't be investigating it, that's unreal.
https://youtu.be/Nn5RtDC-roI

Then just look at his last few posts, first two people from GI came over to interview him, theyvseem held for three days!

"Hours after landing in Vienna following their release from a UK immigration detention centre, I sat down with Martin Sellner and Brittany Pettibone to discuss their ordeal, and to talk about the unfair and unreasonable harassment they have faced simply because of their conservative views | FULL CLIP: https://goo.gl/PVAK7N"

Then Laura has been held at Calais, Calais ffs, look at the people who get in there! This is madness.

"So Lauren southern has been arrested & detained . She is currently in a detention facility in Calais under police control. We allow Isis fighter & radical Islamic preachers into our country yet we are detaining American & now Canadian female journalists who report the truth"

Update

"It looks like they are about to deport Lauren southern from not just Britain but from Europe. The racism they speak about is the enforcement of blasphemy laws . Lauren criticised Islam in Luton she never mentioned or spoke about race. These are dark times for Britain"

Pepefrogok

https://www.westmonster.com/bbc-pretty-much-ignores-telford-child-grooming-scandal/

A good question, perhaps the largest grooming gangs even and not on the news? Can only imagine the reaction if it was gangs of white people attacking children of ethnic minorities. I think more and more are opening their eyes to all this now.

Pepefrogok

Pepefrogok wrote: »

https://www.westmonster.com/bbc-pretty-much-ignores-telford-child-grooming-scandal/

A good question, perhaps the largest grooming gangs even and not on the news? Can only imagine the reaction if it was gangs of white people attacking children of ethnic minorities. I think more and more are opening their eyes to all this now.

this gang?

http://www.bbc.com/news/uk-england-shropshire-13766736

Doltanian

The Prophet Mohammad was a pedophile, as a rolemodel for the greater Muslim community it is obvious to reason that a small minority of his followers will also follow some of the Prophets more extreme teachings. However a small minority of nearly 2billion followers is still a hell of alot of seriously bad dudes

However this is not questioned or allowed to be challenged because of leftwing political correctness.

Roman Catholic Pedophile priests bad

Islamic Pedophile Gangs, good and culturally enriching mmmmkay

Aegir

Aegir wrote: »

this gang?

http://www.bbc.com/news/uk-england-shropshire-13766736

Sweet Jesus Christ that article is disgusting. The Prosecutor ffs said that some of the girls were "in love" with the perpetrators. ****ing hell.

markodaly

Ulysses Gaze wrote: »

Well according to that very visible feminist halfwit Lily Allen, these working class girls would probably have been raped anyway!

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-5246685/Lily-Allen-sparks-fury-Rochdale-grooming-victims.html

Brilliant! People like her go to hell and back to protect their ideology. She is a brainwashed loon. I wonder will any of her friends no-platform her?

quintana76

Proves what the reality has been all the time. A class war on working class whites by middle class over privleged know-nothings and their media buddies.

Red_Wake

When people pretend facts are incorrect to enable their beliefs, you can expect sick individuals to find room in the gaps to abuse others.

ceadaoin.

Pepefrogok wrote: »

I remember this is the main thing that made me question liberalism and pushed me to the right, I seen young men coming together out of desperation trying to protect their communities, now they certainly weren't eloquent or well organised but they were doing all they could, the entire machine of the left, the media, the leftist government of the day to protect their votes and the security services all joined to fight and silence them, you still today even on this forum usually by people trying to deflect will utter "muslamic ray guns" mocking this poor man who was simply trying to highlight Muslim rape gangs raping children in his community, history has shown him to be correct and the lefties who mocked him as enablers for racist grooming gangs. When you read why Tommy Robinson started the EDL you can have nothing but sympathy for him and look how he is treated now! The cover up of crimes and shutting down of dissenting voices is still active, here's a video of Tommy and his camera woman being attacked a few days ago, the police instantly told him they wouldn't be investigating it, that's unreal.
https://youtu.be/Nn5RtDC-roI

Then just look at his last few posts, first two people from GI came over to interview him, theyvseem held for three days!

"Hours after landing in Vienna following their release from a UK immigration detention centre, I sat down with Martin Sellner and Brittany Pettibone to discuss their ordeal, and to talk about the unfair and unreasonable harassment they have faced simply because of their conservative views | FULL CLIP: https://goo.gl/PVAK7N"

Then Laura has been held at Calais, Calais ffs, look at the people who get in there! This is madness.

"So Lauren southern has been arrested & detained . She is currently in a detention facility in Calais under police control. We allow Isis fighter & radical Islamic preachers into our country yet we are detaining American & now Canadian female journalists who report the truth"

Update

"It looks like they are about to deport Lauren southern from not just Britain but from Europe. The racism they speak about is the enforcement of blasphemy laws . Lauren criticised Islam in Luton she never mentioned or spoke about race. These are dark times for Britain"

Remember when a journalist who was planning to investigate the jersey care home abuse was also detained at Heathrow and banned from entering the UK? Scary stuff alright


https://www.vice.com/en_us/article/xd4954/the-journalist-who-was-banned-from-investigating-jerseys-child-abuse

Also, in recent days, a woman has been arrested, questioned and banned from leaving the company for criticising a children's transgender charity in Twitter

Meanwhile, a woman who criticised a transgender charity on Twitter has been questioned under caution by police and told she will be arrested if she tries to leave the country. Kellie-Jay Keen- Minshull accused the group Mermaids of “suppressing free speech”.

She had accused Mermaids, which calls for children to be allowed irreversible sex-change treatment the NHS currently prohibits, of “prey[ing]” on gay teenagers and of “mass child abuse”. Mermaids declined to comment.

So the police will take action for that, but grooming and abusing thousands of girls over decades is allowed to happen? Doesn't make sense

Skullface McGubbin

So like Rotherham, what we have here is another case where establishment figures will go great lengths to conform to political correctness to the extent that they would let stuff like this go on for as long as it did unchallenged & ignored because they don't want be seen as racist.

It shows a very important fact that political correctness is not harmless.

suicide_circus

Rule number 1: DON'T UPSET THE MINORITIES

jmayo

eviltwin wrote: »

Well connected people involved in the abuse and cover up no doubt

Only in the cover ups as in Rochdale, Rotherham, Newcastle, etc, etc.

Vic_08 wrote: »

You aren't.

That's not to say the toffs aren't at it too. That is part of the problem, they are unlikely to be part of the Pakistani rings but the less fuss that is made of organised Paedo abusers the less chance the establishment rings get a spotlight shone on them as well. It has definitely been in the interest of a lot of powerful people to keep a lid on how widespread and organised the abuse of vulnerable children is.

Yes there have been toff paedo rings, but lets just discuss the elephant or should that be the camel in the room.

A girl, her mother and sister were murdered by her abuser one Ali Mehmood, 26 when he set fire to her house in 2000 in Telford.

In 2002 another girl was killed in an explained car accident that had reported being groomed by an "Asian" gang.

Seven men jailed in 2013 following police probe into Telford area child prostitution included
Mubarek Ali, 34, and his brother Ahdel Ali, 27 who were both jailed for sexually abusing, trafficking, and prostituting teens.

The above referenced BBC article includes

Nine men deny a range of sexual offences against seven girls in Shropshire.

The men, who are aged between 21 and 59 and from Telford, face more than 50 charges at Stafford Crown Court.

Charges include rape, controlling child prostitution and sexual activity with girls under the age of 16

One of the defendants is accused of trafficking a child in the UK for exploitation.

The men on trial are Ahdel Ali, 23, Murbarek Ali, 28, Mohammed Ali Sultan, 24, Tanveer Ahmed, 39, Mahroof Khan, 33, Noshad Hussain, 21, Mohammed Islam Choudhrey, 52, Mohammed Younis, 59 and 34-year-old Abdul Rouf.

They deny all of the charges, which relate to the alleged sexual abuse and exploitation of girls in Wellington between September 2007 and December 2009.

The victims are seven teenage girls, one of whom was 13 years old at the time the alleged offences were committed.

And the prosecutor made this statement...

She said the case was not about race, religion, colour or creed and it was not claimed that the men had a specific interest in children or that it was a "paedophile ring".

Fooks sake one doesn't have to be a member of the FBI's Behavioral Analysis Unit to figure the common thread amongst all the perpetrators in these cases.

Now I could show pics of all the scumbags listed , but the last time that happened we ended up having a discussion about people's skin colour rather than their cultural backgrounds.

BTW rather than try twist these stories about toffs, establishment, police possible being involved in the abuse lets discuss the fact that the overwhelming numbers involved in this come from a muslim background. :rolleyes:

And it is a gross insult to Chinese, Indians, Filipinos, Japanese, etc to label the background of the perps as simply Asian.

And people still attack the ones that have been warning of this for years as fascists, bigots and far right loons.

Deleted User

Deleted User wrote: »

Sweet Jesus Christ that article is disgusting. The Prosecutor ffs said that some of the girls were "in love" with the perpetrators. ****ing hell.

that's how grooming more or less works. Older men with money shower their victims with gifts, drugs etc and they eventually fall in live and do whatever they want.

Mrs OBumble

end of the road wrote: »

agreed, and that is what britain has been for a long time. a very broken society.

Says the man whose society featured industrial schools for decades after the Brits had closed theirs, Magdalene laundries, Grace, Aras Attracta, etc.


Just how well do ye think that the welfare system in Ireland protects girls aged 14-17 who go into care here - especially foreign ones who are unaccompanied. Do you ever see reports about them going missing?

This is about power and perversion, not race.

wakka12

Evil ***** who didn't report child abuse for fear of being racist should be hanged alongside the paedophiles

Aegir

Aegir wrote: »

that's how grooming more or less works. Older men with money shower their victims with gifts, drugs etc and they eventually fall in live and do whatever they want.

The prosecutor shouldn't be putting it that way. They were coerced and all the rest. It's like saying that the victims enjoyed the attention, that's something for the scumbag defence to say.

Mrs OBumble

Mrs OBumble wrote: »

This is about power and perversion, not race.

Pure bull**** and outright lies.