Job Seekers Allowance

billytheboy

Hi All

Anyone know what is the maximum household income amount allowed on the Dept's Mean Test in order to qualify for JSA. Ballpark figure !

wifey28

in and around 400 a week i think

splinter65

billytheboy wrote: »

Hi All

Anyone know what is the maximum household income amount allowed on the Dept's Mean Test in order to qualify for JSA. Ballpark figure !

It all depends on who is living in your house and how they are dependent on the claimant

Pronto63

splinter65 wrote: »

It all depends on who is living in your house and how they are dependent on the claimant

It's kinda complicated and depends on circumstances.

What is makeup of household?
Are you under 25 and living with parents or are you living with partner?

splinter65

Pronto63 wrote: »

It's kinda complicated and depends on circumstances.

What is makeup of household?
Are you under 25 and living with parents or are you living with partner?

I’m not the OP pronto.

troyzer

Sorry to resurrect a zombie thread but I'm having this now.

I'm 26 and I live at home with my parents. My Dad is taking an annoyingly principled stand on this and doesn't see why he should have to disclose his income to the dole office so I can sign on.

What's going to happen when I walk in and say that?

troyzer

troyzer wrote: »

Sorry to resurrect a zombie thread but I'm having this now.

I'm 26 and I live at home with my parents. My Dad is taking an annoyingly principled stand on this and doesn't see why he should have to disclose his income to the dole office so I can sign on.

What's going to happen when I walk in and say that?

Once you have reached your 25th birthday, your parents' incomes, even if you are living with them, are not taken into account in the means test for a Jobseekers payment.

When you apply for Jobseeker's Allowance, your means are assessed to see whether you will qualify. If you are 24 years of age or under and you are living with a parent or a step-parent in the family home, your parents' income is also taken into account. The Department of Employment Affairs and Social Protection call this an assessment of the benefit and privilege you get from living with your parents. https://www.citizensinformation.ie/en/social_welfare/irish_social_welfare_system/means_test_for_social_welfare_payments/how_parents_income_can_affect_jobseekers_allowance.html

troyzer

Balagan1 wrote: »

troyzer wrote: »

Sorry to resurrect a zombie thread but I'm having this now.

I'm 26 and I live at home with my parents. My Dad is taking an annoyingly principled stand on this and doesn't see why he should have to disclose his income to the dole office so I can sign on.

What's going to happen when I walk in and say that?

Once you have reached your 25th birthday, your parents' incomes, even if you are living with them, are not taken into account in the means test for a Jobseekers payment.

When you apply for Jobseeker's Allowance, your means are assessed to see whether you will qualify. If you are 24 years of age or under and you are living with a parent or a step-parent in the family home, your parents' income is also taken into account. The Department of Employment Affairs and Social Protection call this an assessment of the benefit and privilege you get from living with your parents. https://www.citizensinformation.ie/en/social_welfare/irish_social_welfare_system/means_test_for_social_welfare_payments/how_parents_income_can_affect_jobseekers_allowance.html

Yeah, I thought this. And that section is on the form.

But it does still ask you for the income of everyone you live with.

troyzer

troyzer wrote: »

Yeah, I thought this. And that section is on the form.

But it does still ask you for the income of everyone you live with.

Just put "Does not apply. Am over 25 and not residing with spouse/partner/cohabitant".

Jupiter Mulligan

troyzer wrote: »

I'm 26 and I live at home with my parents. My Dad is taking an annoyingly principled stand on this and doesn't see why he should have to disclose his income to the dole office so I can sign on.

What's going to happen when I walk in and say that?

Your father mustn't be aware that Social Welfare can easily obtain this information from Revenue should they wish to. He probably doesn't want you to know that he's a very wealthy man!

St. Lupulin

troyzer wrote: »

Sorry to resurrect a zombie thread but I'm having this now.

I'm 26 and I live at home with my parents. My Dad is taking an annoyingly principled stand on this and doesn't see why he should have to disclose his income to the dole office so I can sign on.

What's going to happen when I walk in and say that?

Fill out the entire form bar your Da's salary....


Then tell your Da to fill in the salary part and then instantly seal the envelope himself.

splinter65

St. Lupulin wrote: »

Fill out the entire form bar your Da's salary....


Then tell your Da to fill in the salary part and then instantly seal the envelope himself.

This is unnecessary . Just leave it blank. When the deciding officer is processing the form he/she will know that the claimant is 26+.

troyzer

Cheers. I ended up just giving it blank and she said not to worry about it.

My new problem now is that I worked up the north last year whilst living in the south and they want my P45 from when I was up there.

My previous employer sent the P45 to my northern address which I had then left despite telling them to send it my address in the south. So I don't have a P45 and in the UK you're not able to get a second one.

Nobody answering the phones of course.

Pronto63

troyzer wrote: »

Cheers. I ended up just giving it blank and she said not to worry about it.

My new problem now is that I worked up the north last year whilst living in the south and they want my P45 from when I was up there.

My previous employer sent the P45 to my northern address which I had then left despite telling them to send it my address in the south. So I don't have a P45 and in the UK you're not able to get a second one.

Nobody answering the phones of course.

Get a letter from your NI employer.

troyzer

Pronto63 wrote: »

troyzer wrote: »

Cheers. I ended up just giving it blank and she said not to worry about it.

My new problem now is that I worked up the north last year whilst living in the south and they want my P45 from when I was up there.

My previous employer sent the P45 to my northern address which I had then left despite telling them to send it my address in the south. So I don't have a P45 and in the UK you're not able to get a second one.

Nobody answering the phones of course.

Get a letter from your NI employer.

Saying what?

Pronto63

troyzer wrote: »

Saying what?

That you're no longer employed there!
Also date you finished.

troyzer

Pronto63 wrote: »

troyzer wrote: »

Saying what?

That you're no longer employed there!
Also date you finished.

Is that what they're looking for with the P45? I'll see who I still know there. This was a year ago and the company has since been bought out and gone private

Pronto63

troyzer wrote: »

Is that what they're looking for with the P45? I'll see who I still know there. This was a year ago and the company has since been bought out and gone private

Yes.

You need to prove that you are not working.

splinter65

troyzer wrote: »

Saying what?

Remember, It’s not up to SW to prove that you’re still working there.
It’s up to you to prove that you’re not.
The burden of proof is on the claimant.

LirW

I have a question along those lines too: I'm on JSA but a reduced rate, my husband is going to start a new job that pays significantly more during the summer. I assume once he starts I inform Intreo and sign off? Would they need another means test?

splinter65

LirW wrote: »

I have a question along those lines too: I'm on JSA but a reduced rate, my husband is going to start a new job that pays significantly more during the summer. I assume once he starts I inform Intreo and sign off? Would they need another means test?

Around what kind of weekly gross pay will your husband have and how many dependent kids have you got?

LirW

splinter65 wrote: »

Around what kind of weekly gross pay will your husband have and how many dependent kids have you got?

North of 700 and 2 kids.

splinter65

LirW wrote: »

North of 700 and 2 kids.

You might get €10.