The Carnivore Diet

CM24

Has anyone else been reading about this? It's not something I would consider, and I scoffed at it at first, but I'm seeing more and more testimonials from people saying that they feel great on it.

This guy, for instance. He's pretty well respected and I had been following him for years even before he decided to do this diet, and he seems to support it.
http://borgefagerli.com/the-zero-carb-experience/

It got popular when this former Doctor went onto the Joe Rogan Podcast to talk about it.

The diet literally consists of only eating meat, and nothing else. No fruits/veggies, carbs, nothing! There's a Facebook group where people claim to have been eating this way for years, and haven't had any issues, only benefits.

Thoughts? Fad or legit?

Dtp1979

We should really get this thread merged with the vegan one

ford2600

It must be expensive, unless you are eating a lot of mince.

I spent time with an African Hunter gatherer tribe; it is primarily a miserable existence. Animals get smart quickly and there is a lot of work in hunting them down.

I'm not sure there in any pre industrial civilisation where all the civilisation would have eaten meat to the level of your modern strength training athlete, not to mind a diet made up of all meat.

As much as I like roast mountain lamb, beef stews etc, this diet would get boring pretty quickly

Brian?

ford2600 wrote: »

It must be expensive, unless you are eating a lot of mince.

I spent time with an African Hunter gatherer tribe; it is primarily a miserable existence. Animals get smart quickly and there is a lot of work in hunting them down.

I'm not sure there in any pre industrial civilisation where all the civilisation would have eaten meat to the level of your modern strength training athlete, not to mind a diet made up of all meat.

As much as I like roast mountain lamb, beef stews etc, this diet would get boring pretty quickly

I love meat more than most people, but I honestly don't think I could do this diet. The monotony would kill me. You can't even eat stew, it's just meat.

You can pry my cake from my cold dead hands
Also my veggies

ford2600

Brian? wrote: »

I love meat more than most people, but I honestly don't think I could do this diet. The monotony would kill me. You can't even eat stew, it's just meat.

I've regularly eaten a plate of just meat, 6 or 7 large slow roasted lamb chops or a very large steak but every meal no thanks.

I think I could do it easily for a week, with one meal a day; if I got sick of it I could just fast :pac:

The bit about needing less Vitamin C when on a low/zero sugar diet was interesting a long with some of the other comments on mirco nutrients, but it could be all boll1x of course

jive

Find any diet and you will find morons posting about how great it is, how great they feel and how they can't believe everyone else isn't doing this.

I've no idea who this guy is but seeing as he's going on Joe Rogan to plug the diet I assume he is selling something which unlocks the magical fairy nutrients of the meat (e.g. MCT brain engine oil) or he is selling meal plans.

Not only is a meat only diet 100% unhealthy but it would be incomprehensibly boring after about 2 days. At least when people plug other diets like keto you can see there being some reason why people flock to it like moths to a lightbulb, I don't know why anyone would actually want to do this.

caviardreams

Brian? wrote: »

I love meat more than most people, but I honestly don't think I could do this diet. The monotony would kill me. You can't even eat stew, it's just meat.

I only skimmed the article linked above tbh, but from what I read he also ate eggs and cheese. A cheese diet is definitely something I could get behind

Brian?

caviardreams wrote: »

I only skimmed the article linked above tbh, but from what I read he also ate eggs and cheese. A cheese diet is definitely something I could get behind

Yeah I saw that. Eggs and cheese are my 2nd and 3rd favourite foods after beef. But even then, it would become boring.

Alf Veedersane

Anything called The _______ Diet will invariably be bollôcks.

weemcd

You'd be lacking a lot of dietary fibre. I'd imagine this would be very hard on the digestion. Your breath would stink. The benefits of eating vegetables are very well documented at this stage, and this could also include a small amount of fruit.

Never mind the fact that it would be incredibly boring. And I'm not one for eating salads at all, but I do get plenty of vegetables with my meals.

Sounds like the Atkins diet that was a fad in the early 00’s

CM24

weemcd wrote: »

You'd be lacking a lot of dietary fibre. I'd imagine this would be very hard on the digestion. Your breath would stink. The benefits of eating vegetables are very well documented at this stage, and this could also include a small amount of fruit.

Never mind the fact that it would be incredibly boring. And I'm not one for eating salads at all, but I do get plenty of vegetables with my meals.

This was my initial reaction aswell. I thought we needed vegetables for the fibre and micronutrients. But this doctor claims you get all the nutrients you need through meat, and his digestive system feels much better without all the fibre.

Personally I eat a lot of vegetables with most meals, but having to poop several times a day does get annoying!

freemenfitness

I have had friends who have done it all of them got bored after a month and quit it. Most lost weight on it some a lot.

You can get the nutrients you need from just meat the body gets better at absorbing low levels from the meat but you also need to eat raw meat and fat to be sure.

As for fibre I was told you end up doing tiny rabbit like poops and breath wise you end up going into a keto state and the breath tends to not be an issue.

A life without eggs and cheese would not be worth living.

Blacktie.

freemenfitness wrote: »

breath wise you end up going into a keto state and the breath tends to not be an issue.

I thought going into the keto state is what causes the awful breath???

Mr. CooL ICE

freemenfitness wrote: »

You can get the nutrients you need from just meat the body gets better at absorbing low levels from the meat but you also need to eat raw meat and fat to be sure.

Raw meat? Hmm.

I'd have imagined that as long as you ate the organs too and didn't rely on lean cuts of muscle tissue, you'd hit all the bases. Kinda why seal eating eskimos don't get scurvy. Or is that necessary?

freemenfitness

Aint done it so cant be 100% sure although while my last friend tried it his was ok. But was not frenching him either.

On the raw meat / fat thing, I looked into it a while back the reason inuits don't get scurvy was for this reason the vit C was coming from raw fats and meat. Heating food greatly reduces its vitamin C content and boiling even more so which brings the need for raw food.

I can dig up the paper if you want its an interesting read there are 2 I know of the one I read was a Norwegian guy who lived with the inuit and ate a meat only diet for a year as nobody would believe him went he returned. The inuit do have some plants in their diet but he went all in to prove meat only could be done.

Dial Hard

freemenfitness wrote: »

he went all in to prove meat only could be done.

Just because something can be done doesn't mean it should be.

I love my meat but can't imagine a life without fresh veg and salad. I can't understand why anyone would do that to themselves.

Mellor

I do keto, and don't mind it at all. But this sounds awful. No thanks

CastielJ

all this diet are worthless, just find a balance in food