The majority people of Tallaght need to stand up**MOD Warning Post 1, 478**

handlemaster

https://m.independent.ie/irish-news/crime/garda-investigating-as-six-cars-burnt-out-in-west-dublin-36665545.html

These activites need to be stopped. The good people of Tallaght need to stand together and work with the Gardai to put an end to this.

MOD Just take note that there is currently a case before the courts in relation to this incident so in light of that we are not to discuss the court case or people involved etc.

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h2005

Are you from Tallaght yourself?

Gatling

Road clearance crews have had to withdraw from several areas in tallaght due to anti social behaviour ,
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Nothing will change too many **** heads living mostly social housing causing most of trouble unfortunately till they solve that it's carry on as normal

h2005

h2005 wrote: »

Are you from Tallaght yourself?

what difference would that make?

tayto lover

Gatling wrote: »

Road clearance crews have had to withdraw from several areas in tallaght due to anti social behaviour ,
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Nothing will change too many **** heads living mostly social housing causing most of trouble unfortunately till they solve that it's carry on as normal

They should bring in a few slurry tanks. Give them what they are.

Cash_Q

handlemaster wrote:

These activites need to be stopped. The good people of Tallaght need to stand together and work with the Gardai to put an end to this.

What is it you suggest we do?

corks finest

tayto lover wrote: »

They should bring in a few slurry tanks. Give them what they are.

Rovers supporters,I don't know

limnam

handlemaster wrote: »

https://m.independent.ie/irish-news/crime/garda-investigating-as-six-cars-burnt-out-in-west-dublin-36665545.html

These activites need to be stopped. The good people of Tallaght need to stand together and work with the Gardai to put an end to this.

You seem to have a good handle on how this could be done.

What's your plan?

dexter_morgan

I would like to see a car explode and take out a few of these wasters. Or at least cause some severe permanent injuries!

Herb Powell

h2005 wrote: »

Are you from Tallaght yourself?

Oh my god, you can't just ask someone if they're from Tallaght

TheQuietFella

Gatling wrote: »

Road clearance crews have had to withdraw from several areas in tallaght due to anti social behaviour ,
.
Nothing will change too many **** heads living mostly social housing causing most of trouble unfortunately till they solve that it's carry on as normal

And people then wonder why there is a reduction in social housing!

To hell with social housing and let people 'WORK' to but their own!

If they can't find work well leave the country.

Plenty of countries looking for people!

These people if caught should have welfare stopped and if they are working

they should be severely fined!

Hitman3000

handlemaster wrote:

These activites need to be stopped. The good people of Tallaght need to stand together and work with the Gardai to put an end to this.

Any thoughts or suggestions yourself?

h2005

barrier86 wrote: »

what difference would that make?

Well the poster could be the first to stand up as obviously the majority are in need of his/her leadership

punisher5112

Tallaght... Great bunch of lads.


Seriously parents need to become a hell of a lot more responsible and actually bring their kids up.


More Garda and zero tolerance approach.

Too many wannabe gangs and anti social behaviour.

Better laws and fix the legal system including prison's.

ToddyDoody

Which was better.. trapping Joan Burton or bulldozing the Lidl?

SEPT 23 1989

more facilities is the answer a pony for every child

SnakePlissken

Tallaght is on the Southside of Dublin not the west as that article repeatedly claims, is some hack journalist from Dundrum or Sandyford so embarresed of Tallaght that it wants to offload it to us Westsiders? Well we don't bloody want it.

spurious

punisher5112 wrote: »

Seriously parents need to become a hell of a lot more responsible and actually bring their kids up.

This. A thousand times this.

At a minimum don't bring kids to watch the scum carrying out their criminal activities.

Timberrrrrrrr

Herb Powell wrote: »

Oh my god, you can't just ask someone if they're from Tallaght

Placeism

tayto lover

Some good suggestions BUT i'd stick with the slurry.
I'd have slurry patrols. Everytime more that two lads appear together i'd spray them. Good smelly stuff now.

backspin.

I'm thinking on Tallaght for the summer holidays this year. Anything nice to do down there?

Del2005

dexter_morgan wrote: »

I would like to see a car explode and take out a few of these wasters. Or at least cause some severe permanent injuries!

They unfortunately seem to have an ability to survive severe crashes without injury and if they do get permanent serve injuries we'll just have to pay more for their care.
Hitting the pockets is the only solution but our bleeding hearts worry too much about scumbags so nothing will happen.

Poor Uncle Tom

TheQuietFella wrote: »

And people then wonder why there is a reduction in social housing!

To hell with social housing and let people 'WORK' to but their own!

If they can't find work well leave the country.

It should be mandatory for anyone getting a social house to be sterilised...

backspin.

backspin. wrote: »

I'm thinking on Tallaght for the summer holidays this year. Anything nice to do down there?

You mean a Tallaghtfornication?

limnam

Timberrrrrrrr wrote: »

Probably the most idiotic post I have read on here in a very long time.

You missed the looting thread yesterday obviously.

hmmm

They had this problem in Limerick, and they tried splitting them up and moving individual families to "normal" estates in the name of regeneration - they ended up trashing the estates they went to, and working people who are paying for all this are sick of having them in their estates.

Anyone with any bit of drive or care for their kids made sure to get out of the social housing estates, so you were left with the dregs.

I'm not sure what you can do, but they seem to have a lot of time on their hands. Most countries don't pay you the dole forever, and at some point you are forced to get a job - even if that's sweeping the roads or cutting grass in hedges. These lads need something to do.

limnam

Poor Uncle Tom wrote: »

It should be mandatory for anyone getting a social house to be sterilised...

Spot on Tom.

tringle

Curfew for under 18s and no more than groups of 3 or 4 together for anyone under 25. It seems to be a gang mentality that sets these things off

And make the parents responsible for under 18s, if they don't take responsibility then cut the social welfare for that " child".

cajonlardo

All this crap started with 2 things.

When scumbags " knew their rights" and when scumbags managed to convince people that reporting criminal activity was " ratting" rather than their Civic duty.

I remember in the early 70s a waster screaming in a Garda face " I know my rights.." and the Garda said " well here's another right for ya" and flattened the scumbag with a haymaker

Anyway, people need to report crime - no excuses when there's a confidential line for anyone with safety concerns.

Oh, and don't know why tallaght is being singled out. Some of the best people I've met live there.
Pick up the phone people - it's good to talk

limnam

cajonlardo wrote: »

All this crap started with 2 things.

When scumbags " knew their rights" and when scumbags managed to convince people that reporting criminal activity was " ratting" rather than their Civic duty.

I remember in the early 70s a waster screaming in a Garda face " I know my rights.." and the Garda said " well here's another right for ya" and flattened the scumbag with a haymaker

Anyway, people need to report crime - no excuses when there's a confidential line for anyone with safety concerns.

Oh, and don't know why tallaght is being singled out. Some of the best people I've met live there.
Pick up the phone people - it's good to talk

Guards been scumbags.

That's exactly what will fix it.

Míshásta

I'm not from Dublin, but doesn't Tallaght cover a huge area and have a large population?.

I can't see how they all can be held responsible for the activities of a hoodlum element taking advantage of an unprecedented weather event.

optogirl

Tallaght is by no means alone. Have heard of a few shops around the country getting robbed and some low lifes in Meath stole electrical equipment from a special needs school last night. I doubt if there will be as much vitriolic tweeting at the people of Meath. I do agree that commandeering a JCB is next level looting but sadly people who are incapable of living outside their own hard man/hard done by persona are everywhere.

Effects

punisher5112 wrote: »

Seriously parents need to become a hell of a lot more responsible and actually bring their kids up.

That's not going to happen. The parents of these kids were probably just like them at that age and haven't changed that much.

Gatling

Gatling wrote: »

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Nothing will change too many **** heads living mostly social housing causing most of trouble unfortunately till they solve that it's carry on as normal

And you still have some quarters of Irish politics campaigning for more social housing estates to be built

limnam

Míshásta wrote: »

I'm not from Dublin, but doesn't Tallaght cover a huge area and have a large population?.

I can't see how they all can be held responsible for the activities of a hoodlum element taking advantage of an unprecedented weather event.

70k or so.

Pretty big.

The scum element is quiet small actually.

splinter65

punisher5112 wrote: »

Tallaght... Great bunch of lads.


Seriously parents need to become a hell of a lot more responsible and actually bring their kids up.


More Garda and zero tolerance approach.

Too many wannabe gangs and anti social behaviour.

Better laws and fix the legal system including prison's.

Go over to any of the shock jock Dublin radio stations Facebook pages and say that.
You’ll soon get your answer.
“You can’t watch them 24/7” is the general theme.
Then there’s the “no facilities” theme. When it’s pointed out that there are plenty of facilities you will be told that all these activities cost too much.
If you go to that persons Facebook page you will see them enjoying themselves at a football match in Old Trafford or on holidays in Spain with the girls.
The Gardai/government/foreigners/school/bankers/Denis OBrien are to blame.

iamwhoiam

We are standing here thank you . Our neighbours have been out shovelling snow and helping the eldery and trying to help nurses who live here to the Hospital . The vast majority in Tallaght have been doing what the rest of the country is doing and helping each other out . Three people knocked on my door yesterday to see what we needed .

spurious

Effects wrote: »

That's not going to happen. The parents of these kids were probably just like them at that age and haven't changed that much.

Let government computers talk to each other.
Child not attending school - no child benefit
Child not attending Hospital appointment - no child benefit
Child not being parented in any way resembling normality - no child benefit.
Interactions with the guards - investigation leading to loss of child benefit.
Hit them where it hurts, stop 'their' money.

The Joan Burton saga has a lot to answer for. It showed that elected representatives (Murphy, Mahon and Murphy) thought it ok to behave like thugs and get away with it. It showed young people hailed as heroes for abusing those in authority. “No way. We won’t pay” my ar**. Scarce funds have to be taken from other services to pay for their behavior.

limnam

splinter65 wrote: »

Go over to any of the shock jock Dublin radio stations Facebook pages and say that.
You’ll soon get your answer.
“You can’t watch them 24/7” is the general theme.
Then there’s the “no facilities” theme. When it’s pointed out that there are plenty of facilities you will be told that all these activities cost too much.
If you go to that persons Facebook page you will see them enjoying themselves at a football match in Old Trafford or on holidays in Spain with the girls.
The Gardai/government/foreigners/school/bankers/Denis OBrien are to blame.

If only the mother of the 47yr old who was arrested was keeping an eye on him...

cajonlardo

limnam wrote: »

Guards been scumbags.

That's exactly what will fix it.

100 per cent fixed it that day. What would you have done? There was no internet back then for your self righteous and weak kneed posts

Gatling

[Deleted User] wrote: »

And you still have some quarters of Irish politics campaigning for more social housing estates to be built

SF controlled county councils are demanding 30% minimum social housing in new developments over the usual 10%

limnam

spurious wrote: »

Let government computers talk to each other.
Child not attending school - no child benefit
Child not attending Hospital appointment - no child benefit
Child not being parented in any way resembling normality - no child benefit.
Interactions with the guards - investigation leading to loss of child benefit.
Hit them where it hurts, stop 'their' money.

Your view like most is too simplistic.

Forcing a child into school and removing their "safety" net does nothing but generate more crime.

Oh how will the ever manage to generate 38e a week with crime.

Loueln

Consecutive jail sentences, none of this concurrent nonsense. Allow prison governers no leeway in releasing before sentences up. Still allow time off for good behaviour though to motivate rehabilitation but leave this to a judge or probation service

iamwhoiam

Loueln wrote: »

Consecutive jail sentences, none of this concurrent nonsense. Allow prison governers no leeway in releasing before sentences up. Still allow time off for good behaviour though to motivate rehabilitation but leave this to a judge or probation service

We need to build the prisons first to hold them all . Thats a huge stumbling block to this problem

tayto lover

If anyone in court is found "not guilty" then pay Free Legal Aid.
If they're found "guilty" then take it from their dole/ wages.

People only understand when it costs them.

limnam

tayto lover wrote: »

If anyone in court is found "not guilty" then pay Free Legal Aid.
If they're found "guilty" then take it from their dole/ wages.

People only understand when it costs them.

So they turn to more crime to make money...

Sleeper12

But it was only a peaceful protest

tayto lover

limnam wrote: »

So they turn to more crime to make money...

No. They jail them for further crimes.Make it tough too.
If everyone turned to crime when fined there would be anarchy.

limnam

Sleeper12 wrote: »

But it was only a peaceful protest

What has this got to do with water protests ?

Hitman3000

Deleted User wrote:

The Joan Burton saga has a lot to answer for. It showed that elected representatives (Murphy, Mahon and Murphy) thought it ok to behave like thugs and get away with it. It showed young people hailed as heroes for abusing those in authority. “No way. We won’t pay†my ar**. Scarce funds have to be taken from other services to pay for their behavior.

So you missed the whole court case where they were found not guilty, what did they get away with?