Contractors not getting paid

Mtx

How common is this? With such a terrible 2017 finances were stretched with everyone. People often pay for last year's work but I can see this getting worse with subs getting cut all the time. Has anyone had bad experiences paying contractors or contractors receiving payments?

Waffletraktor

Is there a difference in theft and 'not paying' ?

Bog Man 1

Were not milk and cattle prices fairly high during 2017 . In tillage the single farm payment should cover the contractor unless you are living beyond your means .The fellows that I hear of not paying their bills have Celtic Tiger legacy issues or are wont pay types .

davidk1394

Pricesfor dairy and beef were good in 2017. I got paid for nearly all my work. Few small jobs outstanding but all my bills were paid for before I left

davidk1394

Pricesfor dairy and beef were good in 2017. I got paid for nearly all my work. Few small jobs outstanding but all my bills were paid for before I left

Snowfire

Waffletraktor wrote: »

Is there a difference in theft and 'not paying' ?

It’s not what ya owe that makes you poor, it’s what ya pay...

patsy_mccabe

I've trouble paying my contractor. I've to hound him to do up the bill. Still haven't paid him for last year, even though i have asked him twice for the invoice.

kk.man

patsy_mccabe wrote: »

I've trouble paying my contractor. I've to hound him to do up the bill. Still haven't paid him for last year, even though i have asked him twice for the invoice.

I had same issue as you a few years back and when I enquired further I wasn't the only one!
Turns out yet man got big money for housing development and spaned receipts out over a number of years obviously to avoid tax.
I gave up asking (now it wasn't a big amount) and about 3 years later he and were in a local shop he followed me out looking for the money. I paid him but the way he appoached me was kinda anger in his voice. Never got him again.

Donegalforever

patsy_mccabe wrote: »

I've trouble paying my contractor. I've to hound him to do up the bill. Still haven't paid him for last year, even though i have asked him twice for the invoice.

I had the same problem with a Plant Hire Contractor a number of times in the past. I kept contacting him about his bill and he kept saying phone me at the weekend, I will have it made up. This went on and on. Eventually he got fed up with me hounding him and would produce his bill.

Say my name

patsy_mccabe wrote: »

I've trouble paying my contractor. I've to hound him to do up the bill. Still haven't paid him for last year, even though i have asked him twice for the invoice.

Send a solicitors letter.

Or call to his house demanding that he takes payment.

BigSteaks

Get payed going out the gate here. Doesnt matter what cattle prices are like, thats not their problem. Difficult game to be in even at the best of times.

Who2

I throw mine a couple of Cheques throughout the year and we sit down every so often and work out where we’re at. It’s easier this way with him than chasing and chasing looking for the invoice. The last time I called to the house and told him if he didn’t do it there and then he wasn’t getting paid. It’s torture if a lad lands at the wrong time to collect a big lump.

kk.man

Who2 wrote: »

I throw mine a couple of Cheques throughout the year and we sit down every so often and work out where we’re at. It’s easier this way with him than chasing and chasing looking for the invoice. The last time I called to the house and told him if he didn’t do it there and then he wasn’t getting paid. It’s torture if a lad lands at the wrong time to collect a big lump.

Plus it doesn't help you tax situation if you paying 18 months late.

Icelandicseige

Who2 wrote: »

I throw mine a couple of Cheques throughout the year and we sit down every so often and work out where we’re at. It’s easier this way with him than chasing and chasing looking for the invoice. The last time I called to the house and told him if he didn’t do it there and then he wasn’t getting paid. It’s torture if a lad lands at the wrong time to collect a big lump.

Sounds like a good relationship everyone happy. Does he give you just one invoice at end of year then or one every time you pay?

cute geoge

Farmers are better off if they pay up when the job is done i find .The contractors seem to sock it on when there is a couple of different jobs paid together !!

Gawddawggonnit

Sooooo, contractors don’t want to get paid....

That turns this thread on its head!

Reggie.

Gawddawggonnit wrote: »

Sooooo, contractors don’t want to get paid....

That turns this thread on its head!

Def not the case here but some lads like to spread the payments throughout the year so that they have money still coming in at wintertime when they are quiet.

Gawddawggonnit

Reggie. wrote: »

Def not the case here but some lads like to spread the payments throughout the year so that they have money still coming in at wintertime when they are quiet.

I’ve the contractor t-shirt Reggie. My experience was that you’re second last on the list to get paid. The straw supplier was last...I’d the misfortune of being both.
The most debilitating job I’ve ever done was going around to plicks collecting money. Never again.

I do a small bit here. More like getting fellas out of a bind really, but no bother getting paid. Paid within 30days of posting the invoice...as it should be.

freedominacup

Gawddawggonnit wrote: »

Sooooo, contractors don’t want to get paid....

That turns this thread on its head!

All of my contractors bills were cleared by year end last year bar one. We got some re seeding direct drilled late in the summer. Still haven't received a bill. Contractors do work here year round.

farisfat

I have the T-shirt here to for my sins .....it was a form of mental torture.
Theirs a you lad doing all my work now a great worker.
I'm trying to convince him to drop the slow payers and mind his good customers.
They don't deserve to get work done.

Reggie.

farisfat wrote: »

I have the T-shirt here to for my sins .....it was a form of mental torture.
Theirs a you lad doing all my work now a great worker.
I'm trying to convince him to drop the slow payers and mind his good customers.
They don't deserve to get work done.

I'm lucky in that regard that I never have to chase payments. If I ever do have to then I certainly wont return to that farmer

tanko

Got a lad with a track machine to clean drains last summer for two days, rang him several times asking him how much i owed, kept saying he’d let me know. He eventually called around at xmas.

Got another contractor to spread slurry wirh pipes in september, tried to pay him going out the gate, he wouldnt take it, rang him three times saying i’d call over with a cheque, he was always too busy to do this. He called around last week.

Any contractor i know doesnt seem to be stuck for money, this thing of lads not paying is exaggerated i reckon.

Grueller

I always try to pay the contractor at the gate. Self propelled guy won't take it as he has no invoice book with him. I always call to him within a week. He tells me that myself and three or four others do this. 6 or 7 more at next milk cheque. A few more at harvest time and the majority at SFP time. As Reggie says, he loves it this way as it gives cash flow.
The guy that does the rest of the bits will not take any payment from me until December 15th each year. He is also a dairy farmer and dries off cows around then. The contracting collection is his dry period nest egg. Mind you last year when milk price was good he wouldn't take it until the first week of January.