I don't mean to be transphobic but..

Tenigate

I don't mean to be trans-race-phobic, but I don't believe Ja Du is really Filipina, despite her pink Tuc tuc and love of Filipino food and music.
https://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/ja-du-filipina-transracial_us_5a0b04b2e4b00a6eece45800

I'm not trans-age-phobic, but I don't believe Stefonknee Wolscht is really 6-years old.
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/stefonknee-wolschtt-transgender-father-leaves-family-in-toronto-to-start-new-life-as-a-six-year-old-a6769051.html

And.. not to be trans-species-phobic, but I don't think chopping off your ears, nose, and slicing your tongue makes you a dragon.
https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/weird-news/transgender-woman-spends-more-40k-12100328

Can anyone tell me what is so wrong with these 3 women that they think they are a different race, different age, and different (mythical) species? Is there a mental illness at play, which would suggest a responsibility of the state to provide psychiatric care rather than say pediatric or veterinary care?

Hector Bellend

Have a ****

Hitman3000

Hector Bellend wrote:

Have a ****

The real answer to all life's problems big and small.

jester77

Read some real news

Barry Badrinath

Thats just 3 d1ckheads looking for attention.

S'all

OldMrBrennan83

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Hector Bellend

Hitman3000 wrote: »

The real answer to all life's problems big and small.

Indeed.

Hande hoche!

Wonder how Rachel Dolezal is keeping these days?

Princess Consuela Bananahammock

Tenigate wrote: »

I don't mean to be trans-race-phobic, but I don't believe Ja Du is really Filipina, despite her pink Tuc tuc and love of Filipino food and music.
https://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/ja-du-filipina-transracial_us_5a0b04b2e4b00a6eece45800

I'm not trans-age-phobic, but I don't believe Stefonknee Wolscht is really 6-years old.
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/stefonknee-wolschtt-transgender-father-leaves-family-in-toronto-to-start-new-life-as-a-six-year-old-a6769051.html

And.. not to be trans-species-phobic, but I don't think chopping off your ears, nose, and slicing your tongue makes you a dragon.
https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/weird-news/transgender-woman-spends-more-40k-12100328

Can anyone tell me what is so wrong with these 3 women that they think they are a different gender, different age, and different (mythical) species? Is there a mental illness at play, which would suggest a responsibility of the state to provide psychiatric care rather than say pediatric or veterinary care?

The first two are a matter of legality, the last one is personal freedom. As to "wrong" - well, who says there's anything wrong? Not conforming to the norm does not make you "wrong".

Personally, I'm not in a position to tell someone I've never met that I'm in a better position to tell them who they are or are not.

Casualsingby

Snowflake

Tenigate

Hande hoche! wrote: »

Wonder how Rachel Dolezal is keeping these days?

She changed her name to Nkechi Amare Diallo . Apparently because the Dolezal brand was damaged and prevented her from getting work. I think Jane Smith would suit her better than Nkechi Amare Diallo but I'm a white male so what would i know?

Ralf and Florian

If the second umm, person goes and has sex with an adult does that make it paedo?

Princess Consuela Bananahammock

Ralf and Florian wrote: »

If the second umm, person goes and has sex with an adult does that make it paedo?

There was a law brought in that any porn featuring someone who was of legal age but looked under are could be classified a child porn (although I think it might have been Australia? Not sure....)

Question is: would a pedophile be sexually aroused?

King George VI

jester77 wrote: »

Read some real news

Yeah you can start here http://www.thejournal.ie/







































:pac:

darkdubh

Princess Consuela Bananahammock wrote: »

There was a law brought in that any porn featuring someone who was of legal age but looked under are could be classified a child porn (although I think it might have been Australia? Not sure....)

Question is: would a pedophile be sexually aroused?

Think we can safely rule that out

jaxxx

Patww79 wrote: »

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The world ain't the problem, we (as a species) are. Solution?

Invent a time machine. Go back in time to when Neanderthals went extinct, then ensure we followed them! Problem solved, world is at peace again, hundreds of thousands of miles of forests restored, nature is at a stable equilibrium again.

Stonedpilot

Tenigate wrote: »

I don't mean to be trans-race-phobic, but I don't believe Ja Du is really Filipina, despite her pink Tuc tuc and love of Filipino food and music.
https://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/ja-du-filipina-transracial_us_5a0b04b2e4b00a6eece45800

I'm not trans-age-phobic, but I don't believe Stefonknee Wolscht is really 6-years old.
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/stefonknee-wolschtt-transgender-father-leaves-family-in-toronto-to-start-new-life-as-a-six-year-old-a6769051.html

And.. not to be trans-species-phobic, but I don't think chopping off your ears, nose, and slicing your tongue makes you a dragon.
https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/weird-news/transgender-woman-spends-more-40k-12100328

Can anyone tell me what is so wrong with these 3 women that they think they are a different gender, different age, and different (mythical) species? Is there a mental illness at play, which would suggest a responsibility of the state to provide psychiatric care rather than say pediatric or veterinary care?

Transphobic?. See how you fall into the politically correct madness already by questioning the lunacy of these three people you are somehow "phobic" of them. Or biased against them.

Junkyard Tom

WILL THE OFF LICENCES BE OPEN TOMORROW!?

Buford T Justice

Well we live in a world where we can't say no to these crackpots lest the sjw's get a hold of it and get offended and brand you a nazi sympathizer or homophobe or some other sort of hyperbolic nonsense.

Buford T Justice

Tenigate wrote: »

And.. not to be trans-species-phobic, but I don't think chopping off your ears, nose, and slicing your tongue makes you a dragon.
https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/weird-news/transgender-woman-spends-more-40k-12100328

Wiping her arse after a dump must be a bitch

uck51js9zml2yt

We are in an age where you can identify as anything you want and its those who dare say No that are vilified.

My hamster identified as a goldfish today..who am I to says it's not.....I can't tell the sex of my female hamster turned goldfish so will just call it "it"

Edit I am not hamster phobic!

Buford T Justice

jaxxx

Ricardo Embarrassed Redcoat wrote: »

We are in an age where you can identify as anything you want and its those who dare say No that are vilified.

My hamster identified as a goldfish today..who am I to says it's not.....I can't tell the sex of my female hamster turned goldfish so will just call it "it"

You know what I identify as? Human, beyond that what the actual f*ck does it matter...

Actually having said that, considering the way things are in the world these days, I'm actually struggling to say that I am human cos I cannot understand all the irrational and illogical goings on in the world today...

Buford T Justice

jaxxx wrote: »

You know what I identify as? Human, beyond that what the actual f*ck does it matter...

Actually having said that, considering the way things are in the world these days, I'm actually struggling to say that I am human cos I cannot understand all the irrational and illogical goings on in the world today...

The world is full of moron's, its just that now we're all expected to treat each opinion that they have as valuable and important

mynamejeff

Princess Consuela Bananahammock wrote: »

The first two are a matter of legality, the last one is personal freedom. As to "wrong" - well, who says there's anything wrong? Not conforming to the norm does not make you "wrong".

Personally, I'm not in a position to tell someone I've never met that I'm in a better position to tell them who they are or are not.

no thinking your a dragon is wrong unless you are in fact a dragon

thinking your a 6 year old girl is wrong ,( unless you are )

these are just people who werent told to cop the fcuk on early enough

Stonedpilot

jaxxx wrote: »

You know what I identify as? Human, beyond that what the actual f*ck does it matter...

Actually having said that, considering the way things are in the world these days, I'm actually struggling to say that I am human cos I cannot understand all the irrational and illogical goings on in the world today...

Well one of these folk dont identify themselves as human, dragon tis.

May I ask what toilet you use when in a pub/restaurant or cafe?.

I presume you pick one.

Havent seen "human" on jacks once.

If it matters for a trivial thing like a pizz, it matters for greater things.

Buford T Justice

Stonedpilot wrote: »

Well one of these folk dont identify themselves as human, dragon tis.

May I ask what toilet you use when in a pub/restaurant or cafe?.

I presume you pick one.

Havent seen "human" on jacks once.

If it matters for a trivial thing like a pizz, it matters for greater things.

Yet!

Wait and see, instead of having gender neutral bathrooms we'll soon be having species neutral bathrooms, you know - for those that don't identify as human and demand recognition

Yer Da sells Avon

Why not just be kind? It costs nothing. I can't imagine what it must be like for a transgender person to read some of the stuff on After Hours.

Stonedpilot

Hapax Legomenon wrote: »

Why not just be kind? It costs nothing. I can't imagine what it must be like for a transgender person to read some of the stuff on After Hours.

Stuff like what exactly ?.

super_furry

Tenigate wrote: »

I don't mean to be trans-race-phobic, but I don't believe Ja Du is really Filipina, despite her pink Tuc tuc and love of Filipino food and music.
https://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/ja-du-filipina-transracial_us_5a0b04b2e4b00a6eece45800

I'm not trans-age-phobic, but I don't believe Stefonknee Wolscht is really 6-years old.
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/stefonknee-wolschtt-transgender-father-leaves-family-in-toronto-to-start-new-life-as-a-six-year-old-a6769051.html

And.. not to be trans-species-phobic, but I don't think chopping off your ears, nose, and slicing your tongue makes you a dragon.
https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/weird-news/transgender-woman-spends-more-40k-12100328

Can anyone tell me what is so wrong with these 3 women that they think they are a different gender, different age, and different (mythical) species? Is there a mental illness at play, which would suggest a responsibility of the state to provide psychiatric care rather than say pediatric or veterinary care?

Why do you care?

Yer Da sells Avon

Stonedpilot wrote: »

Stuff like what exactly ?.

Stuff like this thread.

Cold Night wrote: »

Feelings don't trump free speech.

Free speech shouldn't trump kindness and decency.

Franz Von Peppercorn

Hapax Legomenon wrote: »

Stuff like this thread.



Free speech shouldn't trump kindness and decency.

Its not very free then.

Yer Da sells Avon

Cold Night wrote: »

My right to free expression is far more important the feelings of transgender people. Those same people are free to say what they want back to me, or do I have the right not to be offended?

That's kind of sad. Have you ever experienced empathy, or is it something that you generally place no value in?

Omackeral

Hapax Legomenon wrote: »

Why not just be kind? It costs nothing. I can't imagine what it must be like for a transgender person to read some of the stuff on After Hours.

That’s a fair enough mantra but that grown ass Stefonknee thinking they are a 6 year old little girl is a little bit of a stretch no?Are we to allow that person to integrate with other six year olds as if they’re one of them, under the guise of showing kindness?

Tenigate

@Hapax Legomenon

Just as the lgbt forum says "this is a safe space" (i.e you are not welcome to share opinions that may upset members), i think the links to articles i posted in my op draw a few uncomfortable parallels to gender dysphoria.

Look at the thread title. It's practically a trigger warning! I'm not encouraging trans-bashing, but it's hard not to draw parallels.

One woman says "i feel like a dragon". How does she know? She's never been a dragon. So, an academic might say "well, she identifies as a dragon. She says she always knew she was different, even as a little girl, and only after watching the 2nd hobbit film did she realise she was actually always a dragon. To say otherwise is hateful. Oh and we've to update the definition from "a mythical beast" to something more inclusive and scientific. Even if she didn't transition (which isn't just cosmetic) she'd still ve a dragon. And also, every citizen must provide gold to the dragon otherwise she'll set our village on fire. And please use her correct pronouns. They're special dragon pronouns."

I'm going to bed now.

Omackeral

super_furry wrote: »

Why do you care?

This could be the first response to literally any thread on boards. They wrote the OP because presumably they care enough to have written it. They might want to start a discussion on it. That’s the whole point of forums, or at least it should be.

Tenigate

Omackeral wrote: »

This could be the first response to literally any thread on boards. They wrote the OP because presumably they care enough to have written it. They might want to start a discussion on it. That’s the whole point of forums, or at least it should be.

I'm currently in the middle of replying "why do you care" on all 22000 of super_furry's posts.

Yer Da sells Avon

Cold Night wrote: »

Why are you trying to restrict my right to free speech with your fake 'empathy'? Why about my right to empathy? To not be offended?

Me, me, me, me, me!

I find it interesting that you want to be empathised with, but find the idea with empathising with others so abhorrent.

Omackeral

By the by, I started a thread on the dragon person before and it was locked up fairly quickly so this could probably go the same way.

https://touch.boards.ie/thread/2057582085/1

_Kaiser_

Have to agree with Buford and others on this - as a society, in our rush to be "accepting" (and FAR more importantly, be seen by anonymous social media "friends" to be so!) we've crossed the line from understanding and tolerance/support for genuine transgender/gay etc people, to enabling and encouraging every bizarre fetish or notion someone has as legitimate and to be valued.

People like the 3 cases in the OP's links need professional help and guidance, not indulgence!

I find though that the people who advocate for and excuse this sort of behaviour spend far too much time on Twitter, Facebook and the likes generally. What is it about the Irish psyche that we have this "need" to be approved of and validated by others, and that we simultaneously soak up the worst of these other cultures like a sponge?

Omackeral

Being a dragon in this weather would be fairly handy though, no need to shovel the snow, just fire breath the driveway clear. Happy days. Also, if people don’t accept your dragon-ness, simply eat them.

Yer Da sells Avon

Cold Night wrote: »

You still haven't explained why free speech should be restricted to protect feelings. If I find your opinions offensive, should I ask you to censor yourself?

If I'm saying something that's causing you genuine upset, and you ask me to stop, then yes, I'll stop - I'll censor myself - because I don't think my right to free speech is worth upsetting you for. Even if I firmly believe that my opinion is the correct one - life's not all about being right. Feelings matter too (even other people's!)

LETHAL LADY

Sure didn't yer man Fr. Brendan Smyth identify as disciple of God.

Duckworth_Luas

Hapax Legomenon wrote: »

Why not just be kind? It costs nothing. I can't imagine what it must be like for a transgender person to read some of the stuff on After Hours.

I doubt that any of the three mentioned in the OP will be reading anything on here.

For a start the 6 year old girl would have a very basic reading level, would be unable to operate an electronic device and prefers to spend time playing with Barbies.

Dragons can't read. They hoard gold, breath fire and fight with medieval knights.

Lastly, the Filipina would only know Tagalog and have a very basic grasp of English.

Omackeral

Hapax Legomenon wrote: »

If I'm saying something that's causing you genuine upset, and you ask me to stop, then yes, I'll stop - I'll censor myself - because I don't think my right to free speech is worth upsetting you for. Even if I firmly believe that my opinion is the correct one - life's not all about being right. Feelings matter too (even other people's!)

So if someone was asking you to stop saying interracial marriage is fine and normal because it personally upsets or offends them, you’d stop?

Omackeral

Duckworth_Luas wrote: »

Dragons can't read. They hoard gold, breath fire and fight with medieval knights.

Did you just assume her era?

Yer Da sells Avon

Omackeral wrote: »

So if someone was asking you to stop saying interracial marriage is fine and normal because it personally upsets or offends them, you’d stop?

That's an extreme, silly and wholly unrealistic example. But ignoring that, what's the alternative to stopping? Keep going, making them more and more upset because I believe I'm right? Mock them, perhaps, for being so upset about it? Not sure either of those things would make me feel too good about myself afterwards, tbh.

Damn right, I'd stop, and I'd make a mental note never to raise the topic in their presence again.

Tenigate

Hapax Legomenon wrote: »

If I'm saying something that's causing you genuine upset, and you ask me to stop, then yes, I'll stop - I'll censor myself - because I don't think my right to free speech is worth upsetting you for.

So.... In a discussion about vaccines, an anti-vaxxer is upset that you want to give autism-causing vaccines to children, and are trying to force your science on him? So you censor yourself.

Or your white-power work colleague is disgusted you're comparing him disfavourably to Jews and Africans? You might avoid the guy, but will you censor your opinions for fear of upsetting his belief?

How about a neighbour who genuinely finds your car number plate offensive. Will you change your route to avoid passing his house?

Where does the self-censorship end?

Omackeral

Hapax Legomenon wrote: »

That's an extreme, silly and wholly unrealistic example,

Sadly it’s not. Plenty of racists still out there, some overtly so.

Yer Da sells Avon

Tenigate wrote: »

Where does the self-censorship end?

Where does exercising your right to free speech end? I don't really believe in God, for example. Should I have the right to stand up at mass on a Sunday and tell the priest I think he's talking nonsense? Arguably, I should have that right, but should I exercise it?

Annasopra

Tenigate wrote: »

I'm not encouraging trans-bashing.

Just keyboard transphobic hate