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CLASSIC HITS OR 4FM

  • 25-02-2018 9:29pm
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    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 549 ✭✭✭


    Classic hits 4fm seem to be dropping 4fm more ofton from their name. Is this poor branding. Is it one or the other.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,967 ✭✭✭JDxtra


    For me, Classic Hits will always be remembered as the tagline of 98FM.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,691 ✭✭✭ford fiesta


    4FM has to be the worst name given to a professional radio station ever in Ireland...feck it, even the names of the smaller pirates over the last 50 years in Ireland were better!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 642 ✭✭✭real rocker


    4FM has to be the worst name given to a professional radio station ever in Ireland...feck it, even the names of the smaller pirates over the last 50 years in Ireland were better!

    4FM was chosen because the station was broadcasting to four cities / Dublin / Cork / Limerick & Galway. They did consider changing the name during one of the makeovers I believe.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 642 ✭✭✭real rocker


    4FM has to be the worst name given to a professional radio station ever in Ireland...feck it, even the names of the smaller pirates over the last 50 years in Ireland were better!

    4FM was chosen because the station was broadcasting to four cities / Dublin / Cork / Limerick & Galway. They did consider changing the name during one of the makeovers I believe.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 549 ✭✭✭vince


    The face book page heading is now just classic hits. Is it winding down or somthing i dont get niel boylans night time hours being cut. Sounds awful all those repeats on random nights. Perhaps he got a wage cut for less hours.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 178 ✭✭KReid


    Noticed this too over the last week, probably just a bit of in house re branding, Classic Hits is better than 4FM I guess, as outlined above the name was for the four cities its in but it's a bit confusing, Classic Hits is more in line with the station.

    Also noticed being back in Dublin the last week that 98FM are the now using the tagline "the sound of the city" on air, not sure if it's on other branding yet, they had this before I think?
    I'm guessing it's a rebranding of such.


  • Moderators, Entertainment Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 14,523 Mod ✭✭✭✭marno21


    This evening at 7pm the news, sport and weather liners were all Classic Hits. The liner for the Club Classics show was then Classic Hits 4FM.

    The RDS is still 4FM. Not sure what they can do there as the RDS is limited to eight characters.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 549 ✭✭✭vince


    Wish theyed make thier minds up its sloppy.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,670 ✭✭✭MikeyTaylor


    marno21 wrote: »
    This evening at 7pm the news, sport and weather liners were all Classic Hits. The liner for the Club Classics show was then Classic Hits 4FM.

    The RDS is still 4FM. Not sure what they can do there as the RDS is limited to eight characters.

    Who presents Club Classics?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,646 ✭✭✭California Dreamer


    Who presents Club Classics?

    Rob O'Jock


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,967 ✭✭✭JDxtra


    The branding is all over the place. It's either 4FM or it isn't - pick one or the other! If they were to change their RDS, best they could probably do is "CLASSHTS".

    And then separately we have "The Sound Of The City" as the tag for 98FM and "The Sound Of The Nation" for 2FM! Oh dear. Who had it first?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,691 ✭✭✭ford fiesta


    JDxtra wrote: »
    The branding is all over the place. It's either 4FM or it isn't - pick one or the other! If they were to change their RDS, best they could probably do is "CLASSHTS".

    How about just 'CLASSICS' ?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,769 ✭✭✭Infoanon


    JDxtra wrote: »
    The branding is all over the place. It's either 4FM or it isn't - pick one or the other! If they were to change their RDS, best they could probably do is "CLASSHTS".

    And then separately we have "The Sound Of The City" as the tag for 98FM and "The Sound Of The Nation" for 2FM! Oh dear. Who had it first?

    4FM also use the tagline 'Real Radio'............


  • Moderators, Entertainment Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 14,523 Mod ✭✭✭✭marno21


    Infoanon wrote: »
    4FM also use the tagline 'Real Radio'............
    Is that not just for the Niall Boylan show?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,769 ✭✭✭Infoanon


    marno21 wrote: »
    Is that not just for the Niall Boylan show?
    Its been used in other promos and on air - its use has reduced in recent times but there was a time ,last year iirc. when the 'real radio' tagline was been pushed.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,691 ✭✭✭ford fiesta


    Damien Farrelly taking over Gareth's slot and Nicki Hayes taking over Damien's slot.

    Enda Murphy no longer on weekends it seems


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,691 ✭✭✭ford fiesta


    Eoin Larkin announced before 2pm that Nikki Hayes was coming up after the 2pm news.

    But Eoin is still on after 2pm !!

    Are Saturdays now all voicetracked on 4FM?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,359 ✭✭✭Declan A Walsh


    Damien Farrelly taking over Gareth's slot and Nicki Hayes taking over Damien's slot.

    Enda Murphy no longer on weekends it seems

    Interestingly, all four of those names mentioned there are ex-2FM presenters!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,670 ✭✭✭MikeyTaylor


    Interestingly, all four of those names mentioned there are ex-2FM presenters!

    Enda Murphy was on 2FM? When and what show/slot?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,359 ✭✭✭Declan A Walsh


    Enda Murphy was on 2FM? When and what show/slot?

    He used to be on Sunday afternoons on 2FM in the '00s.


    You have to bear in mind that over the years he has turned up nearly everywhere, Rock104/FM104, East Coast Radio, 98FM, 2FM, 949 The Rock and the three related stations: Radio Nova, 4FM and Sunshine 106.8.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,670 ✭✭✭MikeyTaylor


    He used to be on Sunday afternoons on 2FM in the '00s.


    You have to bear in mind that over the years he has turned up nearly everywhere, Rock104/FM104, East Coast Radio, 98FM, 2FM, 949 The Rock and the three related stations: Radio Nova, 4FM and Sunshine 106.8.

    I think he's also the voice of the in-store radio station at The Square in Tallaght.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 9 John from Carlow


    Is it true that the bai have given this joke station an automatic licence renewal?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,470 ✭✭✭JoeA3


    Is it true that the bai have given this joke station an automatic licence renewal?

    I’m curious what makes this a “joke” of station in your view, compared to the likes of Today FM?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,471 ✭✭✭EdgeCase


    The RDS message is localised in Cork too

    "Cork's Classic Hits" or something similar.


  • Moderators, Entertainment Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 14,523 Mod ✭✭✭✭marno21


    EdgeCase wrote: »
    The RDS message is localised in Cork too

    "Cork's Classic Hits" or something similar.
    Localised RDS in Limerick, Galway and Dublin too. 104.6 Maghera isn't localised as it covers Clare, Limerick and Galway.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,419 ✭✭✭Trebor176


    Classic Hits went out the window when they changed to the current format. Classic describes many songs that were played in the early days. The same can't really be said currently. So yes, it's wise to leave it at 4fm.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 9 John from Carlow


    JoeA3 wrote: »
    I’m curious what makes this a “joke” of station in your view, compared to the likes of Today FM?

    The Niall boylan show and a bunch of 00s 2fm djs who flopped sounds like a joke to me


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,967 ✭✭✭JDxtra


    In Dublin, the RDS name reads "4FM_____" - yes, they have padded it out with spaces so it will never appear centred. The RDS radio text displays the name of the current song playing. No matter which way they chop it up, "Classic Hits" can't be used as the main RDS name (programme service) as it is too long.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,547 ✭✭✭KildareP


    I think he's also the voice of the in-store radio station at The Square in Tallaght.

    He's more than that :)
    He's the M.D. of Airserv who do the in-store music in probably most of the shopping centres around the country at this stage, it seems to be all 4FM and Nova voices on the various ads and liners on the stations.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,547 ✭✭✭KildareP


    Something was having a meltdown for the first twenty minutes after 8.

    It sounds like two or three shows being played out on air at the same time.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 470 ✭✭ITV2


    4fm is now CLS HITS on their RDS in Dublin area.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,967 ✭✭✭JDxtra


    ITV2 wrote: »
    4fm is now CLS HITS on their RDS in Dublin area.

    Well, at least they can't force it to the left like they did with 4FM (instead of centering like every other station).


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,691 ✭✭✭ford fiesta


    They should have just settled on CLASSIC, then again it could be confused with Classic FM (UK) in border areas if it reached there..


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,967 ✭✭✭JDxtra


    It was always going to look silly no matter what way they did it. RDS name has always been limited to 8 characters, and that isn't going to change any time soon.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 178 ✭✭KReid


    Don't some of the "fancier" cars have new RDS systems? I usually have to rent one when i'm in the country but some of them have a digital display and give the station tagline and possibly the song that is playing. Would they be able to display a full name on that?

    Something in my head says that the RDS comes from the transmission site? So could say different things from different transmitters.. i'm sure some techy could explain that though.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,967 ✭✭✭JDxtra


    What you will see in cars is the RDS "program service" (PS) name. This is limited to 8 characters and this standard is not likely to change. The characters are static.

    In some countries it is acceptable to rotate this message e.g. it could display "CLASSIC" for a few seconds then switch to "HITS". But in Ireland, this is not permitted.

    In addition, some radios will display the RDS "radio text" (RT) message. This is much longer (64 characters I believe). This can be static or dynamic. For example, some stations will display a slogan and some will display the current playing song information.

    RDS does come from the transmission site, but the content can be controlled remotely. If an operator has more than one transmitter location the RDS program service name or radio text message could be different on them.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 470 ✭✭ITV2


    LYRIC%20DAB.jpg


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 470 ✭✭ITV2


    plenty of text on DAB.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,622 ✭✭✭✭coylemj


    ITV2 wrote: »
    plenty of text on DAB.

    And even the odd picture if your radio supports it. None at the moment that I can see.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,470 ✭✭✭JoeA3


    They've changed it to "CLS HITS" in Galway now too.

    Yes, a lot of new radios now have "Radio Text" (RT) as well as RDS. Not that RT is anything new. I had a mini-HiFi 20 years ago in my bedroom that had RT! 4FM / "Classic Hits" seem to localise the RT, so here it says "Galway's Classic Hits".

    Its a very confused and limp fisted effort at a name change.... they still have "4FM" in some jingles. Which is it?!


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  • Moderators, Entertainment Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 14,523 Mod ✭✭✭✭marno21


    All major relays in the south seem to be CLS HITS now

    104.2 in Limerick this evening is displaying the current song instead of "Limericks Classic Hits Station".


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,577 ✭✭✭✭MEGA BRO WOLF 5000


    It’s on my radio now as CLS HITS now which is annoying. It used be no1 when I would roll the button on my steering wheel up and I’d always hear something decent whether it be a classic tune or Niall Boylan. Now it’s some dance trance bollocks.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,577 ✭✭✭✭MEGA BRO WOLF 5000


    ITV2 wrote: »
    LYRIC%20DAB.jpg

    DAB is the biggest waste of money I’ve ever seen.

    €1000 optional in my car for fücking RTÉ stations.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,072 ✭✭✭CWF


    It’s on my radio now as CLS HITS now which is annoying. It used be no1 when I would roll the button on my steering wheel up and I’d always hear something decent whether it be a classic tune or Niall Boylan. Now it’s some dance trance bollocks.
    Niall Boylan isn't bollocks??


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,577 ✭✭✭✭MEGA BRO WOLF 5000


    CWF wrote: »
    Niall Boylan isn't bollocks??

    You don't have to agree with someone to be entertained.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,072 ✭✭✭CWF


    I disagree...... :D


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,455 ✭✭✭StreetLight


    I think the RDS should read "CL.HITS". The current CLS HITS just looks like the letters CLS are supposed to stand for something.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,293 ✭✭✭Fuzzy Clam


    I think the RDS should read "CL.HITS". The current CLS HITS just looks like the letters CLS are supposed to stand for something.

    Too much like CLITS :eek:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,455 ✭✭✭StreetLight


    Fuzzy Clam wrote: »
    Too much like CLITS :eek:

    :D


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,119 ✭✭✭Maz2016


    More like CL5HITS. Really don’t like it.


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