Rural Ireland Burglars Primetime

hurler32

Prime time tonight has programme on the Mayhem that is rural Ireland in recent years as travelling gangs rob man woman and child ...

Fine Gael obviously have been a major help to the travelling gang members closing nearly all rural Garda stations ...

Move to Dublin or be beaten to death as one woman puts it ...

Kintarō Hattori

hurler32 wrote: »

Prime time tonight has programme on the Mayhem that is rural Ireland in recent years as traveller gangs rob man woman and child ...

Fine Gael obviously have been a major help to the travellers closing nearly all rural Garda stations ...

Move to Dublin or be beaten to death as one woman puts it ...

What's your point?

Jim Bob Scratcher

Kintarō Hattori wrote: »

What's your point?

andekwarhola

Kintarō Hattori wrote: »

What's your point?

What's yours?

Wannabe modding aside, obviously.

Dr. Kenneth Noisewater

Who doesn't love being part of a rural vigilante mob? I bloody do.

Wouldn't get that in Dublin.

Are Am Eye

Rural Ireland? thats down the bleedin country isn't it?

MilesMorales1

Dr. Kenneth Noisewater wrote: »

Who doesn't love being part of a rural vigilante mob? I bloody do.

Wouldn't get that in Dublin.

We're all too busy lurching the streets in our drug addled states in Dublin loike ya mad yoke I'll dance on yer bleeding head.

whiskeyman

Aye, sure there's no crime up here in the big shmoke

Ursummupet

I thought OP was organising a Boards hit job.

Could do with the moola tbh

Your Face

Didn't see the program.
However it's easier to carry out robberies in rural areas now that the smaller Garda stations are closing and the larger ones are cutting back.
There was a series of robberies near to where my friends parents live. They robbed a number of houses and were long gone before the Gardai could come out.
People are afraid.

MilesMorales1

Your Face wrote: »

Didn't see the program.
However it's easier to carry out robberies in rural areas now that the smaller Garda stations are closing and the larger ones are cutting back.
There was a series of robberies near to where my friends parents live. They robbed a number of houses and were long gone before the Gardai could come out.
People are afraid.

Thats cos it hasn't been on yet. 9.35 on RTE 1.

Your Face

MilesMorales1 wrote: »

Thats cos it hasn't been on yet. 9.35 on RTE 1.

Gob****e

seamus

Rural burglaries been declining steadily for years while they've skyrocketed in urban areas.

That doesn't suit the "be afraid, be very afraid" narrative though.

Spanish Eyes

Another reason to de ruralise the country.

Garda stations are not the answer either. Mobile patrols are required and they can patrol from anywhere.

CCTV at the on/off ramps on the motorways would help too.

dxhound2005

Your Face wrote: »

Didn't see the program.
However it's easier to carry out robberies in rural areas now that the smaller Garda stations are closing and the larger ones are cutting back.
There was a series of robberies near to where my friends parents live. They robbed a number of houses and were long gone before the Gardai could come out.
People are afraid.

If the larger ones are cutting back, where did the Guards from the smaller ones go? They closed years ago.

Your Face

dxhound2005 wrote: »

If the larger ones are cutting back, where did the Guards from the smaller ones go? They closed years ago.

Why are you asking me? I'm not the Justice Minster.

hurler32

seamus wrote: »

Rural burglaries been declining steadily for years while they've skyrocketed in urban areas.

That doesn't suit the "be afraid, be very afraid" narrative though.

There not declining just nowhere for people to report them as it could be 40 miles to the nearest station .. and even in that instance such is low detection rate people have given up ...

Sad to see older and not so old people bolting themselves into their homes once mid afternoon comes .... not that Fine Gael give a toss about rural Ireland ..

seamus

hurler32 wrote: »

There not declining just nowhere for people to report them as it could be 40 miles to the nearest station .. and even in that instance such is low detection rate people have given up ...

Sad to see older and not so old people bolting themselves into their homes once mid afternoon comes .... not that Fine Gael give a toss about rural Ireland ..

If only it was possible to communicate with people over long distances without leaving your home, then people could report crimes.

Bolting themselves in after mid afternoon. Did you just get here from the 1940s?

Ridiculous Nonsense.

hurler32

hurler32 wrote: »

Prime time tonight has programme on the Mayhem that is rural Ireland in recent years as travelling gangs rob man woman and child ...

Fine Gael obviously have been a major help to the travelling gang members closing nearly all rural Garda stations ...

Move to Dublin or be beaten to death as one woman puts it ...

Yes........ there were no robberies in my home town when that wee station was open 9am to 12 monday to friday.

Atlantic Dawn

<backward td speak>Whoy don't they close the motorways at night?</backward td speak>

Andrew Beef

Forgive my ignorance; what do these burglars steal?

Riskymove

seamus wrote: »

Rural burglaries been declining steadily for years while they've skyrocketed in urban areas.

That doesn't suit the "be afraid, be very afraid" narrative though.

They are different MOs

Burglaries in urban areas are rarely aggravated they tend to be opportunistic

In rural areas these gangs are carrying out home invasion style events. They beat and torture residents particularly elderly ones. Such rural residents feel more vulnerable as a result

Atlantic Dawn

Andrew Beef wrote: »

Forgive my ignorance; what do these burglars steal?

Cash and jewellary mostly. The days of stealing a TV are long gone.

Atlantic Dawn

Why don't they have ANPR on the bloody motorways, they could track a car if they had a number plate instead of driving around looking for a needle in a haystack.

Atlantic Dawn

The letter T.

andekwarhola

Spanish Eyes wrote: »

Another reason to de ruralise the country.

Come again?

Andrew Beef

Atlantic Dawn wrote: »

Andrew Beef wrote: »

Forgive my ignorance; what do these burglars steal?

Cash and jewellary mostly. The days of stealing a TV are long gone.

We’d be reasonably well off, but don’t use cash at all and our jewellery tends to be more of sentimental value.

I just have this vision of some yahoo demanding to know where the money is and having to explain to him that it’s in an investment account!

He deserved a "last chance"


**** him and double **** him

yew_tree

Hopefully a few of these thugs are shot dead soon. If you break into someone’s homethe threat that you may be killed should be real.

Atlantic Dawn

Atlantic Dawn wrote: »

Why don't they have ANPR on the bloody motorways, they could track a car if they had a number plate instead of driving around looking for a needle in a haystack.

Dunno really, its handy to change plates

Atlantic Dawn

Topgear on Dave wrote: »

Dunno really, its handy to change plates

Yes but most on a chase wouldn't have time to.

Spanish Eyes

andekwarhola wrote: »

Come again?

I think you heard me the first time.

There is no way we can afford to have a Garda Station in every village anymore. But there are other technologies out there that would help. ANPR and CCTV on the on/off ramps of the motorways time stamped etc.

I am not heartless, being invaded in your own home is just so traumatic, but there are other ways to help this. Everyone and anyone can get a cctv installed and should, probably do. It will help.

I know if it happens to you or me it is devastating, but the days of the Garda stamping the passport forms in every village in Ireland is gone now. Did they do much else really if a patrol car was not available in the area anyway?

Birdie Num Num

Riskymove wrote: »

They are different MOs

Burglaries in urban areas are rarely aggravated they tend to be opportunistic

In rural areas these gangs are carrying out home invasion style events. They beat and torture residents particularly elderly ones. Such rural residents feel more vulnerable as a result

I agree isolated areas make people more vulnerable but burglaries and associated violence is not restricted or more prevelant to rural areas. Nor is the lack of Gardai. The reality is crime is much greater in urban areas and particularly parts of Dublin. What rural Ireland does have is a voice whereas crime has become an acceptance in many urban areas unfortunately.

Atlantic Dawn

Tagging would save them millions.

Omackeral

hurler32 wrote: »

the Mayhem that is rural Ireland in recent years as travelling gangs rob man woman and child ...

Does that mean gangs that travel around a lot or...

SEPT 23 1989

Shoot to kill

Noveight

Burglars with 20+ convictions in as many years don't fear the Gardaí or the courts and why would they? Free legal aid and soft suspended sentencing means Ireland is surely one of the best countries for the professional criminal.

If the only incentive for these scumbags to stop robbing houses is a greater likelihood of a shotgun out the letterbox then so be it. That will have to suffice until the government put another deterrent in place.

slavetothegrind

seamus wrote: »

Rural burglaries been declining steadily for years while they've skyrocketed in urban areas.

That doesn't suit the "be afraid, be very afraid" narrative though.

Based on what statistics?

Are we talking brutal assault for hours or a quick B&E?

In an urban area the nearest garda station is considerably closer than in a lot of rural areas, and response times quicker.

In a rural area even a muppet criminal could work out if i call in a crime here the one car on duty will be a half hour from where he is going to work.

dxhound2005

In the old days the muppet would have to work out which of the 3 hours out of 24 the lone Garda would be in the rural station.

Birdie Num Num

slavetothegrind wrote: »

Based on what statistics?

Are we talking brutal assault for hours or a quick B&E?

In an urban area the nearest garda station is considerably closer than in a lot of rural areas, and response times quicker.

In a rural area even a muppet criminal could work out if i call in a crime here the one car on duty will be a half hour from where he is going to work.

Not always a reality though. Half a hour would be as quick as it gets in some instances.

slavetothegrind

Birdie Num Num wrote: »

Not always a reality though. Half a hour would be as quick as it gets in some instances.

True Birdie but harder to predict when the distances are smaller, i know it's not great in cities also as resources are thin.

John_Rambo

SEPT 23 1989 wrote: »

Shoot to kill

That's all very Team America, well done. Unfortunately a lot of elderly people and parents with kids are not comfortable living with firearms and they're likely to have the firearm used against them or indeed targeted because they have a firearm!

However, I have no problem with an experienced arms handler (like a farmer/hunter) shooting a burglar with violent intent! I don't think anyone else would.

Criminal gangs have taken advantage of decades of bad planning along with local knowledge and intelligence and an excellent road system. The bad planning has acres and acres of what was once Irish countryside littered with houses sporadically build hither and tither with no real thinking on services.

One of those services is policing. An important one. What's slowly dawning on people is that it's impossible to police. The excellent road system (we all insisted on) has enabled free movement of gangs to get in, do their damage with lots of time and get out quickly.

With local scumbag intel on (lets say) a publican's/hair salon owner or similar cash reliant business owners house along with google maps and satellite imagery available at one click even the most stupid criminal can target a home, stake it out and do their devastating damage and have a few avenues of escape.

An unfortunate and devastating (for some people) affect of ridiculous, selfish, short term planning.

nice_guy80

most of these gangs are not using the motorways

they are criss-crossing the country at night using back roads and secondary roads

they scout the routes home in advance using sat nav and then used the saved routes.
avoiding towns where there are garda stations and also cctv cameras

donegaLroad

A few burglars drove from Cork to Donegal recently in a stolen car but were apprehended by the gardaí.

https://www.donegalnow.com/news/garda-detection-cork-burglars-donegal-warning-us/208237

dxhound2005

I hear very few reports of Bank and Post Office robberies in the news. Also tiger kidnaps and security van hold ups. They used to be more common, and obviously measure were taken to make them harder for the criminals.

Criminals will always move on to something else, and take the path of least resistance. Nowadays I would think that the big money is in online and phone scams.

donegaLroad

dxhound2005 wrote: »

I hear very few reports of Bank and Post Office robberies in the news. Also tiger kidnaps and security van hold ups. They used to be more common, and obviously measure were taken to make them harder for the criminals.

Criminals will always move on to something else, and take the path of least resistance. Nowadays I would think that the big money is in online and phone scams.

I have noticed a reduction in the amount of army escorted cash drops to banks lately. Maybe as people are using debit and credit cards for purchases now, there is a lot less people who have cash lying around the house.

Omackeral

John_Rambo wrote: »

However, I have no problem with an experienced arms handler (like a farmer/hunter) shooting a burglar with violent intent! I don't think anyone else would.

Wouldn't expect anything less from you Mr Rambo :pac:

Ronan|Raven

A shotgun is the only thing a lot of those mobile gangs understand.

John_Rambo

Omackeral wrote: »

Wouldn't expect anything less from you Mr Rambo :pac:

They'd be impaled by bamboo stakes before they rang the doorbell!

tabby aspreme

donegaLroad wrote: »

A few burglars drove from Cork to Donegal recently in a stolen car but were apprehended by the gardaí.

https://www.donegalnow.com/news/garda-detection-cork-burglars-donegal-warning-us/208237

At the end of that article it lists the 4
garda stations open 24/7 in Donegal , not a lot for such a big area

mikemac2

The gangs aren’t operating without local knowledge. For every burglary there was someone who told them it was a good target

In rural North Tipp there was a string of breakins and a lot of farm equipment taken also by a gang from Linerick. When the gang got smashed by the Gardaí a local waster from the village was jailed for six months

On his release he couldn’t get served in the post office, the shop or either of the two pubs. Hey the Irish invented boycotting. In a city this is no issue but in a village you are as good as dead.

He fecked off to England last I heard but I doubt he’s working, never had a steady job in his life.