Best to expect for €1000

Kuva

Using cycling to work, whats the spec I should be looking to get?

Is shimano ultegra groupset (or 105) the way to go?

siochain

Kuva wrote: »

Using cycling to work, whats the spec I should be looking to get?

Is shimano ultegra groupset (or 105) the way to go?

What’s the plan? Commute to work? Sportives?

Highcontrast1

following - also in the same spot as op. 16km to-and-fro.

Kuva

siochain wrote: »

What’s the plan? Commute to work? Sportives?

Oh, im after a road bike, live in the country, just to get out on my days off. I went looking for a bike this time last year and gave up in the end. Couldn't decide what I wanted + very poor bike shops (Midlands), vast majority were unwilling to even let me have a test spin, nearly pulled the trigger on one but then found the exact same bike online but in a B&M store in Dublin for €200 Less!

Im gonna head into the 2 least useless shops from last year and buy best I can. I remember googling groupsets after a few visits and most of the shops were selling old stuff, newer stuff had less gears, can remember how many.

Cee-Jay-Cee

Having owned or currently own bikes with 6800 Ultegra, 5800 105, 4600 Tiagra, 5700 105 and Claris, I'd recommend getting the best frame you can and stick with 4700 Tiagra, its a great groupset, very slick and will do all and more than you need for leisure spins.

I have a Merida Ride 100 with 8spd Claris and it is such a nice bike and Claris is a considerably nicer groupset than 5700 105. Its a bit gappy being an 8spd with an 11/32 cassette but I plan on changing to a 12/28 which should help.

Kuva

Highcontrast1 wrote: »

following - also in the same spot as op. 16km to-and-fro.

Im 33km but job very physical so not an option.

Kuva

Cee-Jay-Cee wrote: »

Having owned or currently own bikes with 6800 Ultegra, 5800 105, 4600 Tiagra, 5700 105 and Claris, I'd recommend getting the best frame you can and stick with 4700 Tiagra, its a great groupset, very slick and will all and more you need.

What frame?

Kuva

Cee-Jay-Cee wrote: »

Having owned or currently own bikes with 6800 Ultegra, 5800 105, 4600 Tiagra, 5700 105 and Claris, I'd recommend getting the best frame you can and stick with 4700 Tiagra, its a great groupset, very slick and will all and more you need.

Jaysus, different versions of groupsets, what changed with the 4600 and 4700?

Cee-Jay-Cee

Kuva wrote: »

Jaysus, different versions of groupsets, what changed with the 4600 and 4700?

Re-worked front and derailleur with slicker/freer shifting. Hidden shifter cables. I test rode a bike a few weeks ago with 4700, I never actually looked at the groupset before hopping on it and there is very little if any difference in shifting with it and my 6800 bike, I didn't realise it was 4700 till I got off and looked at it.

Kuva

Cee-Jay-Cee wrote: »

Re-worked front and derailleur with slicker/freer shifting. Hidden shifter cables. I test rode a bike a few weeks ago with 4700, I never actually looked at the groupset before hopping on it and there is very little if any difference in shifting with it and my 6800 bike, I didn't realise it was 4700 till I got off and looked at it.

Thats high praise, 4700 is half the price of 6800 on chainreaction.

Cee-Jay-Cee

Great spec bike within your budget >> https://www.cyclingpursuits.com/contents/en-uk/p8256_AUDACIO_500.html

Beasty

Have a look at the Dolan website - they offer very good value for money, and quality frames.

10 Carrolls

in the same process myself and I've 99% settled on a Giant Contend sl 2 disc model with 10 spd tiagra. A bit above 1000 but reports are really good.

siochain

Midlands, if your near athlone call into http://planetxireland.com hard to beat for value

magicbastarder

Kuva wrote: »

Using cycling to work, whats the spec I should be looking to get?

Is shimano ultegra groupset (or 105) the way to go?

i know other people got in long before me - but an ultegra groupset on discount - on its own - would probably cost you more than half your budget. are you budgeting for any accessories within your 1k spend? remember that at that price point, pedals are rarely included. and if you've not budgeted for pedals, you may not have budgeted for shoes.

Kuva

magicbastarder wrote: »

i know other people got in long before me - but an ultegra groupset on discount - on its own - would probably cost you more than half your budget. are you budgeting for any accessories within your 1k spend? remember that at that price point, pedals are rarely included. and if you've not budgeted for pedals, you may not have budgeted for shoes.

Pedals are extra? jaysus

€250 for both extra ish on chainreaction...shoes can wait

Kuva

siochain wrote: »

Midlands, if your near athlone call into http://planetxireland.com hard to beat for value

They're 1 of my 2 to try. I have to use these guys to buy https://www.travelhub.ie/ , little bit restrictive, voucher system.

ruffmut

I just took delivery during the week of this bike on the bike to work. Add code save50 and brings it just over the grand to €1015.33

https://www.ribblecycles.co.uk/ribble-sportive-racing-ultegra-se/#pid=49909

I paid a bit extra as I upgraded the brakes to ultegra and got a carbon seatpost. Must change over my Zondas wheels onto it next.

HugoMyBoss

ruffmut wrote: »

I just took delivery during the week of this bike on the bike to work. Add code save50 and brings it just over the grand to €1015.33

https://www.ribblecycles.co.uk/ribble-sportive-racing-ultegra-se/#pid=49909

I paid a bit extra as I upgraded the brakes to ultegra and got a carbon seatpost. Must change over my Zondas wheels onto it next.

Does it really make much difference to a bike that the seat post is carbon??

magicbastarder

from what i understand, it can make a difference to comfort, especially if the frame is stiffer than average. it absorbs some of the bumps.

magicbastarder

Kuva wrote: »

Pedals are extra? jaysus

there are multiple standards for pedals, most of which use proprietary cleats, so they don't pre-judge your choice in the shops.
if you're spending that much on a bike, it's worth considered 'clipless' pedals (i.e. ones where the shoes clip into them) to get the best from the bike.

ruffmut

ruffmut wrote: »

I just took delivery during the week of this bike on the bike to work. Add code save50 and brings it just over the grand to €1015.33

https://www.ribblecycles.co.uk/ribble-sportive-racing-ultegra-se/#pid=49909

I paid a bit extra as I upgraded the brakes to ultegra and got a carbon seatpost. Must change over my Zondas wheels onto it next.

It makes a difference comfort wise as the carbon absorbs more bumps from the road. Also no fear of the seat post getting stuck in the frame of the bike.

com1

The Boardmans can be good in Halfords. I've a team carbon for a couple of years and its a fine bike for < €1000 (though I torqued and serviced it from the start myself. I have heard that their mechanics can be a bit hit and miss)

As for pedals etc - I think Halfords supply flat pedals with their bikes but... you could go clipless for ~€80 (and these are not even the cheapest combo.)

http://www.chainreactioncycles.com/ie/en/diadora-x-phantom-ii-mtb-spd-shoes/rp-prod156830
http://www.chainreactioncycles.com/ie/en/shimano-m530-spd-trail-clipless-mtb-pedals/rp-prod67249

EC1000

Kuva wrote: »

They're 1 of my 2 to try. I have to use these guys to buy https://www.travelhub.ie/ , little bit restrictive, voucher system.

If you're near Mullingar, try Steve in Outdoor Escape - can recommend them and they are on the list with travel hub..

Russman

10 Carrolls wrote: »

in the same process myself and I've 99% settled on a Giant Contend sl 2 disc model with 10 spd tiagra. A bit above 1000 but reports are really good.

+1 on this. I'm far from an expert but with a bit of haggling you should be able to get this for only a little over €1k I'd say. I got the SL 1 Disc model and the LBS knocked €150 off the asking price, so I'd imagine there'd be a bit of fat to come off the SL2 also. Even better if you could find last year's model which is basically the same as this years.

Beasty

Beasty wrote: »

Have a look at the Dolan website - they offer very good value for money, and quality frames.

10% off everything on the Dolan site until Monday - code PAYDAY10

thekooman

is the budget just for a bike? or is the budget for a helmet, shoes, pedals, clothes AND a bike?

105 11s for 1100 euro
https://www.canyon.com/en-ie/road/endurace/2018/endurace-al-7-0.html

tiagra 4700 10s for 900.
https://www.canyon.com/en-ie/road/endurace/2018/endurace-al-6-0.html

local to you
http://planetxireland.com/products-page/rt58-alloy/planet-x-rt-58-v2-alloy-shimano-105-5800-road-bike/, 1000

nice bike as well and you can "talk" to the shop owner on price. orbea avant with tiagra 4700.
http://www.marreybikes.com/men-s-race-bikes-500-1499/7857-orbea-avant-h40-2018-road-bike.html
http://www.marreybikes.com/bike-to-work-packages-discounts-available-these-are-subject-to-terms-and-conditions/7535-bike-to-work-package-3.html

HugoMyBoss

Can most road bikes take mud guards?

thekooman

HugoMyBoss wrote: »

Can most road bikes take mud guards?

every road bike can take the likes of these: http://www.wiggle.co.uk/lifeline-essential-narrow-road-clip-on-rear-mudguard/

but if you want permanent type ones (http://www.wiggle.co.uk/lifeline-narrow-road-mudguard-set/) you need "eyelets" which aren't on 95% of road bikes.

alot of CX bikes have eyelets

CantGetNoSleep

You can also fit SKS raceblade type mudguards on a lot of roadbikes. The are a bit finnicky to set up and don't protect the bike as well, but they do a good job of keeping you dry

rubadub

Kuva wrote: »

Using cycling to work, whats the spec I should be looking to get?

I presume you know, but just in case -you can go over the €1000 on the bike to work scheme if you want, you just get no tax break on the balance over the 1k.

I know a few people who commented on my bike being over the 1k limit and wondered what the story was.

HugoMyBoss

Thanks gents.

Another newbie question, a road bike that has 25mm tyres, would 35mm fit?, say if you wanted to change to 35's in winter.

cdaly_

Typically no. Almost anything with caliper brakes won't take a 35mm tyre. Those with disc brakes might but you'd have to be careful to check frame clearance before purchase.

That said, why not use 35mm year round? They're more comfy and the right ones are just as fast.

HugoMyBoss

cdaly_ wrote: »

Typically no. Almost anything with caliper brakes won't take a 35mm tyre. Those with disc brakes might but you'd have to be careful to check frame clearance before purchase.

That said, why not use 35mm year round? They're more comfy and the right ones are just as fast.

Right, so if this was done in reverse, would there be any problem putting 25mm tyres on a bike bought with 35mm tyres? Sorry if this is a stupid question!!, very new to this.

cdaly_

Physically that would work. I don't see any benefit in doing so though.

magicbastarder

you'd have to check if the bike is supplied with 35mm tyres, that the rims are suitable to take 25mm ones, i guess. it could be too narrow for the rim.

HugoMyBoss

magicbastarder wrote: »

you'd have to check if the bike is supplied with 35mm tyres, that the rims are suitable to take 25mm ones, i guess. it could be too narrow for the rim.

Cheers,will do.

thekooman

HugoMyBoss wrote: »

Right, so if this was done in reverse, would there be any problem putting 25mm tyres on a bike bought with 35mm tyres? Sorry if this is a stupid question!!, very new to this.

you are going to be looking for a CX or gravel bike so... i've a Caadx that takes 35mm tyres and for winter road training i put 25mm tyres on the same rims. again, depends on the wheelset but majority will take those sizes and in between.

Kuva

Would normal 25mm tyres be ok on the fine gravel they've put on the green ways??


https://touch.boards.ie/thread/2057835937/1

thekooman

Kuva wrote: »

Would normal 25mm tyres be ok on the fine gravel they've put on the green ways??


https://touch.boards.ie/thread/2057835937/1

should be fine but not as much grip. you shouldn't puncture that easily.

a tyre like this in 25mm would be good; http://www.chainreactioncycles.com/ie/en/schwalbe-marathon-touring-tyre-greenguard/rp-prod69133
as you can see you can get this up to 38mm!

Mycroft H

CantGetNoSleep wrote: »

You can also fit SKS raceblade type mudguards on a lot of roadbikes. The are a bit finnicky to set up and don't protect the bike as well, but they do a good job of keeping you dry

The clip on ones do a rubbish job of protecting the bike though. Very little protection for the chainset or the headset.

HugoMyBoss

Any closer to which bike your getting OP?

My selections so far:

Carbon frame
105 gearset

I dont think I'll be getting one for under a 1000 euro.

HugoMyBoss

Thinking of going with this one.

http://planetxireland.com/products-page/sl-pro-carbon/planet-x-pro-carbon-with-shimano-105/

Anyone think I could do better elsewhere for 1400.

f1000

that (nearly same) bike is listed as €984 on the UK site. Why is a lot more expensive here?

plus €37 to ship

f1000

Weepsie wrote: »

They're not the same company, rather they are a licenced to use the name and sell the products. The UK operation is operating on a much bigger scale and can afford to sell cheaper.

Didn't realise that. My Bad

HugoMyBoss

f1000 wrote: »

that (nearly same) bike is listed as €984 on the UK site. Why is a lot more expensive here?

plus €37 to ship

This interests me, thank you very much for this.

irishrover99

Kuva wrote: »

Would normal 25mm tyres be ok on the fine gravel they've put on the green ways??


https://touch.boards.ie/thread/2057835937/1

I put a 30 mm CX tyre on the front and a 25 mm touring tyre on the back of my commuting road bike and i used it a lot in the winter in the phoenix park and up the mountains on the fire roads without any real issues other than when i encountered deep mud.

I only stopped because i got sick of cleaning my bike before i brought it into the office.
Ill be going back to that set up in the summer for some off road fun

HugoMyBoss

Im still searching for carbon framed bikes with 105 gearsets.

Finding it really difficult to select a manufacturer.

Help!!, looking at spending 1300 - 1500.

Giant, Canyon, Lapierre are what I have been looking at most.

HugoMyBoss

HugoMyBoss wrote: »

Im still searching for carbon framed bikes with 105 gearsets.

Finding it really difficult to select a manufacturer.

Help!!, looking at spending 1300 - 1500.

Giant, Canyon, Lapierre are what I have been looking at most.

personally, I would sacrifice the carbon frame if anything.

shame you can't stretch to €1800, because this sounds perfect https://www.ribblecycles.co.uk/ribble-cx5/

they do am aluminium one for a lot less https://www.ribblecycles.co.uk/build/specification/view/specification_id/11/#confirmation

But they also do non CX bikes (so may not fit your 35mm tyres) for a lot less that will give you carbon and 105 (or even Ultegra) for your money https://www.ribblecycles.co.uk/ribble-sportive-racing/

HugoMyBoss

Aegir wrote: »

But they also do non CX bikes (so may not fit your 35mm tyres) for a lot less that will give you carbon and 105 (or even Ultegra) for your money https://www.ribblecycles.co.uk/ribble-sportive-racing/

Thanks for this, thinking of spending a little bit more and going for this

https://www.canyon.com/en-ie/road/endurace/endurace-cf-7-0.html

(Have decided to stick with 25 tyres)

Anyone have any comments on this Canyon. This bike would also be suitable for racing yes?

thekooman

HugoMyBoss wrote: »

Thanks for this, thinking of spending a little bit more and going for this

https://www.canyon.com/en-ie/road/endurace/endurace-cf-7-0.html

(Have decided to stick with 25 tyres)

Anyone have any comments on this Canyon. This bike would also be suitable for racing yes?

more than capable. its not the bike, its the legs that make the difference.