LGBT Awards

AllForIt

I just seen on the BBC news website that there is such a thing as the LGBT adwards.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/newsbeat-42990791

As a G I find the concept of such an event extremely patronizing and condescending.

I get it's probably dreamt up my those irritating luvvie types for luvvies types and that most LGBT's couldn't care less about it.

But the irony of fighting for equality on the basis that we are the same as everyone else and then when you get that equality to then hold an event which completely contradicts that valid argument is just plain daft to me.

So ya, screw the LGBT awards.

alan partridge aha

Personally I think it's a load of bullsh1t myself.

splinter65

AllForIt wrote: »

I just seen on the BBC news website that there is such a thing as the LGBT adwards.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/newsbeat-42990791

As a G I find the concept of such an event extremely patronizing and condescending.

I get it's probably dreamt up my those irritating luvvie types for luvvies types and that most LGBT's couldn't care less about it.

But the irony of fighting for equality on the basis that we are the same as everyone else and then when you get that equality to then hold an event which completely contradicts that valid argument is just plain daft to me.

So ya, screw the LGBT awards.

I think it’s the LGBT community wanting to give a nod to people both gay and straight who have gone above and beyond to support a heretofore marginalized discriminated against minority group.
That’s all.
Nothing condescending or patronizing about it.

ToddyDoody

I'd say the organisers make a fortune.

Silentcorner

ToddyDoody wrote: »

I'd say the organisers make a fortune.

Nail on the head....

Its a shake down...

All Industry awards nights are just shake downs....fueled by vanity more often than not...

Richard Hillman

I see LBGT history month is starting to become a thing. I swear, I actually think there are some people who prefer to be marginalized and are not happy unless they are being shunned by society.

suicide_circus

Everything is a power struggle - choose a side

kneemos

Housewife of the year was patronising. Dunno about these cos I can't be bothered to read the link.

vicwatson

I'm starting the Male Heterosexual awards, not sure if it's gonna go down too well though, we are like snow leopards these days !!

vicwatson

kneemos wrote: »

Housewife of the year was patronising. Dunno about these cos I can't be bothered to read the link.

Lovely girls competition anyone :eek:

Hector Bellend

vicwatson wrote: »

I'm starting the Male Heterosexual awards, not sure if it's gonna go down too well though, we are like snow leopards these days !!

I'm with you. "Straight white bloke day" has a certain ring to it.

We can run it in tandem with "steak and blow day"

Hector Bellend

vicwatson wrote: »

Lovely girls competition anyone :eek:

We have that covered. The AVN awards.

splinter65

vicwatson wrote: »

I'm starting the Male Heterosexual awards, not sure if it's gonna go down too well though, we are like snow leopards these days !!

There needs to be a White Male Heterosexual award subsection within that though, the most reviled species on the planet at the moment.
Worser then Hitler and Stalin rolled into one they do be!

s7ryf3925pivug

Speaking as a white hetero male, I wish certain other white hetero males would shut the fnck up whinging about their victimhood fantasies.

pauliebdub

We have something similar over here every October that recognise people and organisations that make a difference for the LGBT community, don't see an issue with them myself.

https://www.galas.ie

The_Valeyard

splinter65 wrote: »

There needs to be a White Male Heterosexual award subsection within that though, the most reviled species on the planet at the moment.
Worser then Hitler and Stalin rolled into one they do be!

And they were both white and male!

pitifulgod

pauliebdub wrote: »

We have something similar over here every October that recognise people and organisations that make a difference for the LGBT community, don't see an issue with them myself.

https://www.galas.ie

Yep, such activists depending on the country face varying degrees of threats and intimidation for their work. Seems fair to acknowledge people doing good work. Whatever area, I don't really find an issue with it. The article draws attention to the celebrity awards but other awards include "Charity or Community Initiative", "Employer or Company", "Outstanding Contribution to LGBT+ Life"(Activists basically) plus other awards for LGBT people who have gained substantial recognition in their field.

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/home-news/british-lgbt-awards-shorlist-celebrity-nominees-gay-trans-rights-straight-allies-a8199831.html

Doesn't affect any of us, we don't even have to pay attention to it but I'm fine with recognising people. Bit weird to have it bothering you in slightest... :P

Princess Consuela Bananahammock

Hector Bellend wrote: »

I'm with you. "Straight white bloke day" has a certain ring to it.

We can run it in tandem with "steak and blow day"

You mean the "not a member of a minority group that had to fight for equal human rights" day? Just pick any day in the calender year - apart from March 17th - should work.

splinter65

The_Valeyard wrote: »

And they were both white and male!

and heterosexual ?

Jack Kanoff

Evangeline Vast Saliva wrote: »

Speaking as a white hetero male, I wish certain other white hetero males would shut the fnck up whinging about their victimhood fantasies.

Stop oppressing us

Yer Da sells Avon

Hector Bellend wrote: »

I'm with you. "Straight white bloke day" has a certain ring to it.

We can run it in tandem with "steak and blow day"

And we can all give each other blow jobs.

Irish Guitarist

"Straight ally of the year". There's an award to be proud of. The trophy would look great on the shelf beside your Oscar or Grammy. How do you go about winning one of those?

Taco Chips

Why does it bother you so much? Why not just let people have things instead of griping about an attempt at spreading positivity and recognising people who support and campaign for others.

eviltwin

Maybe it's a generational thing. If you're young you've probably grown up with homosexuality being normal and acceptable even celebrated. Awards like this seem pointless. I grew up in the 80's when it was a different time, a gay man beaten to death in Dublin just for being gay and his killers walking free, young men dying alone of Aids because they had been disowned by their family, rampant homophobia......a lot of people took huge risks personally and professionally being open about their sexuality or being allies to the movement. I don't think there is anything wrong with some acknowledgement of that.

Widdershins

Identity politics. Not individuals, just letters and members of 'communities'.

Pac1Man

Just giving some context about how meaningless everything we do is.

DEFTLEFTHAND

My queer sister and her partner don't like the T. They don't like being tagged with them, completely different things.

Pac1Man

DEFTLEFTHAND wrote: »

My queer sister and her partner don't like the T. They don't like been tagged with them, completely different things.

I thought G & T go well together?

wakka12

DEFTLEFTHAND wrote: »

My queer sister and her partner don't like the T. They don't like being tagged with them, completely different things.

Yes they're different but the groups were traditionally allied with one another and presumably the term was coined by a group of mix of lgb and t people

DEFTLEFTHAND

Pac1Man wrote: »

I thought G & T go well together?

Wouldn't mind one at the moment. It's been a tough day.

pitifulgod

DEFTLEFTHAND wrote: »

My queer sister and her partner don't like the T. They don't like being tagged with them, completely different things.

Grand job, they must be representative of all so. Certain groups wish to exclude trans people. I view it as discrimination.

SEPT 23 1989

Always a big song and dance

Widdershins

eviltwin wrote: »

Maybe it's a generational thing. If you're young you've probably grown up with homosexuality being normal and acceptable even celebrated. Awards like this seem pointless. I grew up in the 80's when it was a different time, a gay man beaten to death in Dublin just for being gay and his killers walking free, young men dying alone of Aids because they had been disowned by their family, rampant homophobia......a lot of people took huge risks personally and professionally being open about their sexuality or being allies to the movement. I don't think there is anything wrong with some acknowledgement of that.

If the awards are going to older campaigners or anyone who took personal or professional risks or actually worked to improve peoples situations, I don't see anything wrong. But when I see things like this mentioned it's always much younger people who are involved and talking about it. To me it comes across as celebration of something that should be simply accepted and unremarkable-the celebration of someones' sexual persuasion in its own right, for its own sake, just seems unnecessary and bizarre to me. As someone said, a song and dance.

NollagShona

Awards dear? For LGBT people and their allies dear?

HOW VERY DARE THEY!!!

King of Kings

Princess Consuela Bananahammock wrote: »

You mean the "not a member of a minority group that had to fight for equal human rights" day? Just pick any day in the calender year - apart from March 17th - should work.

while I don't care about an awards ceremony or a special day/week/month.

comments like yours annoy me , the idea that a white hetro male doesn't face discrimination is pure ignorance.

You clearly never spent time or had any experience with family court either here or the Uk.

NollagShona

King of Kings wrote: »

while I don't care about an awards ceremony or a special day/week/month.

comments like yours annoy me , the idea that a white hetro male doesn't face discrimination is pure ignorance.

You clearly never spent time or had any experience with family court either here or the Uk.

That’s not for being a White hetro Male tho- that’s for being a separated father

King of Kings

NollagShona wrote: »

That’s not for being a White hetro Male tho- that’s for being a separated father

the vast majority in ireland are white and it's definitely a hetro thing the making babies thing.

what I mean is , you can't claim that there is white male hetro privilege when they lose out systemically with an organ of the state.
not some private business like a baker but a function of the state.

pickarooney

Pac1Man wrote: »

I thought G & T go well together?

BLT is a classic

Jack Kanoff

pickarooney wrote: »

BLT is a classic

Big Lesbian Threesome ?

jacksie66

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Annasopra

DEFTLEFTHAND wrote: »

My queer sister and her partner don't like the T. They don't like being tagged with them, completely different things.

Really? And they identify as queer?

Annasopra

Jack Kanoff wrote: »

Big Lesbian Threesome ?

Lesbians Give Better Tongue

Hande hoche!

Joeytheparrot wrote: »

Really? And they identify as queer?

TERFs are seemingly a thing.

Princess Consuela Bananahammock

King of Kings wrote: »

Princess Consuela Bananahammock wrote: »

You mean the "not a member of a minority group that had to fight for equal human rights" day? Just pick any day in the calender year - apart from March 17th - should work.

while I don't care about an awards ceremony or a special day/week/month.

comments like yours annoy me , the idea that a white hetro male doesn't face discrimination is pure ignorance.

You clearly never spent time or had any experience with family court either here or the Uk.

You need to take the quote in context.

But in answer to your questions: no, but I have had elsewhere. The idea that Irish/British people discriminate is not a surprise to me.

ToddyDoody

Jack Kanoff wrote: »

Big Lesbian Threesome ?

Just how big are we talking?

Sonics2k

Joeytheparrot wrote: »

Really? And they identify as queer?

Probably TERF's. Bloody awful people, and absolute hypocrites too.

NollagShona

King of Kings wrote: »

the vast majority in ireland are white and it's definitely a hetro thing the making babies thing.

what I mean is , you can't claim that there is white male hetro privilege when they lose out systemically with an organ of the state.
not some private business like a baker but a function of the state.

Unmarried fathers have a right to guardianship in this county, but I’m sure you knew that

padd b1975

Its Snowing Out wrote: »

What's the difference between queer and gay?

If you're straight and use the word 'queer', you run the risk of being burned at the stake by the offence-seekers.

Just ask Martin O' Neill.

Saruhashi

Its Snowing Out wrote: »

What's the difference between queer and gay?

Anyway it's fair enough. The whole 'lgbt' thing is kind of a forced collective identity when you think about it. You probably have loads of gays who despise lesbians and transgenders who hate men.

I was thinking about that too when someone mentioned TERFs a few posts back.

It would surely be possible for someone to be a Radical Feminist and a lesbian and transphobic.

So how do they fit into the collective? If they are a lesbian then they fall under the LGBTQ+ umbrella but if they are against trans people and some of the people coming in under the "+" then they can't exactly be excommunicated, can they?

If you're gay, you're gay and that's it. It's not like it can be taken away. So even if you hate feminists and have a bad attitude towards trans people and think that "two spirit" is a load of nonsense the LGBTQ+ community is still going to try and speak for you.

Is it possible to be "L" but also not be part of "LGBT"?

suicide_circus

So who one the gayest newcomer in a supporting role award?

NollagShona

padd b1975 wrote: »

If you're straight and use the word 'queer', you run the risk of being burned at the stake by the offence-seekers.

Just ask Martin O' Neill.

When you use it in a derogatory manner expect it