Four dogs killed and one car damaged after hunt spills onto busy motorway

J.R.

https://www.independent.ie/irish-news/news/four-dogs-killed-and-one-car-damaged-after-hunt-spills-onto-busy-motorway-36575980.html

Rows Grower

64 views and the silence is deafening, come on lads get an old chat going.

Hitman3000

"The uneatable,being pursued by the unspeakable " Oscar Wilde I believe.

Rows Grower

Now Ye're Talkin'

EPAndlee

Just ban the hunt

gozunda

Hitman3000 wrote:

The uneatable,being pursued by the unspeakable " Oscar Wilde I believe.

Considering the guy who said that did not follow the prescribed morality of his day is quite ironic. Btw saying somethibg x3 times doesnt make it so.

Accidents happen. Animals get killed all the time on motorways. # Faux outrage = # faux news

Let's #banallvehicles :rolleyes:

snipey

just an accident, the hunt will reimburse the motorist, nothing to talk about here.

wexie

Rows Grower wrote: »

64 views and the silence is deafening, come on lads get an old chat going.

How bout you start one? Have any thoughts or opinions of your own?
That's normally how you start a chat

Tom Mann Centuria

This is a pro hunting forum, as clearly set out in their charter, so it's probably pointless discussing it here.

Rows Grower

wexie wrote: »

How bout you start one? Have any thoughts or opinions of your own?
That's normally how you start a chat

No bother.

I think the report in the paper is a bit red toppy kind of journalism to be honest.

The garda spokesperson seems to contradict the report made by two journalists.

Something doesn't add up here.

How's that?

Cass

Rows Grower wrote: »

64 views and the silence is deafening, come on lads get an old chat going.

About what.

Through incompetence, ignorance or lack of control the dogs got away and were hit (according to the article). A sorry incident and other than it being a hunt involved, dogs being hit by cars happens daily all around the country.

The reason this is sensationalised is because it involves a hunt. Yet another chance for the liberal side to take a shot at a sport they know nothing about.

Cass

Rubberchikken wrote: »

Poor dogs. They didnt deserve to be in tje company of these hunt idiots.

Let me remind you of the forum you are on.

You are free to post even if the posts are in opposition but the sport is legal, and you don't know the people involved. So cool it with the insults.

dodderangler

Hitman3000 wrote: »

"The uneatable,being pursued by the unspeakable " Oscar Wilde I believe.

Not really much sense when foxes are edible though.

Cass

Hitman3000 wrote: »

"The uneatable,being pursued by the unspeakable " Oscar Wilde I believe.

M'eh.

Fox hunting serves a purpose and only the ignorant think it's not needed or that foxes are cute, cuddly and something out of a Disney film.

I personally don't see the appeal to this type of hunting, but that is because of the Horses. I don't trust them. They are dangerous at both ends and crafty in the middle.

wexie

Rows Grower wrote: »

How's that?

I would imagine that is probably because gardai spokesperson is reporting actual facts, journalist have a tendency to give a particular slant to facts by the language they use.

Also I doubt that garda spokesperson would consider to be a dog killed as something they need to report as 'injuries' or 'fatalities'.

It's an unfortunate incident by all accounts but I very much doubt you're going to be getting the reaction you're no doubt hoping for.

Rows Grower

wexie wrote: »

I would imagine that is probably because gardai spokesperson is reporting actual facts, journalist have a tendency to give a particular slant to facts by the language they use.

Also I doubt that garda spokesperson would consider to be a dog killed as something they need to report as 'injuries' or 'fatalities'.

It's an unfortunate incident by all accounts but I very much doubt you're going to be getting the reaction you're no doubt hoping for.

You seem to have misunderstood me when I said "How's that".

That was in reply to you asking me to get the ball rolling.

I'm hunting over 35 years.

byhookorbycrook

"A collision occurred between a dog and a car on the M3. No injuries at scene."
One hound, ie half a couple. So should we post every single time a dog gets knocked down. Keep your "anti" venom for the likes of John Fitzgerald. Sad loss of the hound, but not worth sh*t stirring unless you have a particular agenda.

liam7831

What were they hunting ? Do they not have any jobs ?

wexie

Rows Grower wrote: »

Something doesn't add up here.

How's that?

Rows Grower wrote: »

You seem to have misunderstood me when I said "How's that".

Haha, I did indeed. I thought you meant : something doesn't add up here, how's that? Apologies.

Answer pretty much stays the same though, sounds like the journalists are looking to create some outrage, as so often these days. You know, cause there aren't already enough actual things in the world we could get (rightly) outraged over (if ya felt like it)

This an unfortunate accident but an accident nonetheless

Rows Grower

wexie wrote: »

Haha, I did indeed. I thought you meant : something doesn't add up here, how's that? Apologies.

Answer pretty much stays the same though, sounds like the journalists are looking to create some outrage, as so often these days. You know, cause there aren't already enough actual things in the world we could get (rightly) outraged over (if ya felt like it)

This an unfortunate accident but an accident nonetheless

No bother, I have to wonder how long those two journalists spent writing that rubbish and how it even got to print?

Cass

EPAndlee wrote: »

Just ban the hunt

Why?

wexie

Rows Grower wrote: »

No bother, I have to wonder how long those two journalists spent writing that rubbish and how it even got to print?

I wonder that a lot about newspapers these days

I always try to remind myself their business isn't actually giving us 'the news'.
They make money by selling advertising. In order to do that they need readers. They get readers by sensationalizing stuff.

Seems nobody is interested in just 'the news' anymore.
Imagine having to read just facts and making up your own mind about something:eek:

I wish we could go back to just 'the news' though. Would be a lot better for everybody. (also I don't think that what celebrity shagged who in which orifice is really news, but that's just me)

Klinkhammer

dodderangler wrote: »

Not really much sense when foxes are edible though.

Out of genuine curiosity, have you eaten a fox?

Hitman3000

dodderangler wrote:

Not really much sense when foxes are edible though.

I quoted Oscar Wilde never stated whether it was accurate or not. Never came across a recipe though.

Hitman3000

Cass wrote:

Fox hunting serves a purpose and only the ignorant think it's not needed or that foxes are cute, cuddly and something out of a Disney film.

It does serve a purpose to a degree, but I have observed the behaviour where I live of some of these mounted hunts. Arrogance would be a polite word to use.

allan450

i blame the fox he should have crossed at the traffic lights

Cass

Hitman3000 wrote: »

It does serve a purpose to a degree, but I have observed the behaviour where I live of some of these mounted hunts. Arrogance would be a polite word to use.

Local hunt to me has some less than pleasant characters, but i don't judge the sport based on the attitudes of a few.

gozunda

Hitman3000 wrote: »

It does serve a purpose to a degree, but I have observed the behaviour where I live of some of these mounted hunts. Arrogance would be a polite word to use.

Perhaps - however that's the same as an obervation that some motorists you've seen are ignorant and by implication all motorists are similar. Generalities help no-one imo. The same holds for all interest groups whether golf, shooting or whatever

allan450

think about the revenue all the feed for horses and dogs the diesel to get there.maybe a few drinks in the local after.it will never be banned

Hitman3000

gozunda wrote:

Perhaps - however that's the same as an obervation that some motorists you've seen are ignorant and by implication all motorists are similar. Generalities help no-one imo. The same holds for all interest groups whether golf, shooting or whatever

No only speaking about the mounted hunts I have observed in my locality, can't talk about other ones as I haven't seen their behaviour.

allan450

nice 1st post you take alot more with the lamp anyway

Tommyaya4

Post like this are not going to do any good for the shooting community only serves to attract anti to what is a pro hunting forum

Ave Sodalis

We don't even know if this was a fox hunt or a drag hunt gone wrong and yet there's pitch forks...

gozunda

wexie wrote: »

I wonder that a lot about newspapers these days

I always try to remind myself their business isn't actually giving us 'the news'.
They make money by selling advertising. In order to do that they need readers. They get readers by sensationalizing stuff.

Seems nobody is interested in just 'the news' anymore.
Imagine having to read just facts and making up your own mind about something:eek:

I wish we could go back to just 'the news' though. Would be a lot better for everybody. (also I don't think that what celebrity shagged who in which orifice is really news, but that's just me)

I really starting to dislike the medja here - it's starting to sound a lot like the British Tabloid rubbish.

Anyone see the Indo headline today about the dear cull in the Phoenix Park?

Sniper was hired to kill more than 200 deer in Phoenix Park

Ffs what kinda rubbish is that for what is the proper management of a deer herd in an urban environment.

wexie

gozunda wrote: »

Ffs what kinda rubbish is that for what is the proper management of a deer herd in an urban environment.

A sniper?....

Don't think I've ever heard it called a sniper in reference to animals.

Would that not just mean a good hunter like? They hardly got the army involved did they?

Cass

What a pity.

Letting the thread run, but there is always some troll out to insult, and cause problems.

I've removed the offending posts and any post quoting it, in case any of you wonder where your posts went.

Lets try to keep it civil and on topic. There will be no warnings for any violations of this.

gunny123

Ave Sodalis wrote: »

We don't even know if this was a fox hunt or a drag hunt gone wrong and yet there's pitch forks...

I've seen some anti's protesting at drag hunts, absolutely pointless class warfare nonsense, by grotty student types with too much time on their hands.

gunny123

Maybe we should ban falconry too :rolleyes:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wkuo7-sefEQ

Hitman3000

Cass wrote:

Local hunt to me has some less than pleasant characters, but i don't judge the sport based on the attitudes of a few.

Cass I'm only passing on my observations of what I have seen. Maybe it's the arrogant ones whom seem to garner attention. I however don't dispute the necessity to control numbers it's the manner in which it is done I find deplorable.
I have seen the havoc a fox can inflict so I don't view them as some cuddly Disney character.

Hitman3000

gunny123 wrote:

Maybe we should ban falconry too

...and trucks.

Ave Sodalis

gunny123 wrote: »

I've seen some anti's protesting at drag hunts, absolutely pointless class warfare nonsense, by grotty student types with too much time on their hands.

I've found they're actually usually middle aged ejits with too much time and too little sense. They're also usually violent towards the horses, which makes absolutely no sense what so ever. I seen a video of someone hauling the mouth off a horse from the ground... their defense was that the rider tried to ride him over, but then it transpired that they had a child on a pony surrounded and the horse rider was trying to get the child out... I'm not even a fan of fox hunting but sabs are just scumbags

gunny123

Hitman3000 wrote: »

Cass I'm only passing on my observations of what I have seen. Maybe it's the arrogant ones whom seem to garner attention. I however don't dispute the necessity to control numbers it's the manner in which it is done I find deplorable.
I have seen the havoc a fox can inflict so I don't view them as some cuddly Disney character.

I used to be at the hunts in kildare years ago. Some of the nicest people you could meet were the ones with a title and no arse in their trousers. The ones to dodge were the social climber, Hyacinth Bucket types, absolute dose's most of them, with a stuck on d4 accent, a hire by the day horse and an arrogance that would make your blood boil.

I never want to be called "my good man" again, especially by some fool with an over inflated opinion of himself.

tayto lover

Well done fox. Good move.

gozunda

Hitman3000 wrote: »

Cass I'm only passing on my observations of what I have seen. Maybe it's the arrogant ones whom seem to garner attention. I however don't dispute the necessity to control numbers it's the manner in which it is done I find deplorable.
I have seen the havoc a fox can inflict so I don't view them as some cuddly Disney character.

Hitman- will have to disagree like any hunting activities it is difficult to properly judge any particular group whatever form of hunting etc from the outside. Not saying there aint aholes but no I'd disagree the dispatch is not deplorable imo. Death is quick - ya not pretty afterwards but if there were natural predators not much different at all. Most who participating in hunting around here are farmers.

Hitman3000

gozunda wrote:

Hitman- will have to disagree like any hunting activities it is difficult to properly judge any particular group whatever form of hunting etc from the outside. Not saying there aint aholes but no I'd disagree the dispatch is not deplorable imo. Death is quick - ya not pretty afterwards but if there were natural predators not much different at all. Most who participating in hunting around here are farmers.

Totally respect your opinion, it'd be a very boring world if we all agreed. As I said just passing on my limited observations to what I have seen. In regards aholes fully agree, they are everywhere.

Cass

Hitman3000 wrote: »

Cass I'm only passing on my observations of what I have seen. Maybe it's the arrogant ones whom seem to garner attention.

Arrogant, ignorant and insulting people will always stand out and leave an impression so yes, one or two can taint a whole sport. I make no apologies or excuses for them. Unfortunately in every sport you'll have a dick (or two), but it's important not to allow the actions of a few to be wrongly interpreted as the view of the whole sport.

I however don't dispute the necessity to control numbers it's the manner in which it is done I find deplorable.

Unfortunately i'm not one of those that believe that because it's 2018 that all the old traditions should be banned. The notion that i should give up a lifestyle because its old fashioned is ridiculous. I hold the same opinion for Foxhunts whether i take part in them or not.

liam7831

Im still wondering if this crowd have any jobs, like a monday afternoon

liam7831

Im still wondering if this crowd have any jobs, like a monday afternoon

Ave Sodalis

liam7831 wrote: »

Im still wondering if this crowd have any jobs, like a monday afternoon

Not everyone works Monday to Friday, or it could be coming out of holiday time. Some of the horses there are rode by people who's job it is to train horse because hunting is one of the best things for them. Some people there are farmers that own the land.

Hitman3000

Apologies for the triple post, I only hit the post button once.

gunny123

I think i am still correct in saying that to run a horse in national hunt races, that horse must have been hunted a certain amount of times, and you have to have proof, as in a cert signed by the secretary of the hunt. That used to be the case, i don't know if that rule was changed since i was involved in the whole thing.

So some of those people being there on a monday afternoon, might be stablehands being paid to be there.