Americanisms and pronunciation

campingcarist

Personally I hate all these Americanisms and pronunciation that are creeping (or have crept) into the English language over here and in the UK as well.

Words:
gonna

Pronunciation:
process ('o' as in hot)
depot ('e' as in deep)

Are our young people learning English from too many American TV shows and films or is it taht I am just too old to accept these types of changes?

spurious

'skedjool' annoys me too.

Jellybaby1

Vacation
Tooosday

Funnily enough although Americanisms annoy me I occasionally find myself falling into using the odd word here and there and then I'm annoyed at myself!

ytpe2r5bxkn0c1

I could care less.

No no no.

It's I couldn't care less.

I could care les makes no sense whatsoever.

Esel

I care a little, but I could care less.

Dakota Dan

Kids
Sucks
Dicks

:eek:

Stooped wanna be Americans

Jellybaby1

Dakota Dan wrote: »

Kids
Sucks
Dicks

:eek:

Stooped wanna be Americans

I read that wrong - thought you meant they had back trouble!

garancafan

Dakota Dan wrote: »

Stooped wanna be Americans

Almost as bad as stoop-ed Americans who wannabe aye-er-ish.

JuliusCaesar

"gotten" - now even in newspapers and radio.

"listen up" "wait up" ...... whatever happened to "listen" and "wait"? Weren't they good enough?

campingcarist

Friends I had in London, some 30 years ago would go to the bank to 'change up' money. Never could understand the logic in that.

Jellybaby1

I remember when everyone began using 'Hi' for hello. Heard it on all those American TV programmes (not programs!). Now we all use 'Hi' these days and don't think anything about it. But I dislike hearing 'Hey' for hello!

Graces7

Car terms... They call the bonnet the hood and and the boot the trunk.. I mean REALLY ! whoever heard the like!

Jellybaby1

I listened to Ivan Yeates' programme on Newstalk this afternoon and they talked about Irish people using D4/West Brit accents to sound more educated, cultured or just posh. I would agree to a certain extent, however, I believe a lot of Irish people use more 'East American now than West Brit. 'Mammy' became 'Mummy', but now it has become 'Mom'. :eek: Saints preserve us!

jaxxx

Jellybaby1 wrote: »

I listened to Ivan Yeates' programme on Newstalk this afternoon and they talked about Irish people using D4/West Brit accents to sound more educated, cultured or just posh. I would agree to a certain extent, however, I believe a lot of Irish people use more 'East American now than West Brit. 'Mammy' became 'Mummy', but now it has become 'Mom'. :eek: Saints preserve us!

Actually I just call my mother by her name :pac:

Jellybaby1

jaxxx wrote: »

Actually I just call my mother by her name :pac:

:eek::eek:
No matter jaxxx - you'll always be her little baby!

Franz Von Peppercorn

I bet that most of us are using Americanisms (like ok) that our ancestors would be appalled by. So it goes.

gammygils

Expiration?? It's Expiry
Zee - It's Zed!
Aluminum(Aloominum)- It's Aluminium
And a Fanny is not an ass! Close though :pac:

khaldrogo

jaxxx wrote:

Actually I just call my mother by her name

So do I.......

Jellybaby1

khaldrogo wrote: »

So do I.......

:eek::eek:
It's the end of the world!!

Graces7

HI! irks me. Used by officials especially

and "I'm good."

Mullaghteelin

Jellybaby1 wrote: »

I remember when everyone began using 'Hi' for hello. Heard it on all those American TV programmes (not programs!). Now we all use 'Hi' these days and don't think anything about it. But I dislike hearing 'Hey' for hello!

"Hello" was pretty much invented with the telephone, "hi" has been use for far longer.

ytpe2r5bxkn0c1

Mullaghteelin wrote: »

"Hello" was pretty much invented with the telephone, "hi" has been use for far longer.

Yes, Hello was infrequently used from it's first use in the 1820s until the popular use when answering the telephone. Hi comes from middle English Hey and is in use much longer.

garancafan

gammygils wrote: »

...Aluminum(Aloominum)- It's Aluminium...

Aluminum actually preceded Aluminium.

jaxxx

garancafan wrote: »

Aluminum actually preceded Aluminium.

It matters not, I cannot take a version of English that spells colour without a 'u' seriously!

Jellybaby1

Which begs the question, how did the pilgrims lose so many vowels when they moved to America?

jaxxx

Jellybaby1 wrote: »

Which begs the question, how did the pilgrims lose so many vowels when they moved to America?

I blame the water. Has to be, surely. What other explanation can there be with their fascination unnatural obsession with guns? Or else a wizard did it! :eek:

Jellybaby1

Their pronunciations are curious too.

Our Winter Wonderland - their Winner Wunnerland

jaxxx

Jellybaby1 wrote: »

Their pronunciations are curious too.

Our Winter Wonderland - their Winner Wunnerland

Plus they voted in some sort of unknown extra terrestrial creature as their president (though not all of them to be fair, but that's democracy for you) and that's without including the extra-extra terestrial creature that resides on top of said extra terrestrial's head!

garancafan

And there's no f'n sulphur.

ytpe2r5bxkn0c1

garancafan wrote: »

And there's no f'n sulphur.

I'm sorry to say but Sulfur is now the correct spelling in scientific circles. You'd lose marks on your paper if you put Sulphur nowadays.

New Home

I hate the expressions "It's all good" and "I'm happy out" (although I'm not certain the latter is an Americanism). I also hate the term Winterval.

OldMrBrennan83

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New Home

Shed-ool

OldMrBrennan83

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garancafan

Laurie Uninterested Gnat wrote: »

I'm sorry to say but Sulfur is now the correct spelling in scientific circles. You'd lose marks on your paper if you put Sulphur nowadays.

I'm painfully aware of that (pheckin IUPAC) - I've had to tediously revise a manuscript for the Journal of the Chemical Society on a subject pertaining to sulfur compounds when a decade earlier "sulphur" did the job.

How long before fosforus? However I shall resist to the death any interference with "phthalate" - I spent too long practicing its pronunciation.

ytpe2r5bxkn0c1

garancafan wrote: »

However I shall resist to the death any interference with "phthalate" - I spent too long practicing its pronunciation.

For use in plasticisers or plasticizers?


Their use of Z (Zee :rolleyes:) for S does my head in.

Jellybaby1

New Home wrote: »

Shed-ool

I would have said 'shed-ju-wel'

garancafan

Laurie Uninterested Gnat wrote: »

For use in plasticisers or plasticizers?


Their use of Z (Zee :rolleyes:) for S does my head in.

Likewize.

New Home

Again, I said it before, but the way they pronounce "route" and "router".

Skerries

garancafan wrote: »

I've had to tediously revise a manuscript for the Journal of the Chemical Society

did you not just use find and replace in word?

very handy when I was submitting essays that were copied from an American website

looksee

Skerries wrote: »

did you not just use find and replace in word?

very handy when I was submitting essays that were copied from an American website

I was wondering that myself, but quite likely it was not a word document. I would not do anything in Word if I could avoid it.

campingcarist

Skerries wrote: »

did you not just use find and replace in word?

very handy when I was submitting essays that were copied from an American website

Ah yes, the good old copy and paste which may be seen in some Irish online papers, especially thejournal.ie - a sister site of Boards.ie, I believe (see bottom of page).

endacl

New Home wrote: »

Shed-oolyule

:mad:

OldMrBrennan83

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garancafan

:) There was life long before personal computers. I chose the term "manuscript" deliberately.

Tranceypoo

Ugh 'leash' instead of 'lead' for the dog, I only muttered to myself this very morning "it's LEAD not LEASH ffs"

endacl

Patww79 wrote: »

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I find that hard to beloove.

ytpe2r5bxkn0c1

Tranceypoo wrote: »

Ugh 'leash' instead of 'lead' for the dog, I only muttered to myself this very morning "it's LEAD not LEASH ffs"

It's not an Americanism though. Signs in parks here referred to dogs being kept on a leash over sixty years ago.

Edit: Just checked the etymology and it goes back to c1300 meaning 'thong for holding a hound

Skerries

garancafan wrote: »

:) There was life long before personal computers. I chose the term "manuscript" deliberately.

I know this is the oldies section but I didn't realise some of us used to use quill and parchment

Jellybaby1

Actually, some of us still do! I've been to Calligraphy classes!

Graces7

Hate it when they use the word "pro - ject" for any tiny bit of knitting etc. It is a pair of gloves not a great work! Was on the ravelry forum a while...