CVRT?

phelant · 01-02-2018 12:11pm #1

I saw this at NUIGalway the other day. Its the disc on the left that caught my eve and got me wondering . It shows CVRT on it and a quick google gave me Commercial Vehicle Roadworthiness Test (CVRT).

But as you can see from the image, there are 5 seats. Shouldn't this be an NCT disc or are there some sort of exemptions. Can you have a passenger commercial vehicle. I should add that this was a land rover discovery. It looked normal, not even blacked windows. I have removed personal info too from the discs.

Isambard · 01-02-2018 12:21pm

depends on the size of the load bay whether you can have a 5 seat commercial I think.

Eric Cartman · 01-02-2018 12:21pm

Thats a crewcab model, landrover were selling them directly up till this year. Perfectly legal on a lot of larger vehicles.

punisher5112 · 01-02-2018 9:09pm

It was an EU directive.

People had commercial 4x4 and were able to put seats in and others already had 5 or 7 seaters and would be able to keep it 5 seater once the boot space was divided by a cage or similar.

Ford kuga can have 4 seats centre seat needs to be removed.

phelant · 02-02-2018 12:14pm

Thanks for the replies. I must say it makes sense for anyone who would have kids to drop off to school/creche in the morning.

Isambard · 02-02-2018 12:16pm

phelant wrote: »

Thanks for the replies. I must say it makes sense for anyone who would have kids to drop off to school/creche in the morning.

erm, no. Commercial use only.

punisher5112 · 02-02-2018 12:46pm

phelant wrote: »

Thanks for the replies. I must say it makes sense for anyone who would have kids to drop off to school/creche in the morning.

It was grand a few years ago but you now must prove its for commercial use.

Still doesn't stop some.

I do see plenty of 3 seater transits with 6 on board or more and usually full of kids.

phelant · 03-02-2018 8:48am

Well this had child seats in the back!

OldMrBrennan83 · 03-02-2018 8:52am

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Isambard · 03-02-2018 9:53am

no idea,BIK is an unknown quantity to me, but to tax it commercial you have to declare it will be used for commercial purposes only. That always was the case many moons ago when I had a commercial but no-one took any notice of it. Always used mine for the school run but I knew then I wasn't supposed to.

R.O.R · 03-02-2018 10:05am

Patww79 wrote: »

So what exactly do you pay bik on a commercial for then? Genuine question.

You pay 5% BIK on a van if you have personal usage of it, and then it should be taxed privately by the letter of the law.

Those 5 seat commercials are subject to passenger car BIK rates as they are not vans.

03-02-2018 10:05am

Isambard wrote: »

erm, no. Commercial use only.

Good luck finding anyone would cares about that stupid and totally unenforced rule.

OldMrBrennan83 · 03-02-2018 10:14am

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endacl · 03-02-2018 10:18am

Tatiana Ambitious Lifeguard wrote: »

Good luck finding anyone would cares about that stupid and totally unenforced rule.

'Unenforceable', but has been enforced at checkpoints from time to time.

03-02-2018 10:34am

endacl wrote: »

'Unenforceable', but has been enforced at checkpoints from time to time.

I didn't say unenforceable (though very difficult to enforce unless you blatantly admit it), I said unenforced. I know an awful lot of people using commercial either partially or only for private/family use and never have I heard of a single person even nearly having a problem.

punisher5112 · 03-02-2018 10:35am

Patww79 wrote: »

Cheers. I must mention that in work, there's a few vehicles that would be cheaper tax on private.

It goes to cc rate if commercial...

AndrewJRenko · 03-02-2018 10:37am

Isambard wrote: »

no idea,BIK is an unknown quantity to me, but to tax it commercial you have to declare it will be used for commercial purposes only. That always was the case many moons ago when I had a commercial but no-one took any notice of it. Always used mine for the school run but I knew then I wasn't supposed to.

Would you be insured in that scenario - driving when 'not supposed to'?

OldMrBrennan83 · 03-02-2018 10:39am

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BillyBobBS · 03-02-2018 10:39am

The rule isn't enforced. You'd want to some cnut of a Gardai to enforce it. The vast majority of tradesmen i work with use their vans or 4x4's for personal use be it bringing the mountain bikes in the back, going shopping or collecting the kids from school.

03-02-2018 10:40am

AndrewJRenko wrote: »

Would you be insured in that scenario - driving when 'not supposed to'?

Yes, commercial policy's include private use. Never mind people using their own commercial look at how many company owned and branded vans people drive privately at weekends etc.

Isambard · 03-02-2018 12:09pm

Tatiana Ambitious Lifeguard wrote: »

Yes, commercial policy's include private use. Never mind people using their own commercial look at how many company owned and branded vans people drive privately at weekends etc.

That's true but look at how many people drink/drive or speed.... the number of people breaking the Law doesn't make it OK

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