New sewer connection to a private sewer

antiskeptic

I'm looking at a suburban property which has potential for one or two additional residential properties to be built on its land.

The existing property is located on a private road with perhaps 10 houses on it. The sewer servicing these houses is thus, a private sewer, running the length of the road and into the council drain on the main road. I've no idea as to it's condition or size.

Does one need permission from the neighbours to make a new connection to this sewer? Options strikes me as:

Run new connections directly into the sewer line running along the road

Run new connections into the existing connection on own land - perhaps upgrading the existing connection to suit the increase usage.

Anyone any experience in this?

Cheers.

Calahonda52

IFF its a private sewer, you will need consent, which generally will not be forthcoming, especially if it accommodates more houses near them: NIMBY

Metric Tensor

If it's a private sewer it's a private road too - and you will need consent to use this as well!

antiskeptic

Metric Tensor wrote: »

If it's a private sewer it's a private road too - and you will need consent to use this as well!

Hmmm. Never considered that.

If I were to buy the property on which two extra houses were to be constructed then I'd surely be able to use the road for access to my own property to do with as I pleased?

The issue then would be what happens when the other two properties are cleaved off (actually only one would use the private road, the other access a road to the rear). Perhaps a 999 year lease on the site would render them still my property and enjoying thus, rights of access to the road?

What about the idea of connecting the sewerage of the new houses on my land and utilizing the existing connection?




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Views on pumped sewage systems? There's a council sewer on the road behind the properties - but elevated from the site. One option is to pump the sewage up to the road.

antiskeptic

Calahonda52 wrote: »

IFF its a private sewer, you will need consent, which generally will not be forthcoming, especially if it accommodates more houses near them: NIMBY

A chat with the neighbours so. Neighbours to both sides would be selling a bit of their land to me to make up the space so no issues there. The others are another matter..

Negotiating hat on..

Metric Tensor

If things are correctly set up there should be a management company that own the road and you will need permission from the management company to use the road - which you won't get!

Also - just because you have a right of way over the road does not mean you can "share" that right of way with other people you deem appropriate.

I think you need to do a bit more research about what is required before you get your hopes too high. Any planning permission that is, at a minimum, dependent on getting 10 other parties to agree is dead in the water before it starts.

antiskeptic

Metric Tensor wrote: »

If things are correctly set up there should be a management company that own the road and you will need permission from the management company to use the road - which you won't get!

I'll check. I'd imagine not - some of the houses have been there 100 years with stuff being added higgeldy piggedy. One of the neighbours said they all chip in to maintain the road so I'd imagine it's more organic than formal

Also - just because you have a right of way over the road does not mean you can "share" that right of way with other people you deem appropriate.

I'll look into the legals. The extent of what's appropriate will probably have some legal definition.

I think you need to do a bit more research about what is required before you get your hopes too high. Any planning permission that is, at a minimum, dependent on getting 10 other parties to agree is dead in the water before it starts.

Don't worry. My hopes are at an appropriate level for the mountain to be scaled! Thanks for the comments made..

Gumbo

Also, even though you are making the connection to the private sewer, you have to demonstrate that the private system can take the increased discharge safely, and then discharge correctly to the public end.

Just went through this with Fingal. Engineering reports on the current system, and calculations indicating that it will operate within its max capacity after the connections were required.

Czhornet

antiskeptic wrote: »

Views on pumped sewage systems? There's a council sewer on the road behind the properties - but elevated from the site. One option is to pump the sewage up to the road.

Stay away from them, if you put it in its your responsibility, costly to run and costly if anything goes wrong (and they do, impellers getting blocked and all sorts of stuff will have to be pumped out (at your own cost) to be able to lift the pumps.) Getting lads in with confined space entry equipment doesn't come cheap. Go gravity if at all possible.