Hydraulic hose - best value?

larthehar

Everytime i burst a pipe on a machine the cost of replacing it seems to rise.. €50 for 2m of pipe and a fitting on each end is starting to drain me..

I have a few pipes on an old digger that i would like to replace, anybody have any suggestions on good places to buy? I don.t waiting as it isn.t urgent..

Thanks in advance.

enricoh

Try Nelson hydraulics, u can buy say 40m of hose in a roll and fittings. Iirc there is a fitting u can get that u can put in a vice and thread a ferrule into it. If not keep an eye out for a swager. Handy to have, saves an hour toing and froing

Davey9011

HyQ hoses in Gorey are good. They only have a 40 euro call out fee or go to them

Pod123

You must use the right reusable ferrule for the right hose.hydraulic was marked 2sn i.e a 2 wire hose.now its nearly all 2sc again its 2 wire but less rubber on the outside the c means compact.
There is also 4 wire hose for higher pressure.
If you take off a small bit of rubber on the outside and wire looks criss crossed its 2 wire if it goes all one way its 4 wire.
If buying a swager get a crimp chart to show you what to crimp the hose down to.important on small quarter hoses as over crimping will crack thr shell or close in the fitting reducing oil flow.
Buy your fitting and ferrule separate you have more choice e.g. to cut the ferrule and use the old fitting again not proper but will get you moving eg off the Road.

PMU

my hose repair place told me yesterday they are not allowed to repair a hose anymore .now they have to make a complete new hose. new EU safety regulation , theres even an official sign up on the wall

patsy_mccabe

We used to make up our own hoses in a company I worked for before. All Parker stuff. We cut and crimped all in house. It was all for industrial use. Often wearability is a trade off with the flexibility of the hose. The crimper we had was a very precise piece of kit. I doubt if a vise jig would get anywhere near as consistent.

We dealt with Redwood in Cork. They are agents for parker. Can't comment on price or value, but I know they deal with farmers.
http://www.redwoodpowertools.com/about.html

Here are their crimpers.
http://www.redwoodpowertools.com/Brouchure/Hydraulic/Crimping/4400UK%20-%20C%20-%20Equipment.pdf

Davey9011

Crimping onto a used hose is unlawful but you tell someone he he needs a 10m hose ran in a manitou say when only 1m is needed. Cost is x10 when he just wants to be up and running. Also depends who owns the machine-private or a firm. Crimpers have a hydraulic force up to 180 ton so would not put in a vice.

larthehar

enricoh wrote: »

Try Nelson hydraulics, u can buy say 40m of hose in a roll and fittings. Iirc there is a fitting u can get that u can put in a vice and thread a ferrule into it. If not keep an eye out for a swager. Handy to have, saves an hour toing and froing

We used to have these screw in fittings years ago, i thought they were obsolete! Must follow up nelsons so.

Thanks for all the other replies.

jmrc

as stated before repairing old hydraulic hoses is no longer allowed by EU law.
the screw in fittings are useful but not reliable and only come in some sizes and thread types. Also they are only suitable for some hoses.
most newer manufactured machines use newer designed hoses which have been developed for higher pressures than the old R2AT type hoses and are much more flexible and more able to withstand flexing.
I have often used Micro Hydraulics in Citywest... they supply a lot of the country wide farm shops so have a massive range of fittings and hose in stock. they have a trade counter, and the lads there are very obliging. Have a look at their website.
(Just for clarity, I have no affiliation with this company)

larthehar

jmrc wrote: »

as stated before repairing old hydraulic hoses is no longer allowed by EU law.
the screw in fittings are useful but not reliable and only come in some sizes and thread types. Also they are only suitable for some hoses.
most newer manufactured machines use newer designed hoses which have been developed for higher pressures than the old R2AT type hoses and are much more flexible and more able to withstand flexing.
I have often used Micro Hydraulics in Citywest... they supply a lot of the country wide farm shops so have a massive range of fittings and hose in stock. they have a trade counter, and the lads there are very obliging. Have a look at their website.
(Just for clarity, I have no affiliation with this company)

I don.t intend on using for repair, i have a digger that i wish to replace a few pipes on as preventative maintenance.. lads say wait til they burst but then you end up putting in 10/15L of oil each time which is another 25 quid.. will have a look at micro too..

Davey9011

Where are you situated County wise.

Waffletraktor

larthehar wrote: »

I don.t intend on using for repair, i have a digger that i wish to replace a few pipes on as preventative maintenance.. lads say wait til they burst but then you end up putting in 10/15L of oil each time which is another 25 quid.. will have a look at micro too..

Surely gainfords are the best in your area?

Czhornet

If you know what you want in advance try these, serious selection here, cheap too.

https://hydraulicmegastore.com/

Davey9011

Its ok buying in hose ends but still need to have a crimper to crimp the ends on. Correct dies and crimp setting. Diameter etc. Have had one blow off before. was under crimped i was told. I used hyq hoses. new to the game but was resonable price and has a really good set up. Based in Gorey Wexford. can go to him or he goes to you. google them

valtra2

Davey9011 wrote: »

Its ok buying in hose ends but still need to have a crimper to crimp the ends on. Correct dies and crimp setting. Diameter etc. Have had one blow off before. was under crimped i was told. I used hyq hoses. new to the game but was resonable price and has a really good set up. Based in Gorey Wexford. can go to him or he goes to you. google them

Would that be your business davey

Davey9011

no that stuff is not for me. I used them the other day. got talking about hoses and that, was impressed thats all

larthehar

Czhornet wrote: »

If you know what you want in advance try these, serious selection here, cheap too.

https://hydraulicmegastore.com/

They seem pretty reasonable, you can customise your own hose which is a gift! I might give it a go.. a lot cheaper than local lads anyways.. only for an old digger so not willing to spend big bucks but still as serious PITA when it bursts and you need it.

Czhornet

larthehar wrote: »

They seem pretty reasonable, you can customise your own hose which is a gift! I might give it a go.. a lot cheaper than local lads anyways.. only for an old digger so not willing to spend big bucks but still as serious PITA when it bursts and you need it.

I have used them before, great job. I needed small radius 90' bends and no one had them here or quoted me a small fortune to "get them in specially".
As I say, ideal if you know what you want and can get in advance in your own time