Are flamethrowers legal in Ireland?

CharlieZeroOne

Saw this, would like to buy one, unsure of the legality of it, any advice appreciated
Boring Company Flamethrower
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o68aR-K7fnU

Fred Swanson

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CharlieZeroOne

thanks for that. very informative.

GBX

CharlieZeroOne wrote: »

thanks for that. very informative.

It was an answer to your question.

Why would you think they would be legal or even get past customs if you did order one.

CharlieZeroOne

Because I have not seen or heard of legislation thats says otherwise.

That is why I am asking here.
Have you seen legislation regarding flamethrowers?

If not then kindly refrain from answering, same goes to the first poster.

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Charlie01 - pls be civil when posting on this forum

piplip87

Sure buy it for the craic, what's the worst that could happen ? I pretty sure the seller will accept returns in 10 years when you get out of the joy

emo72

We have those gas canisters that are sold in Aldi and Lidl that blow a flame for burning things. Not quite a flame thrower, but, do we really think there is an official in the civil service measuring the length of flames!

Samuel T. Cogley

Why would you even want one. You can pick up something similar to that for torching weeds in garden centres up the north.

emo72

Samuel T. Cogley wrote: »

Why would you even want one. You can pick up something similar to that for torching weeds in garden centres up the north.

Also here!

wexie

emo72 wrote: »

We have those gas canisters that are sold in Aldi and Lidl that blow a flame for burning things. Not quite a flame thrower, but, do we really think there is an official in the civil service measuring the length of flames!

The United States Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives (ATF) allows any flamethrower with a flame shorter than 10 feet, according to Musk.

......why.....whut.....well....I guess it's best not to try apply logic here.

https://www.standard.co.uk/news/world/why-is-elon-musk-selling-flamethrowers-everything-you-need-to-know-about-the-500-gadget-that-is-a3752456.html

Guaranteed refund in case it doesn't work on 'hordes of undead'

Samuel T. Cogley

http://www.irishstatutebook.ie/eli/1990/act/12/enacted/en/html

Sale ect could be dealt with under the above legislation, not sure if there is a ministerial order already in place. Production ect. also could be dealt with under that legislation on cursory glance. I'm sure GM228 will be along shortly :pac:

CharlieZeroOne

Thanks Samuel, that's useful, appreciate it.

sheesh

It could be described as a "weapon of offence"

“weapon of offence” means any article made or adapted for use for causing injury to or incapacitating a person, or intended by the person having it with him for such use.


(3) A person guilty of an offence under this section shall be liable—


(a) on summary conviction, to a fine not exceeding £1,000 or to imprisonment for a term not exceeding twelve months or to both, or


(b) on conviction on indictment, to a fine or to imprisonment for a term not exceeding five years or to both.

CharlieZeroOne

The above > looks like < its discussing objects actually used as weapons. I dont intend to use this as a weapon, it's a toy, and also its on my property, not outside supermacs on a saturday night.

Fred Swanson

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CharlieZeroOne

Do you know this as fact Fred, or is it a guess on your part?

Fred Swanson

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CharlieZeroOne

Okay, thats interesting.

GM228

Samuel T. Cogley wrote: »

http://www.irishstatutebook.ie/eli/1990/act/12/enacted/en/html

Sale ect could be dealt with under the above legislation, not sure if there is a ministerial order already in place. Production ect. also could be dealt with under that legislation on cursory glance. I'm sure GM228 will be along shortly :pac:

No ministerial order in place for a flamethrower, as such S12 would not be applicable.

sheesh wrote: »

It could be described as a "weapon of offence"

Unless you intend to use the flamethrower specifically for the purpose of causing injury I don't think it would fall under the category of "weapon of offence".

“weapon of offence” means any article made or adapted for use for causing injury to or incapacitating a person, or intended by the person having it with him for such use.

A flamethrower is not specifically made for the purpose highlighted, as such intent on using it for causing injury as opposed to simple possession is what would make such fall foul of the Firearms and Offensive Weapons Act 1990.

Now would we consider a flamethrower to be a device which emits a "noxious thing". I would think so meaning the Firearms Act 1925 (as amended) would be more appropriate:-

Firearms Act 1925 wrote:

1 “ firearm ” means —

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( e ) a prohibited weapon,

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“ prohibited weapon ” means and includes any weapon of whatever description designed for the discharge of any noxious liquid, noxious gas or other noxious thing, and also any ammunition (whether for any such weapon or any other weapon) which contains or is designed or adapted to contain any noxious liquid, noxious gas or other noxious thing

CharlieZeroOne

Okay well thats that then, I'm going no-where near, anything considered a firearm.

Appreciate all the replies, many thanks to all.