Is This The Audi e-Tron I've Been Hearing About In Naas ?

She was there plugged into the AC when I got there and 20 mins later still there, the , 2 people in the car , they didn't leave but I'd say they must have been there 30+ mins. Now I couldn't care less really but why, oh why would they waste so much time plugged in sitting in the car when they don't have to ?

Charging that tiny battery would be so cheap at home. 7 Kwh ? and what, maybe 5-6 usable ? ffs, why ? why not get a proper EV ?

E-tron would have been great 10 years ago and it's actually really sad that Audi have no EV.

Anyway is this the A3 I've heard about hogging the charger ? I didn't need to use the charger, haven't used that in so long.

She wasn't doing anything wrong of course and it's none of my business really what she does but I'm just puzzled why she would spend so much time waiting at a charger ?

Shefwedfan

Not sure why the need to post the car reg details?

Maybe they were getting up to some nookie?
Or they could of had a loaf of brennans bread, butter & Tayto and just couldn't drive any further till they had a lovely sambo
Maybe they had driven for 3-4 hours and needed a 30 min rest so said they would charge car at same time....kill 2 birds

It's a free system, let them bang away

Each to their own, but I still don't see why you need to put a specific picture up with reg details.

Patser

Shefwedfan wrote: »

Maybe they were getting up to some nookie?
Or they could of had a loaf of brennans bread, butter & Tayto and just couldn't drive any further till they had a lovely sambo
Maybe they had driven for 3-4 hours and needed a 30 min rest so said they would charge car at same time....kill 2 birds

It's a free system, let them bang away.

exaisle

Yeah..in fairness, blur the car reg details or delete the pics.

ELM327

Shefwedfan wrote: »

Not sure why the need to post the car reg details?

Maybe they were getting up to some nookie?
Or they could of had a loaf of brennans bread, butter & Tayto and just couldn't drive any further till they had a lovely sambo
Maybe they had driven for 3-4 hours and needed a 30 min rest so said they would charge car at same time....kill 2 birds

It's a free system, let them bang away

Each to their own, but I still don't see why you need to put a specific picture up with reg details.

I don't necessarily agree nor disgree with this post per se.
But legally reg details in a public place are fair game. Unless used for profit or for commercial gain (eg advertising)

Fiery mutant

Yes that them. They are local too, you will see them there plenty, plugged in, fully charged, and nowhere to be seen for hours.

exaisle

Deleted User wrote: »

E-tron would have been great 10 years ago and it's actually really sad that Audi have no EV.

https://www.autocar.co.uk/car-news/new-cars/audi-e-tron-new-pics-electric-suv-near-production-guise

Shefwedfan

ELM327 wrote: »

I don't necessarily agree nor disgree with this post per se.
But legally reg details in a public place are fair game. Unless used for profit or for commercial gain (eg advertising)

I know if it was my car I would not be happy.

They are using a public free system exactly as they are supposed to do. Not sure why they would expect pictures of their car and reg details plastered all over the web.....

ELM327

Would you be more " less happy " or less "less happy" than a Zoe driver who pulled up behind them to use the FCP on a long drive?

(The reg plate is not an issue.... if you're going to go strictly by the letter of the law, the audi is entitled to use the 43kW AC to draw 3kW for 2 hours, and also number plates in a public area are legally allowed to be published online)

Shefwedfan

exaisle wrote: »

https://www.autocar.co.uk/car-news/new-cars/audi-e-tron-new-pics-electric-suv-near-production-guise

Audi as part of VW group will benefit from the ID announcements.

Once ID is available then you will see all of the VW sectors released their own versions. So you will see a huge influx of electric cars.

Audi/VW/Seat/Skoda/Porsche etc will all release models based on the ID develpoment......

Matt Simis

Maybe like me they can't charge at home? Also isn't that a space beside them free?


No idea why they are in the car though, maybe people have been leaving notes and taking pictures and putting online and they wanted to catch them..?

ELM327

If they can't charge at home and want to run in EV mode then they bought the wrong car .
It has only a 7kWh battery and charges at 3kW. Meaning 2 hours of charging for what? 20-25km of range?

You could do that with one charge stop per week in an Ioniq.

Now.. if it was a slow charger and it fit in with other tasks (eg parked while shopping/at work etc) then fine but the ridiculousness is the use of a scarce resource capable of delivering 43kW , and using it for 2 hours to draw 3kW.

mickdw

They are sitting in the car and there is an empty charge space beside them so I don't see what the issue is.
Jess I was kinda interested in a phev myself but didn't realise that I would be treated like a second class citizen in terms of accessing charge points. First come first served imo.

80sDiesel

Creepy.

You weren't charging your car. No one was else was waiting to charge their car. Why would you even care why their were charging their battery? Surely you have better use of your free time.( And you wonder why you didn't get the moderator role)

ELM327

mickdw wrote: »

They are sitting in the car and there is an empty charge space beside them so I don't see what the issue is.
Jess I was kinda interested in a phev myself but didn't realise that I would be treated like a second class citizen in terms of accessing charge points. First come first served imo.

This is why I am in favour of charging for charging.

ELM327

80sDiesel wrote: »

Creepy.

You weren't charging your car. No one was else was waiting to charge their car. Why would you even care why their were charging their battery? Surely you have better use of your free time.

But he's a mad lad .. he needs something to be mad at :D:D

exaisle

exaisle wrote: »

https://www.autocar.co.uk/car-news/new-cars/audi-e-tron-new-pics-electric-suv-near-production-guise

But they have no electric cars available now, that's what I mean.

mickdw

And assuming that any charges introduced are based on power drawn, we will still have the argument that the slow charging phev shouldn't be blocking the charge point.

heroics

What exactly is your issue? They have a hybrid car that needs charging.
Why shouldn't they use the charger?
Just because you think a zoe driver is superior?
Is there now a hierarchy for who can use the chargers?

80sDiesel

ELM327 wrote: »

80sDiesel wrote: »

Creepy.

You weren't charging your car. No one was else was waiting to charge their car. Why would you even care why their were charging their battery? Surely you have better use of your free time.

But he's a mad lad .. he needs something to be mad at :D:D

80sDiesel

80sDiesel wrote: »

Creepy.

You weren't charging your car. No one was else was waiting to charge their car. Why would you even care why their were charging their battery? Surely you have better use of your free time.( And you wonder why you didn't get the moderator role)

What's creepy about it ? plenty of people have posted pics of cars at charge points why is it different because I'm posting it ?

I can do what I like with my spare time.

As for the Mod role, obviously I'm not suitable for such a terrific job. perhaps I can get a really good mod role in the future, that would make me so happy. Honestly, I long for the day I'm a Mod here on Boards.ie...........

I think people need to get off their high horse here and read my first post and stop being muppets.

Did I say I had a problem with it ?

First I asked was this the Audi I heard so much about at the Naas charger ,

Second, I was just curious as to why she would spend so much time there when the battery is so tiny and it would cost so little to charge it.

ELM327

mickdw wrote: »

And assuming that any charges introduced are based on power drawn, we will still have the argument that the slow charging phev shouldn't be blocking the charge point.

It will/should include some charging structure that makes it uneconomical. 30p/kWh in the UK for instance ...

Drawing 3kW from a resource capable of supplying 43kW (over 1000% more) power is not an efficient use of resource. Especially when there are multiple standard charging points within 5 minutes of that location.

heroics wrote: »

What exactly is your issue? They have a hybrid car that needs charging.
Why shouldn't they use the charger?
Just because you think a zoe driver is superior?
Is there now a hierarchy for who can use the chargers?

They have a hybrid car that they want to charge, because it's cheaper to do that than charge at home. It's not a need. It's blocking a valuable resource for 2 hours for people that actually need it. Not want, NEED.

I don't think a Zoe driver is superior... quite frankly as a leaf driver I am superior to all :pac::cool::cool:.

The hierarchy to use a charger has always been need vs want.

ELM327

Deleted User wrote: »

What's creepy about it ? plenty of people have posted pics of cars at charge points why is it different because I'm posting it ?

I can do what I like with my spare time.

As for the Mod role, obviously I'm not suitable for such a terrific job. perhaps I can get a really good mod role in the future, that would make me so happy. Honestly, I long for the day I'm a Mod here on Boards.ie...........

I wonder why you are not a moderator.

Oh... bold font. Let's check this.

Deleted User wrote: »

I think people need to get off their high horse here and read my first post and stop being muppets.

Did I say I had a problem with it ?

First I asked was this the Audi I heard so much about at the Naas charger ,

Second, I was just curious as to why she would spend so much time there when the battery is so tiny and it would cost so little to charge it.

I've highlighted the parts I'd have issue with if you were a moderator.
Now I'm relatively new here compared to the rest of ye but I'd expect a more unbiased and less argumentative response from a mod.

To be honest without looking at the front of the forum I can't tell you who the mod(s) is/are as they aren't arguing all the time. Speaks volumes.


PS: I agree with you about the issue at hand, the ridiculous (ab) use of an FCP by a compliance car but just had to post this comment.

Well I couldn't care less she is there as long as she moved when a Zoe pulled up.

Bit puzzled though why she thinks her time is of no other value than saving a euro's worth of day time electricity or less. Her problem and that's fine.

80sDiesel

Deleted User wrote: »

As for the Mod role, obviously I'm not suitable for such a terrific job. perhaps I can get a really good mod role in the future, that would make me so happy. Honestly, I long for the day I'm a Mod here on Boards.ie...........

They might create a special 'Former Leaf Owners turned Fanatic I3Rex owners' sub-forum all for yourself.

mickdw

Does the spare space adjacent not nullify these argument as nobody is deprived.

ELM327

mickdw wrote: »

Does the spare space adjacent not nullify these argument as nobody is deprived.

Not if you are driving a fast-AC43 car like a Zoe.

Or if the charger (like some DBT units) can only charge one car at a time.

exaisle

exaisle wrote: »

Yeah..in fairness, blur the car reg details or delete the pics.

Eah, why ?

80sDiesel

80sDiesel wrote: »

They might create a special 'Former Leaf Owners turned Fanatic I3Rex owners' sub-forum all for yourself.

Ah, It's becoming clear now, someone has a problem because I drive an i3......

thierry14

Network is free to us all

You should be careful Mad_Lad and take down the pics

This lady could have a big husband or brother

ELM327

ELM327 wrote: »

I wonder why you are not a moderator.


I've highlighted the parts I'd have issue with if you were a moderator.

If I were a Mod I bet you wouldn't be speaking to me like that , you'd be banned !

thierry14

thierry14 wrote: »

Network is free to us all

You should be careful Mad_Lad and take down the pics

This lady could have a big husband or brother

Careful for what ? as I said plenty of pics have been posted here of cars at charge points with reg displayed.

Public place.

If someone took a pic of my Rex charging and posted here that they had some issue with a Rex using the charge point, there's pretty much nothing I could do about it, I'd like to feel I could debate with them as to why they might have a problem with it.

As I said I've absolutely no issue with her using the charge point but asked the question was this the car that I heard so much about and just about why she'd waste her time.

None of my business I know, I never suggested it was nor have I suggest she's doing anything wrong.

tossy

Isn't that the problem with all electrocutafied cars... waiting. I pull up to the petrol or diesel pump and fill up with the finest desert honey and i'm good to go within 5 mins for 100's of miles.

Happy Now ?

tossy

tossy wrote: »

Isn't that the problem with all electrocutafied cars... waiting. I pull up to the petrol or diesel pump and fill up with the finest desert honey and i'm good to go within 5 mins for 100's of miles.

Depends on your driving needs, if you drive less than what, 200-250 kms a day in a 40 Kwh Renault Zoe or 180-200 Kms odd in an Ioniq, 170-180 Kms in an I3 33 Kwh, 160 in a 30 Kwh Leaf, 90-110 Kms in a 24 Kwh Leaf ( I've done 140 in summer )unlimited in a i3 Rex then no it's not a problem.

The Ioniq can cover 300 Kms pretty easy in a day with maybe 30 min charge.

i3 rex can cover 170-180 on electric and keep going as long as you got petrol in it's 8 litre tank.

40 Kwh leaf coming that will do 220-260 Kms possibly more with slower driving.

2019 will see 300 odd kms and hopefully faster charging cars, but the infrastructure way behind to support faster charging cars unless you drive a model S and happen to drive along the fast charger routes.

biko

Cool the jets please.

ELM327

Deleted User wrote: »

If I were a Mod I bet you wouldn't be speaking to me like that , you'd be banned !

I'm not a mod... nor do I intend to be!! I'm perfectly happy to post away thanks. PS If you're arguing with me and I'm the only one I can see agreeing with you...

Deleted User wrote: »

Careful for what ? as I said plenty of pics have been posted here of cars at charge points with reg displayed.

Public place.

If someone took a pic of my Rex charging and posted here that they had some issue with a Rex using the charge point, there's pretty much nothing I could do about it, I'd like to feel I could debate with them as to why they might have a problem with it.

As I said I've absolutely no issue with her using the charge point but asked the question was this the car that I heard so much about and just about why she'd waste her time.

None of my business I know, I never suggested it was nor have I suggest she's doing anything wrong.

Public place. Pity you caved tbh.

stesaurus

Beggars belief why anyone would want to do this? 2 hours of their life wasted to get €0.50 of free electricity(€1 if they don't charge at night) or to save a massive €2.50 on petrol.

ELM327

tossy wrote: »

Isn't that the problem with all electrocutafied cars... waiting. I pull up to the petrol or diesel pump and fill up with the finest desert honey and i'm good to go within 5 mins for 100's of miles.

True, but that approach isn't sustainable for the planet long term.
You can do that today, but who's to say in 7-10-15 years if that's going to be (a) not prohibitively expensive or (b) even feasible at all.

goz83

What's with all the hostility people? Many of us have taken a snap of someone abusing the public charging system. An entitlement to use a service does not mean that people using it aren't also abusing it.

I'm going to guess that the owner of the Audi doesn't know that they can charge just as quickly at a SCP. If the owner does realise this, then imo, the owner is a tool.

And what a complete waste of ones time to plug in for single digit kWh. I only use a FCP if I need one. My time is worth more than the euro saved.

OldMrBrennan83

This post has been deleted.

ELM327

ELM327 wrote: »

I'm not a mod... nor do I intend to be!! I'm perfectly happy to post away thanks. PS If you're arguing with me and I'm the only one I can see agreeing with you...

Calm down I'm only having the Craic with you !

goz83

Patww79 wrote: »

This post has been deleted.

And certainly not as expensive

OldMrBrennan83

This post has been deleted.

KCross

stesaurus wrote: »

Beggars belief why anyone would want to do this? 2 hours of their life wasted to get €0.50 of free electricity(€1 if they don't charge at night) or to save a massive €2.50 on petrol.

My bet is they went into the shop for a coffee and a roll while they were waiting and paid €10 for that to save the 50c in electricity at home!

If, as people say, this is a local I'd say they have no idea about kW's and kWh's and what it costs. They see a gauge that shows the car needs charging and a charger that is free and they are using it. Etiquette or appreciating the needs of other EV's is just not on their radar. Its more an education thing than a selfish thing, imo.

Charging for charging will educate people very quick but, of course, thats a double edged sword!

mordeith

Patww79 wrote: »

I haven't paid for fuel in years so I never think of it but we were just discussing handiness and not any of the other factors, including cost.

Home chargers mean you don't ever need to pull into a petrol station. That's very handy.

OldMrBrennan83

This post has been deleted.

stesaurus

goz83 wrote: »

What's with all the hostility people? Many of us have taken a snap of someone abusing the public charging system. An entitlement to use a service does not mean that people using it aren't also abusing it.

I'm going to guess that the owner of the Audi doesn't know that they can charge just as quickly at a SCP. If the owner does realise this, then imo, the owner is a tool.

And what a complete waste of ones time to plug in for single digit kWh. I only use a FCP if I need one. My time is worth more than the euro saved.

I think a lot of PHEVs don't actually come with a cable. So using the SCPs you'd need to purchase a cable €200+. FCPs on the other hand have a nice handy tethered connection. I can see the appeal in that regard but surely after 15mins it dawns on them that this is just not worth their while, timewise or financially.
PHEV owners really are a leech

Shefwedfan

goz83 wrote: »

What's with all the hostility people? Many of us have taken a snap of someone abusing the public charging system. An entitlement to use a service does not mean that people using it aren't also abusing it.

I'm going to guess that the owner of the Audi doesn't know that they can charge just as quickly at a SCP. If the owner does realise this, then imo, the owner is a tool.

And what a complete waste of ones time to plug in for single digit kWh. I only use a FCP if I need one. My time is worth more than the euro saved.

But they are not abusing it. Nobody else is waiting. They are parked correctly etc etc.....

They are using the system exactly as it has been designed, it is a flawed design but they are using it correctly.

The only reason this is on a thread is because it is an Audi e-Tron. No other reason. I don't have issue with pointing out a rare car, I just dont see why their number plate needs to be put on web

mordeith

Patww79 wrote: »

This post has been deleted.

I can never understand that argument. Every journey needs to be planned. You have a near empty tank when you set for home. You need to get to a petrol station to fill up. You start running low on juice on a trip somewhere you need to find a petrol station.
In an EV you can leave your house fully charged. If you are running low on electricity you find an FCP. The issue is really with the charging infrastructure, not EVs themselves.